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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 11 2010 09:54 GMT
#201
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
August 11 2010 09:54 GMT
#202
On August 11 2010 18:52 Ciryandor wrote:
Not a good game, build order loss for Bisu flat out; too much sairs, not enough ground for Hydra bust.
How is that a build order loss, when they had scourage/sairs scouting each others base? Bisu knew it was 5 hatch hydra, plus it is like the most standard zvp build ever.
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 09:55:39
August 11 2010 09:54 GMT
#203
On August 11 2010 18:53 JohnColtrane wrote:
so if action wins, leta and action go through? and if leta wins, its a 3way tie?


Yes, if Leta wins, he forces a three way tie breaker between Effort, Bisu, and Action.

Though he has no reason to actually win on Dreamliner unless he really wants to force a tiebreaker, likes Effort/Bisu, or/and dislikes Action.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
August 11 2010 09:54 GMT
#204
On August 11 2010 18:50 J1.au wrote:
A hydra bust ending a PvZ, who would've thought?

This. Lame and disappointing regardless of which player you were pulling for. I was hoping for something epic.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 09:56:12
August 11 2010 09:54 GMT
#205
On August 11 2010 18:50 Loffeman wrote:
Bisu saw the hydras= should have gone for reaver before shuttle?

He really should have. Maybe he wanted a storm drop before the reaver play, but was cut short.
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 09:55:50
August 11 2010 09:54 GMT
#206
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


ye it wasnt a proper game and one shouldnt read much into this but maybe you'll admit that effort has more than 0% of beating bisu T_T

Was hoping for a better game, although with the early advantage bisu had I was happy that effort ended it quickly
beep boop
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 09:56:07
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#207
Bisu missed his timming, had bad building placement as well.. GG.

edit: EffOrt is fav vs Bisu :/ don't know why people find this result surprising.
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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#208
Obviously it was shuttle first because the robo bay was still building. But I do wonder if Bisu had spent that 200 gold on an extra cannon earlier if he would've lived.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#209
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...

yea, bullshit zerg players like effort and shine should win more often cause they can 5 hatch hydra
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#210
On August 11 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:52 Ciryandor wrote:
Not a good game, build order loss for Bisu flat out; too much sairs, not enough ground for Hydra bust.
How is that a build order loss, when they had scourage/sairs scouting each others base? Bisu knew it was 5 hatch hydra, plus it is like the most standard zvp build ever.


no thats too much logic. Bisu fanbois wanted effort, after scouting the dual stargate +1 core ups to go 3 hatch muta and get wiped.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 09:58:58
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#211
I love the choice of build in that game from (Z)EffOrt. Everyone knew we'd see sair-heavy play on Flight-Dreamliner from (P)Bisu, and extremely likely either dts or reavers to make up for it. EffOrt completely avoided the issue by immediately getting overlord speed, and meanwhile he prepared a timing attack that would take advantage of how little units Bisu had.

No epic game, but I'm happy with the result. That was just smart play. And EffOrt is easily on even terms with Bisu, if not the favorite, and I'd be saying that even if he lost.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#212
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...



Actually, Bisu entered his slump because he played too safe and passive.
So close, and yet so far
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#213
Protoss doing so poorly. None in the MSL RO8 and here it takes a group with 3 P for them to actually get to RO8 most likely
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Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
August 11 2010 09:55 GMT
#214
On August 11 2010 18:54 LetMeShine wrote:
Yes, if Leta wins, he forced a three way tie breaker between Effort, Bisu, and Action.

Though he has no reason to actually win on Dreamliner unless he really wants to force a tiebreaker, likes Effort/Bisu, or/and dislikes Action.


i think he will decide in his own situation. i mean in case of the next opponent.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 11 2010 09:56 GMT
#215
On August 11 2010 18:55 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...

yea, bullshit zerg players like effort and shine should win more often cause they can 5 hatch hydra


keep fighting scout, youll get your badge soon
HEY MEYT
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 11 2010 09:56 GMT
#216
On August 11 2010 18:53 SkytoM wrote:
why shuttle first is a really good question, with reaver that break would have been no problem..

may as well make shuttle first while you are waiting for robotics support bay to finish...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
August 11 2010 09:56 GMT
#217
Why bisu why...
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zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
August 11 2010 09:56 GMT
#218
effort apm 547 eapm 392?? o_O
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 11 2010 09:56 GMT
#219
On August 11 2010 18:55 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 18:54 raga4ka wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:51 disciple wrote:
On August 11 2010 18:50 IntoTheWow wrote:
Superior ZvP.

give me a fucking break


Why ? Bisu always plays greedy and risky . This should happen more often ...

yea, bullshit zerg players like effort and shine should win more often cause they can 5 hatch hydra


that wasnt a 5 hatch hydra build
beep boop
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
August 11 2010 09:56 GMT
#220
On August 11 2010 18:53 SkytoM wrote:
why shuttle first is a really good question, with reaver that break would have been no problem..

he wanted to harass faster obviously. shuttle you can have 1/2-2/3 finished by the time support bay is done if you started support bay immediately after robo. going shuttle first delays reaver by maybe 20 seconds but doing the opposite delays shuttle by around a minute.
Hindsight being 20/20 we can criticize his decision, but every strat has pros and cons

and scratch everything, Bisu either forgot to build his reaver or was pylon blocked =.=
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