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[R&S] Shinhan Bank Proleague 10-11 - Page 12

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vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
December 14 2010 06:15 GMT
#221
what matches are going to be on today?
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
December 14 2010 06:34 GMT
#222
On December 14 2010 15:15 vishrut wrote:
what matches are going to be on today?

The TL schedule is up to date (and accurate). In the future though, you could check KeSPA's scheudle directly.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
December 14 2010 09:49 GMT
#223
On December 14 2010 15:34 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:15 vishrut wrote:
what matches are going to be on today?

The TL schedule is up to date (and accurate). In the future though, you could check KeSPA's scheudle directly.

Is KeSPA's schedule always correct when they change the teams?
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
December 14 2010 11:14 GMT
#224
On December 14 2010 18:49 vishrut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2010 15:34 moopie wrote:
On December 14 2010 15:15 vishrut wrote:
what matches are going to be on today?

The TL schedule is up to date (and accurate). In the future though, you could check KeSPA's scheudle directly.

Is KeSPA's schedule always correct when they change the teams?

KeSPA is the one that makes the schedule, so yes, their calendar is correct.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
December 15 2010 06:55 GMT
#225
Can anyone confirm whether or not line-ups are determined before hand? I've noticed today in the KT vs SKT1, after every match when the teams do their huddle. One Kespa ref walks over to each huddle. The coaches seems to give a piece of paper to the ref and the two refs meet in the middle of the stage, and return to the coaches giving them a piece of paper back. I'm guessing this is is their next player writen on a piece of paper, and the coaches are given a few minutes to talk over the strat with their already designated player.

I've been wondering about this because a lot of people have been saying that line-ups are still predetermined and that Kespa just withholds them until the actual match. Like the other day, reading the LR for the SKT1 vs Hite match, all the SKT1 fans were calling Coach Park a troll for sending By.Sun before Bisu and Best. But I'm pretty sure he had his reasons for sending him, and that he wasn't trolling with a predetermined line-up.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 08:57:06
December 15 2010 08:56 GMT
#226
On December 15 2010 15:55 Jackle wrote:
Can anyone confirm whether or not line-ups are determined before hand? I've noticed today in the KT vs SKT1, after every match when the teams do their huddle. One Kespa ref walks over to each huddle. The coaches seems to give a piece of paper to the ref and the two refs meet in the middle of the stage, and return to the coaches giving them a piece of paper back. I'm guessing this is is their next player writen on a piece of paper, and the coaches are given a few minutes to talk over the strat with their already designated player.

I've been wondering about this because a lot of people have been saying that line-ups are still predetermined and that Kespa just withholds them until the actual match. Like the other day, reading the LR for the SKT1 vs Hite match, all the SKT1 fans were calling Coach Park a troll for sending By.Sun before Bisu and Best. But I'm pretty sure he had his reasons for sending him, and that he wasn't trolling with a predetermined line-up.

On December 15 2010 07:40 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 00:41 MisteR wrote:
On December 14 2010 22:40 Fenrax wrote:
Afaik players are chosen before the series starts.


Excuse me for asking, but this has been bugging me for a while. How do you know? Because, afaik, there has been no definite confirmation either way. Rather, the fact that the coaches send in little notes before every game seems to imply that they chose during the series. But like I said, I have yet to see anyone post proof for any theory.


i think generally coaches plan out their lineups beforehand (it's better to have a player practice on 1 map for a while then all maps for a little bit), but they are allowed to send whoever they want to right before the match starts. i have no idea how that rumor started that all the lineups are exactly like it was before but they just dont publish them, but it's wrong. multiple player interviews (saying that they hadnt practiced on the map or werent expecting player X to show up) have confirmed it (as well as how it was described when the change was announced ffs).


I've been saying the same thing as Ideas for some time but many still think the line-up cannot be changed before the start of each game. Simply not true.

Anyway, this season is really too close to call. SKT had the best performance round 1, Hite seems to be having a great round 2 but who knows what will happen in Winner's League.

영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 07:52:33
December 16 2010 07:52 GMT
#227
On December 09 2010 15:16 Radio.active wrote:
so... Ace is now fifth this round... rolster is now last. I think the SC world has broke.


On December 11 2010 05:54 RoosterSamurai wrote:
I'm impressed by Woongjin Stars this season.


On December 11 2010 06:22 slappy wrote:
the gap between SKT and the rest is growing... woonjin can still take em down though..

KT in last = lol

basically anyone below MBC has a chance to make it to the post season. I would love to see ACE or OZ make it through!


This proleague season is ridiculous. If savior, etc. didn't just get owned for match fixing, I'd swear there's some going on
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
December 16 2010 09:19 GMT
#228
The players have to play on xmas?

Looks like they don't even get the weekend off.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 18 2010 17:48 GMT
#229
Whoa, SKT really has to step it up. They have a +8 compared to hite's +5 series differential now...
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2173 Posts
December 23 2010 07:53 GMT
#230
On December 19 2010 02:48 Lightwip wrote:
Whoa, SKT really has to step it up. They have a +8 compared to hite's +5 series differential now...

SK is definitely struggling at the moment, but what on earth happened to Stars?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
December 23 2010 09:07 GMT
#231
Khan has a shot at post season. I can go to sleep happy :D
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icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 23:20:41
December 24 2010 23:18 GMT
#232
I have question concerning the league format...

Afaik, it's 6 rounds set up like this:
Round1: 2 weeks with 9 matches for each team
Round2: 5 weeks with 9 matches for each team (round 1 would seem more stressful to me!)
Round3/4: Winners league... All 10 team plays, or just the best 3/6?
Round5/6: didnt we just play the winners league?
Postseason: ... ehm? what's this?
Grand finals: Winners of 'winners league' face somebody?

I'm kinda confused... I found this thread, but it didnt really explain the format of the rounds (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160639&currentpage=All)



can somebody explain?
He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past. BUFFER INTO GG
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9819 Posts
December 24 2010 23:46 GMT
#233
On December 25 2010 08:18 icclown wrote:
I have question concerning the league format...

Afaik, it's 6 rounds set up like this:
Round1: 2 weeks with 9 matches for each team
Round2: 5 weeks with 9 matches for each team (round 1 would seem more stressful to me!)
Round3/4: Winners league... All 10 team plays, or just the best 3/6?
Round5/6: didnt we just play the winners league?
Postseason: ... ehm? what's this?
Grand finals: Winners of 'winners league' face somebody?

I'm kinda confused... I found this thread, but it didnt really explain the format of the rounds (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160639&currentpage=All)



can somebody explain?

Winner's league is just a weird name for proleague rounds 3/4. They don't determine the actual winners of proleague. It's named winner's league because the format is different. It's king of the hill format so one player can play all four sets needed to win. Depth matters much less in these formats.

Postseason is the upper half of teams fighting to get to face the rank 1 team in the Grand Finals.
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icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
December 24 2010 23:49 GMT
#234
ty <3 so winners league is where they make the "ALL KILL!"s :D

so, the rank1 team will not be playing the postseason?
is there a playoff? elimination round or similar?
He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past. BUFFER INTO GG
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 23:58:47
December 24 2010 23:55 GMT
#235
On December 25 2010 08:18 icclown wrote:
I have question concerning the league format...

Afaik, it's 6 rounds set up like this:
Round1: 2 weeks with 9 matches for each team
Round2: 5 weeks with 9 matches for each team (round 1 would seem more stressful to me!)
Round3/4: Winners league... All 10 team plays, or just the best 3/6?
Round5/6: didnt we just play the winners league?
Postseason: ... ehm? what's this?
Grand finals: Winners of 'winners league' face somebody?

I'm kinda confused... I found this thread, but it didnt really explain the format of the rounds (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160639&currentpage=All)



can somebody explain?

Winner's League is part of the regular season and possibly also its own thing as a mini competition with its own winner (which is decided with a playoff from the 2 winner's league rounds).
The Winner's League rounds count towards the regular season, and are BO7 all-kill format (http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Allkill_Format)
The WL results get added to all the results like R1 and R2 get added together.
R5 and 6 are like R1 and 2 and everything gets added together for the final results, which then comes to play in the Grand Final.
Postseason is probably going to be something like the STX Masters Cup where the teams play against each other for another trophy (last time IIRC it was bottom plays second bottom, winner plays third bottom etc until the final team left plays STX because they sponsored it, and winner of STX vs other team wins the competition).
That's a secondary competition, not the main Proleague playoffs, which are decided by the Proleague Rounds 1-6 results all combined.

All it means is more SCBW.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9819 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 23:58:24
December 24 2010 23:57 GMT
#236
Winner's league is indeed where the epic all-kills and reverse all-kills happen.

Rank 1 team goes straight to the playoffs. The format last season was this, may change with team reduction though:
A: Rank 6 vs Rank 3
B: Rank 5 vs Rank 4
C: Winner of A vs Winner of B
D: Winner of C vs Rank 2
Grand Finals: Winner of D vs Rank 1
boomer hands
icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
December 25 2010 00:01 GMT
#237
On December 25 2010 08:46 seRapH wrote:
Postseason is the upper half of teams fighting to get to face the rank 1 team in the Grand Finals.



So this is incorrect?

It means more SCBW? ----> WHOOOO!!!!


ty =)
He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past. BUFFER INTO GG
icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
December 25 2010 00:12 GMT
#238
... reaaaally hoping for FBH to make a triumphant allkilling return in WL! :D
He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past. BUFFER INTO GG
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 26 2010 00:12 GMT
#239
this is what i like to see, hite tied for first place!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 29 2010 02:21 GMT
#240
I've been tracking PL games this season, and I went to the extent now of pulling out team matchup records. (I'll be updating my thread at the end of the round over the New Year's weekend.) But here's a spoiler/tidbit/preview:

Guess: Which team/race matches up best, statistically, against Terran this year?
+ Show Spoiler [Answer] +
If you guessed "ACE Zergs", you just won the jackpot. If you didn't guess right, I'm really not surprised. SKT Protoss come in... fifth. Samsung P? 14th.

Even more fun, ACE Terran is the #2 unit against Protoss. ACE pretty much universally sucks against Zerg, but I'm really curious how ACE manages to reverse the general imbalances.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
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