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Bigfile MSL Survivor Tournament 2010 Group 4
Game 1:


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Map Set:
Game 1 and 2: Fighting Spirit
Winners and Losers Game: Match Point
Final Game: Triathlon
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
![]() banner by Noxide Bigfile MSL Survivor Tournament 2010 Group 4 Game 1: ![]() ![]() Game 2: ![]() ![]() Map Set: Game 1 and 2: Fighting Spirit Winners and Losers Game: Match Point Final Game: Triathlon ![]() + Show Spoiler + ![]() + Show Spoiler + How to watch: | ||
BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Kinda. No big star here. But all four players are reputable. | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
I actually expect him to get out of this group. | ||
Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
Lomo 2-1 Stats 1-2 RoRo 0-2 | ||
SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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RandomAbuse
187 Posts
![]() Incoming + Other random person. Edit: Lol should really get a new version of that. | ||
Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Especially if Roro emerges from the losers match. I think I can say... something along these lines in terms of getting out of the group. Stats 30% Kwanro 30% Roro 20% Lomo 10% | ||
thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
On June 05 2010 16:59 thenexusp wrote: Shouldn't you double those percentages, since two leave the group OMG. Thank you. Seriously I spent like 5 minutes before I was posting thinking "wow wtf this doesn't make sense" lmao. Thanks! Stats 60% Kwanro 60% Roro 40% Kwanro 20% | ||
Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
GUESS I SHOULD HAVE WORKED ON MY + Show Spoiler + STATS LOLOLOL | ||
Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
but especially kwanro | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
that overlord will not die. | ||
Garnet
Vietnam9018 Posts
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Anomarad
Canada565 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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GTR
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mkchoi0801
Canada125 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:02 Vasoline73 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 16:59 thenexusp wrote: Shouldn't you double those percentages, since two leave the group OMG. Thank you. Seriously I spent like 5 minutes before I was posting thinking "wow wtf this doesn't make sense" lmao. Thanks! Stats 60% Kwanro 60% Roro 40% Kwanro 20% so Kwanro has 80% to go throught. awesomeeee | ||
d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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mkchoi0801
Canada125 Posts
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GTR
51446 Posts
typical | ||
prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
How? nobody knows | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
No surprise here. | ||
Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:05 Vivi57 wrote: kwanro stats FIGHTING but especially kwanro Couldnt have said it better myself. | ||
RandomAbuse
187 Posts
RorO vs Stats Map Set Game 1 and 2: Fighting Spirit Winners and Losers Game: Match Point Final Game: Triathlon Running! (started: 16 minutes ago ) Indeed nobody knows. | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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bearbuddy
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:13 darktreb wrote: Gotta love kwanro!Kwanro owns so hard. Anyone could have predicted how that game would go yet he still won. It's incredible. | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Game 2: Fighting Spirit ![]() ![]() | ||
Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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garista
Germany165 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:26 johanes wrote: long time since i've seen PvZ, flash factor probably! you havnt missed much zergs been winning at least 80% of that matchup | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:29 garista wrote: Where is the option "too fast, didn't see"? The stream died but they showed the replay... | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Stats pushing with some zealot pressure, but gets pushed back by sunkens. Speed finishes and he goes in again, drones drill to defend the sunks. | ||
On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:32 On_Slaught wrote: WTF lomo. It's kwanro. As long as you don't 14cc it's a free win! Someone's disillusional. Kwanro isn't bad lategame, he only played lategame vs Flash fyi. And come on boes, I wanna see Chintoss vs Kwanro!! | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Roro pushing with 3 lurkers at the nat, but storm goes off over two. Haha awesome stats using a zealot and archon to splash the burrowed lurkers that he can't see!! Stats taking his 3rd at 6. Roro pushing it with pure lurkers. Still no obs for stats, but cannons are going up. | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Lots of hydras pouring into the 3rd now. | ||
Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:34 QuothTheRaven wrote: DTs out, hitting the 6th hatchery but hydras/overlord finish in time to defend it. Roro pushing with 3 lurkers at the nat, but storm goes off over two. Haha awesome stats using a zealot and archon to splash the burrowed lurkers that he can't see!! Stats taking his 3rd at 6. Roro pushing it with pure lurkers. Still no obs for stats, but cannons are going up. where are you watching this? | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:34 Iplaythings wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:32 On_Slaught wrote: WTF lomo. It's kwanro. As long as you don't 14cc it's a free win! Someone's disillusional. Kwanro isn't bad lategame, he only played lategame vs Flash fyi. He crushed Light in lategame multiple times in MSL opening with 3hat before pool too. | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:35 Vivi57 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:34 QuothTheRaven wrote: DTs out, hitting the 6th hatchery but hydras/overlord finish in time to defend it. Roro pushing with 3 lurkers at the nat, but storm goes off over two. Haha awesome stats using a zealot and archon to splash the burrowed lurkers that he can't see!! Stats taking his 3rd at 6. Roro pushing it with pure lurkers. Still no obs for stats, but cannons are going up. where are you watching this? Check the top right of TL on the calendar section, both T.O.P. and Boesthius are streaming it. | ||
Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Retreats for some zealot reinforcements and re-engages, same thing happens and he has to retreat again. Roro busting into the nat now. | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
No matter what the zerg does, we win. :/ | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Confuse
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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zmeqt
Bulgaria527 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:38 QuothTheRaven wrote: Stats going for a large goon templar push, but Roro has way too many hydras and it gets repelled with ease. Retreats for some zealot reinforcements and re-engages, same thing happens and he has to retreat again. Roro busting into the nat now. If by goon templar push, you mean goon push. ![]() | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:41 Saracen wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:38 QuothTheRaven wrote: Stats going for a large goon templar push, but Roro has way too many hydras and it gets repelled with ease. Retreats for some zealot reinforcements and re-engages, same thing happens and he has to retreat again. Roro busting into the nat now. If by goon templar push, you mean goon push. ![]() He had like 3 or 4 high templars . . . but only two or three storms and he missed most of them, so yeah . . . pretty much just a goon push | ||
Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:36 Harem wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:34 Iplaythings wrote: On June 05 2010 17:32 On_Slaught wrote: WTF lomo. It's kwanro. As long as you don't 14cc it's a free win! Someone's disillusional. Kwanro isn't bad lategame, he only played lategame vs Flash fyi. He crushed Light in lategame multiple times in MSL opening with 3hat before pool too. Yeah I know, but people only say it's bad because Flash made it look bad. Thanks for clearing that up, actually forgot that series which Kwanro 3-0'ed Light in (; | ||
538
Hungary3932 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously Protoss needs a huge combination of luck and skill to win a PvZ right now. How can you compete with infinite hydra? Can't believe Z complain about T when they have such an easy ass matchup v P since 3 hatch muta into 5 hatch hydra came out Well, Zergs have lost two starleagues in the last 1.5 year. They are struggling. But they need to make some serious pro-protoss maps or something as this is getting silly | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Stupidity
United States209 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:44 Lann555 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously Protoss needs a huge combination of luck and skill to win a PvZ right now. How can you compete with infinite hydra? Can't believe Z complain about T when they have such an easy ass matchup v P since 3 hatch muta into 5 hatch hydra came out Well, Zergs have lost two starleagues in the last 1.5 year. They are struggling. But they need to make some serious pro-protoss maps or something as this is getting silly Yes, struggling. When was the last time you saw a Protoss player win a final? | ||
SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:47 Stupidity wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:44 Lann555 wrote: On June 05 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously Protoss needs a huge combination of luck and skill to win a PvZ right now. How can you compete with infinite hydra? Can't believe Z complain about T when they have such an easy ass matchup v P since 3 hatch muta into 5 hatch hydra came out Well, Zergs have lost two starleagues in the last 1.5 year. They are struggling. But they need to make some serious pro-protoss maps or something as this is getting silly Yes, struggling. When was the last time you saw a Protoss player win a final? was it stork? Oh my.... | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:47 Stupidity wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:44 Lann555 wrote: On June 05 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously Protoss needs a huge combination of luck and skill to win a PvZ right now. How can you compete with infinite hydra? Can't believe Z complain about T when they have such an easy ass matchup v P since 3 hatch muta into 5 hatch hydra came out Well, Zergs have lost two starleagues in the last 1.5 year. They are struggling. But they need to make some serious pro-protoss maps or something as this is getting silly Yes, struggling. When was the last time you saw a Protoss player win a final? Nony! | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:48 johanes wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:47 Stupidity wrote: On June 05 2010 17:44 Lann555 wrote: On June 05 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously Protoss needs a huge combination of luck and skill to win a PvZ right now. How can you compete with infinite hydra? Can't believe Z complain about T when they have such an easy ass matchup v P since 3 hatch muta into 5 hatch hydra came out Well, Zergs have lost two starleagues in the last 1.5 year. They are struggling. But they need to make some serious pro-protoss maps or something as this is getting silly Yes, struggling. When was the last time you saw a Protoss player win a final? was it stork? Oh my.... yes. a more stunning fact: of the last 8 starleagues, zerg have won 6, and both nonzerg titles were to flash. | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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dtnmang
Vietnam752 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:44 Lann555 wrote: Losing 2 starleagues in the last 1.5 year but winning the rest? lolShow nested quote + On June 05 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously Protoss needs a huge combination of luck and skill to win a PvZ right now. How can you compete with infinite hydra? Can't believe Z complain about T when they have such an easy ass matchup v P since 3 hatch muta into 5 hatch hydra came out Well, Zergs have lost two starleagues in the last 1.5 year. They are struggling. But they need to make some serious pro-protoss maps or something as this is getting silly | ||
bearbuddy
3442 Posts
Toss needs to wait until Terran overturn zerg to get their glory. | ||
iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
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Hungary3932 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
No Roro pulls drones and just BARELY holds on. | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:52 iLoveKT wrote: yeah I think P needs to stop forge FE. They just give zerg freedom to take 2 expos early and any sort of zealot timing pushes doesnt work anymore because of sim city. Go back to 1 base-ing imo... or a very well executed sair reaver. 1 base is a free win for zerg EVEN when zerg gets caught off guard with it. Protoss has lost all recent 1 basing games, and those aren't even that recent since no one wants to do it. Zergs do shit like accidentally making the third far away and they end up winning anyway. | ||
Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:50 dtnmang wrote: Show nested quote + Losing 2 starleagues in the last 1.5 year but winning the rest? lolOn June 05 2010 17:44 Lann555 wrote: On June 05 2010 17:41 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously Protoss needs a huge combination of luck and skill to win a PvZ right now. How can you compete with infinite hydra? Can't believe Z complain about T when they have such an easy ass matchup v P since 3 hatch muta into 5 hatch hydra came out Well, Zergs have lost two starleagues in the last 1.5 year. They are struggling. But they need to make some serious pro-protoss maps or something as this is getting silly I was being sarcastic. Zergs have been on top of the game for a long time now and it will probably remain that way till the end of BW. Protoss are out of ideas and good protoss maps are no longer allowed it seems :D | ||
Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On June 05 2010 17:52 iLoveKT wrote: yeah I think P needs to stop forge FE. They just give zerg freedom to take 2 expos early and any sort of zealot timing pushes doesnt work anymore because of sim city. Go back to 1 base-ing imo... or a very well executed sair reaver. Haven't Protoss been doing 1-base builds for like 7 years straight before the Bisu-build became popular? And it was dealt with pretty easily most of the time by zergs and it's probably worse now with improved Zerg-builds/sim city. | ||
SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Muta scourge for Roro vs. pure muta. But Kwanro has speedlings backstabbing roro's base, doing major drone damage and ALMOST killing the spire! | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
But Kwanro looks like he's just going to lose to mutaling anyways. | ||
Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kwanro rebuilding drones now. | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Kwanro sneaks a ling in and gets to see Roro's drone/muta count. | ||
SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
Are we entering "foreign ZvZ" stage now? :p | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Tons of scourge blowing up, but it's hard to tell how much damage they did. Roro ends up backing off. Neither player with any upgrades. Roro starting a 3rd hatch in his main! | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
especially since he has the drone advantage | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
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Fenrax
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United States5018 Posts
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Shuray
Brazil642 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
what is he waiting for -_- | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
he should tech to hive now... oh well, works for me as a kwanro fan | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Stuff is dying . . . Roro comes out on top with a ton of mutas left. Kwanro GGs. | ||
sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Lucumo
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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TheMute
United States458 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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Fenrax
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United States5018 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:12 Black Gun wrote: wtf, why does it say the stream is offline for me? is it working for every1 else? It's working for me | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Anyways game looks pretty standard. Lomo not walling, Stats going for 1gate core, scouting after core. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Stats getting a citadel! | ||
538
Hungary3932 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
Probes being pulled. Stats throws down a pylon at the main to solid wall it, but the army's already inside. Stream buffering a ton ![]() | ||
Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
I mean, why else would wemade field him for Ace matches over and over? | ||
QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:26 Iplaythings wrote: People are prolly gonna realize that Roro is above average. I mean, why else would wemade field him for Ace matches over and over? I think anyone who played FPL the last year knows this. Because every single person had RoRo on his FPL on some point, oh a mediocre zerg that has 5/6 points, this is a freebie, then their anti team proceeds to get raped and they cant trade him away with anyone worse. | ||
TheMute
United States458 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:37 JohnColtrane wrote: i just tuned in, any decent games? Quick summary of all tonight's games: + Show Spoiler + A Kwanrolling, a very standard vanilla ZvP, a weird ZvZ that was interesting but then dragged on for way too long, and now this game | ||
JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:39 QuothTheRaven wrote: + Show Spoiler + A Kwanrolling, a very standard vanilla ZvP, a weird ZvZ that was interesting but then dragged on for way too long, and now this game kwanrooool | ||
jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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moopie
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
Poor Lomo. | ||
johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Given these last two games I expect Stats to fail in the final match but maybe he picked up some groove in that last match... | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... | ||
astalkulo
United States444 Posts
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... 1 base play PvZ (before Bisu build) was a nightmare so the only thing Stats can do is cheese or pray Kwanro is brain dead really. | ||
5unrise
New Zealand646 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... | ||
Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:40 Alaric wrote: Unmined main ftw. Way to go, Lomo. In fairness, Lomo did have a fair number of mines in his main. He was hoping to bait Stats into one of those "lemme get my Arbiter as far in as possible then Recall", which would have killed the Recall instantly. He also had enough Turrets to keep Observers from getting in deep. But Stats' advantage was so big that he just methodically Recalled at the edge and moved his way in. | ||
Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:44 Subwoofermate wrote: 1 base play PvZ (before Bisu build) was a nightmare so the only thing Stats can do is cheese or pray Kwanro is brain dead really . It's been known to happen. Let us pray | ||
M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... When is the last time 2 gate actually worked? | ||
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:45 M2 wrote: I think stats has fair chance vs Z on thriatlon agreed. A good portion of modern ZvP is denying or delaying a third, which is harder on Triathlon because of the backdoor expo. | ||
darktreb
United States3016 Posts
Lomo: None of the P's on my team are this good, I have no idea what to do Stats: Flash has come back from this position before against me. I better play it super safe and not try to end it too early. | ||
okum
France5778 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. | ||
RandomAbuse
187 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:46 darktreb wrote: Lomo vs Stats in a nutshell Lomo: None of the P's on my team are this good, I have no idea what to do Stats: Flash has come back from this position before against me. I better play it super safe and not try to end it too early. ![]() | ||
okum
France5778 Posts
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5unrise
New Zealand646 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Tell me the last time 2 gate worked in a pro game. | ||
okum
France5778 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:55 De4ngus wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Tell me the last time 2 gate worked in a pro game. I heard GARIMTO won with it one time. | ||
Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:55 De4ngus wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Tell me the last time 2 gate worked in a pro game. I can tell you the last time 3 gate worked in a pro game. | ||
Subwoofermate
293 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Two gate builds only work on idiots. If the two gate fails to do any real damage, which is rare these days since zergs are so good at defending against early zealots, you're utterly screwed because of how behind you are with your expansion and you've basically contained yourself until you can break through lurkers and/or mutalisks. | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:58 Vivi57 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:55 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Tell me the last time 2 gate worked in a pro game. I can tell you the last time 3 gate worked in a pro game. 3gate builds are usually 1gate tech openings, which are a different story. | ||
Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:59 samachking wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:58 Vivi57 wrote: On June 05 2010 18:55 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Tell me the last time 2 gate worked in a pro game. I can tell you the last time 3 gate worked in a pro game. 3gate builds are usually 1gate tech openings, which are a different story. well, a few days ago a 2 gate build worked in pvz he then proceeded to throw the game away *after* he had z at 1 base to his 2 | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 05 2010 19:00 Vivi57 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:59 samachking wrote: On June 05 2010 18:58 Vivi57 wrote: On June 05 2010 18:55 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Tell me the last time 2 gate worked in a pro game. I can tell you the last time 3 gate worked in a pro game. 3gate builds are usually 1gate tech openings, which are a different story. well, a few days ago a 2 gate build worked in pvz he then proceeded to throw the game away *after* he had z at 1 base to his 2 Thats because your tech is slow as fuck if you expand after a 2 gate. | ||
dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
chintoss bringing the pain. | ||
Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
chin for the win. | ||
okum
France5778 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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Confuse
2238 Posts
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TheMute
United States458 Posts
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Cap10
United States71 Posts
The game has passed the stage in which Kwanro can win. | ||
sixfour
England11061 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On June 05 2010 18:52 RandomAbuse wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:46 darktreb wrote: Lomo vs Stats in a nutshell Lomo: None of the P's on my team are this good, I have no idea what to do Stats: Flash has come back from this position before against me. I better play it super safe and not try to end it too early. ![]() BackHo: That was a pretty accurate assessment! | ||
moopie
12605 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4723 Posts
![]() Stats deserves it anyway after showing nice results in SPL. And Kwanro made too many mistakes. | ||
nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
Bad kwanro :p | ||
Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 05 2010 19:03 De4ngus wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 19:00 Vivi57 wrote: On June 05 2010 18:59 samachking wrote: On June 05 2010 18:58 Vivi57 wrote: On June 05 2010 18:55 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:53 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:52 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... LOL 2 gate. explain the hilarity, I frequently lose to 2 gate builds. The fact that it's not expected makes it just that much more effective Tell me the last time 2 gate worked in a pro game. I can tell you the last time 3 gate worked in a pro game. 3gate builds are usually 1gate tech openings, which are a different story. well, a few days ago a 2 gate build worked in pvz he then proceeded to throw the game away *after* he had z at 1 base to his 2 Thats because your tech is slow as fuck if you expand after a 2 gate. but the Z just used speelings... | ||
538
Hungary3932 Posts
On June 05 2010 19:08 nozaro33 wrote: Yeah Stats! The stream was buffering incredibly bad that I couldn't even watch... it seems to be like that all the time recently. is it my internet connection or have others also have occurred heavy buffering? If you see afreeca's blue buffer percentages showing up in the top left corner when it lags: its the stream lagging. If not, then its you. | ||
d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
<.< >.> | ||
538
Hungary3932 Posts
On June 05 2010 19:14 bearbuddy wrote: What if my stream is buffering while Afreeca is buffering? <.< >.> You should be able to see a pattern nonetheless :-p | ||
sixfour
England11061 Posts
On June 05 2010 19:08 nozaro33 wrote: Yeah Stats! The stream was buffering incredibly bad that I couldn't even watch... it seems to be like that all the time recently. is it my internet connection or have others also have occurred heavy buffering? boes' link on the right was unusable for me due to buffering and browser complaints about a script hanging. the external zeroboy link at the top of the thread worked fine. | ||
Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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RandomAbuse
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Roro made up for Mind's failure to advance while Stats has ensured that a Chin presence will be felt in the MSL. ~_~ | ||
khersai
Poland366 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
c'mon kwanrooo! | ||
SoManyDeadLings
Canada255 Posts
Thank you dear lord for eliminating KWANROLL, I would probably quit following progaming altogether if all-in zerg made another MSL final. | ||
dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
I guess this proves that Roro is actually GOOD. And not anti-material. >.< | ||
Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
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Neighbor
United States119 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On the 2gate discussion before game 5: On June 05 2010 18:45 Lann555 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... When is the last time 2 gate actually worked? IIRC, Stork consistently played 2gate on Outsider, and won games. | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Hmmm that still isn't that convincing. | ||
Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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Subwoofermate
293 Posts
On June 06 2010 04:06 TheYango wrote: All hail the Chintoss! On the 2gate discussion before game 5: Show nested quote + On June 05 2010 18:45 Lann555 wrote: On June 05 2010 18:44 5unrise wrote: On June 05 2010 18:42 De4ngus wrote: On June 05 2010 18:41 johanes wrote: now Stats will go FE again and lose again... Protoss has no choice but to fe..... How? he can go 2 gate, and its not like 2 gate is all-in since zerg will need to give up economy to defend... When is the last time 2 gate actually worked? IIRC, Stork consistently played 2gate on Outsider, and won games. outsider is not an answer since you don't need to forge expand to have a safe quick expansion. | ||
Neighbor
United States119 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 06 2010 08:02 Neighbor wrote: ![]() ![]() That game was center 9/9 gates -_- That was a pretty funny pl day. Ace tried to 3-0 khan with cheese but they got raped anyway. | ||
De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On June 06 2010 05:27 Mortician wrote: Well, Triathlon is kinda like outsider, in a sense that you can go 2 gate, put pressure and then expand at the backyard, or like God's Garden/Loki, where people used to go 1gate/2gate into expand in the backyard It's usually better just to 1 gate expo since your tech doesn't get fucked. 2 gate was usually better on Outsider because your back expo had no gas. | ||
Ideas
United States8097 Posts
On June 06 2010 08:37 De4ngus wrote: That game was center 9/9 gates -_- That was a pretty funny pl day. Ace tried to 3-0 khan with cheese but they got raped anyway. if you want to include proxies, kal just beat great on rhapsody a few weeks back in the ace match of STX vs Khan ![]() but yea, standard 2gate is pretty much dead in Korea. | ||
ImaginationStation
Korea (South)25 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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