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On August 17 2010 13:03 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 12:59 trulla wrote:
what u guys think kwanro did wrong to lose this match?
He played pretty good, good eco and sairs + +1 zealots didn't do much damage...
His attack on Kal's 3rd wasn't succesful but i don't see what else he could've done to win the match. uh.. no he played very badly. Its clear his mechanical skills are just really really bad and it basically lost the game for him. for one thing, that first zealot rush shouldn't have killed that many drones if he was competent enough to deal with it, and then he dealt with harassment pretty badly in general. Didn't help that he went Mutas vs mass sairs, and his attack at Kal's third was sooo bad, he even left a group of hydra back just sitting around. No scourge to snipe the obs, what the fuck are the ovies for then? Also he failed to defend his fourth gas, so it died. Also, some horrendous macro. His money peaked at like 1.1k, and then his drones weren't mining for like a minute or so because he's just bad, so it went back to normal. He should've just gone 3 Hatch Hydra, he would've won easily. Did you see how that pylon was out in front, just waiting to get sniped by Hydralisks that wouldn't get hit by cannon fire? Ugh...
Well Kwanro is actually pretty good but he played this game like shit. He sees the mass sairs and instead of immediately pumping hydras he continues to pump more scourge/muta ->delays overlord speed->and loses any kind of chance to punish Kal for a long time.
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Fantasy <3
honestly, he has some of the most fun TvZ to watch
also his opponent is zero, so i expect an entertaining series =)
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On August 17 2010 12:57 teamsolid wrote:
Kwanro mass pumping lings in desperation... but sadly he forgot to tech hive and get upgrades on them.....
Kwanro's version of Starcraft is rigged. There is no "Evolve to Hive" option when you click on a Lair.
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I love you Fantasy!!!
gogo
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On August 17 2010 13:08 konadora wrote:
FANTASY FUCK YEAHHHHHHHH
^_^
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Yes! White guy with sweet sunglasses removal on cam. +50 cool points. I swear I heard "Ooooohs".
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Yeah Goojila! Your non-vJaedong-or-Effort vZ hasn't failed me yet.
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On August 17 2010 13:08 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 13:03 ArvickHero wrote:On August 17 2010 12:59 trulla wrote:
what u guys think kwanro did wrong to lose this match?
He played pretty good, good eco and sairs + +1 zealots didn't do much damage...
His attack on Kal's 3rd wasn't succesful but i don't see what else he could've done to win the match. uh.. no he played very badly. Its clear his mechanical skills are just really really bad and it basically lost the game for him. for one thing, that first zealot rush shouldn't have killed that many drones if he was competent enough to deal with it, and then he dealt with harassment pretty badly in general. Didn't help that he went Mutas vs mass sairs, and his attack at Kal's third was sooo bad, he even left a group of hydra back just sitting around. No scourge to snipe the obs, what the fuck are the ovies for then? Also he failed to defend his fourth gas, so it died. Also, some horrendous macro. His money peaked at like 1.1k, and then his drones weren't mining for like a minute or so because he's just bad, so it went back to normal. He should've just gone 3 Hatch Hydra, he would've won easily. Did you see how that pylon was out in front, just waiting to get sniped by Hydralisks that wouldn't get hit by cannon fire? Ugh... Well Kwanro is actually pretty good but he played this game like shit. He sees the mass sairs and instead of immediately pumping hydras he continues to pump more scourge/muta ->delays overlord speed->and loses any kind of chance to punish Kal for a long time.
I'm thinking the bigger problem is how horrible his mechanics seem to be. 1.1 mineral peak, pulling drones and forgetting to put them back on mining for at least a minute, bad attack coordination, and some serious multitask problems.
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konadora
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On August 17 2010 13:11 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 12:57 teamsolid wrote:
Kwanro mass pumping lings in desperation... but sadly he forgot to tech hive and get upgrades on them..... Kwanro's version of Starcraft is rigged. There is no "Evolve to Hive" option when you click on a Lair.
There was version of Gaia that wouldn't let you get siege tanks... lol.... so maybe they rigged it so it could be more Protoss favored =P
2 hatch muta from Zero.... he really believes in his muta micro =D
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On August 17 2010 13:15 Shinshady wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 13:11 endy wrote:On August 17 2010 12:57 teamsolid wrote:
Kwanro mass pumping lings in desperation... but sadly he forgot to tech hive and get upgrades on them..... Kwanro's version of Starcraft is rigged. There is no "Evolve to Hive" option when you click on a Lair. There was version of Gaia that wouldn't let you get siege tanks... lol.... so maybe they rigged it so it could be more Protoss favored =P 2 hatch muta from Zero.... he really believes in his muta micro =D
Or really doesn't believe in fantasy's mnm
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fantasy is in trouble, should be mech'ing his bio is rubbish
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hmm fantasy's turret position is a bit different than the standard on this map...maybe it's more efficient?
ehh, i doubt it, because the area behind fantasy's nat is so abusable right now =\
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On August 17 2010 13:18 Count9 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 13:15 Shinshady wrote:On August 17 2010 13:11 endy wrote:On August 17 2010 12:57 teamsolid wrote:
Kwanro mass pumping lings in desperation... but sadly he forgot to tech hive and get upgrades on them..... Kwanro's version of Starcraft is rigged. There is no "Evolve to Hive" option when you click on a Lair. There was version of Gaia that wouldn't let you get siege tanks... lol.... so maybe they rigged it so it could be more Protoss favored =P 2 hatch muta from Zero.... he really believes in his muta micro =D Or really doesn't believe in fantasy's mnm
I wouldn't either lol
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Lol, zero abusing fact that fantasy is terrible with mnm by taking bott left as third.
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awesome queens nest placement, good thinking. Fantasy bio control is still the worst part of his play
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On August 17 2010 13:19 blahman3344 wrote:
hmm fantasy's turret position is a bit different than the standard on this map...maybe it's more efficient?
ehh, i doubt it, because the area behind fantasy's nat is so abusable right now =\
Actually Zero tried to abuse it and he found out that the two groups of turrets are actually close enough to overlap in range at the center of that gap behind the nap lol
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double gas -> faster hive...this could get very interesting =0
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EPT
