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Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
May 29 2010 10:22 GMT
#2681
congrats Lee Young Ho!
#1 김택용 팬 | #1 화승 오즈 프로게임단 팬 | 스타2 하자! | 나를 찢어갈겨 이 씨발놈아 왜 나를 미치게 만들어 니가 뭘 아는데?
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
May 29 2010 10:23 GMT
#2682
Consensus during OSL finals: 14CC is a terrible autoloss build and Flash is such a retard for sticking to it.

Consensus during MSL finals: 14CC is a totally imba autowin build that ruins Starcraft.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
May 29 2010 10:23 GMT
#2683
On May 29 2010 19:23 okum wrote:
Consensus during OSL finals: 14CC is a terrible autoloss build and Flash is such a retard for sticking to it.

Consensus during MSL finals: 14CC is a totally imba autowin build that ruins Starcraft.


Haha, 'aint that just the truth.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 29 2010 10:24 GMT
#2684
On May 29 2010 19:21 Gumbo wrote:
No one wanted the finals to happen like they did tonight... I'm glad I didnt stay up.



Honestly I think the Flash fans are fine with what happened. Don't worry though dude, Flash and JD will show us epic games in the future no doubt
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 29 2010 10:25 GMT
#2685
On May 29 2010 19:23 okum wrote:
Consensus during OSL finals: 14CC is a terrible autoloss build and Flash is such a retard for sticking to it.

Consensus during MSL finals: 14CC is a totally imba autowin build that ruins Starcraft.

lol so true

But then again I feel like Flash was just so much more prepared with 14CC.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
May 29 2010 10:25 GMT
#2686
On May 29 2010 19:23 okum wrote:
Consensus during OSL finals: 14CC is a terrible autoloss build and Flash is such a retard for sticking to it.

Consensus during MSL finals: 14CC is a totally imba autowin build that ruins Starcraft.


There is so much win in this single post. Hats off.
EGM guides me
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
May 29 2010 10:25 GMT
#2687
On May 29 2010 19:06 snowdrift86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 19:05 Emon_ wrote:
So, Effort > JD, right?


A > B, B > C doesn't mean A > C. But Effort definitely showed better adaptability and didn't hold back from early aggression.

lol nice fail there
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
May 29 2010 10:26 GMT
#2688
On May 29 2010 18:48 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:43 moopie wrote:
I can't fucking believe flash held off that all-in hydra bust with 2 goliaths and scvs. That was insane.



This. Seeing a screen's worth of hydras with speed just streaming to a nearly empty wall, and then seeing him HOLD IT OFF was amazing.


On May 29 2010 18:50 anch wrote:
before Kona clears up the chatroom
Show nested quote +

konadora mod: flash: "i lost in the OSL so i was very worried about today. i felt i would be facing a big hurdle in my career as a progamer if i were to lose today."
konadora mod: to flash: "you seemed to have prepared really well for today (lol 14cc)"
konadora mod: flash: "i practiced by telling myself that if i were to lose today, it would be the end of my career, and practiced 10 hours a day, which i felt was still not enough."


The MAN!
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 29 2010 10:26 GMT
#2689
On one hand this is why I don't post much about Starcraft on teamliquid; if you're a little bit wrong, the community just really jumps down your shirt.

On the other hand, the reactions over one little word that has (I think) undeserved negative connotations is quite amusing.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 29 2010 10:27 GMT
#2690
This time Flash didn;t just go blind 14CC as he used to. It was well crafted build, with early scout and then well-calculated defense.

Just last season when Flash won against Jaedong people were saying 7 rax is imba. This time Flash won against Jaedong with 14CC, then 14 CC is imba.

I see the pattern here
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 29 2010 10:27 GMT
#2691
On May 29 2010 19:27 Lebesgue wrote:
This time Flash didn;t just go blind 14CC as he used to. It was well crafted build, with early scout and then well-calculated defense.

Just last season when Flash won against Jaedong people were saying 7 rax is imba. This time Flash won against Jaedong with 14CC, then 14 CC is imba.

I see the pattern here


terran is imba?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 10:28:13
May 29 2010 10:27 GMT
#2692
On May 29 2010 19:27 Lebesgue wrote:
This time Flash didn;t just go blind 14CC as he used to. It was well crafted build, with early scout and then well-calculated defense.

Just last season when Flash won against Jaedong people were saying 7 rax is imba. This time Flash won against Jaedong with 14CC, then 14 CC is imba.

I see the pattern here


Terran is imba

lol fuck me I got the same idea as SuperArc
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 29 2010 10:28 GMT
#2693
lol at the above two posts

HATERS GONNA HATE
Wangsta
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 10:29:00
May 29 2010 10:28 GMT
#2694
On May 29 2010 19:25 Corrupt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 19:06 snowdrift86 wrote:
On May 29 2010 19:05 Emon_ wrote:
So, Effort > JD, right?


A > B, B > C doesn't mean A > C. But Effort definitely showed better adaptability and didn't hold back from early aggression.

lol nice fail there


A = (-1) * x, (where x is the square of other number in the comparison)
B = -0.9
C = -2

A > B
B > C
C > A
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 29 2010 10:28 GMT
#2695
On May 29 2010 19:25 Corrupt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 19:06 snowdrift86 wrote:
On May 29 2010 19:05 Emon_ wrote:
So, Effort > JD, right?


A > B, B > C doesn't mean A > C. But Effort definitely showed better adaptability and didn't hold back from early aggression.

lol nice fail there

its not fail. the normal (A>B, B>C) => A>C only works if A, B and C are deterministic variables. It does not work when the variables are probabilistic.
...from the land of imba
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
May 29 2010 10:29 GMT
#2696
[image loading]
There's something special about CJ and STX fans
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 29 2010 10:29 GMT
#2697
I will say this; If Flash went blind 14 CC everygame and wasn't punnished for it. It would not have been this good. He would have shown that he needed some sort of BO-advantage over Jaedong.

However, to all who thinks he cheesed/played risky, he did infact scout before placing the CC. This makes his preparation better than jaedongs and I will eagerly await a counter to this opening.
There was no risk involved when scouting after first suply.

When Zerg goes 3hatch before pool it's a much bigger risk. However if they use early dronescout, it wouln't be risky either.

So this series was Flash doing one blind 14CC and jaedong doing one blind 3hatch before pool.
You can't call this cheese, but it's risky play. Each player played one risky game in this finals and the rest was calculated strategies.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#2698
On May 29 2010 19:28 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 19:25 Corrupt wrote:
On May 29 2010 19:06 snowdrift86 wrote:
On May 29 2010 19:05 Emon_ wrote:
So, Effort > JD, right?


A > B, B > C doesn't mean A > C. But Effort definitely showed better adaptability and didn't hold back from early aggression.

lol nice fail there


A = (-1) * x, (where x is the square of other number in the comparison)
B = -0.9
C = -2

A > B
B > C
C > A


No, just no.

For the "greater or eaqul to" relation transitivity holds.

But in general it does not. For the binary relation that is "better than" we have to assume transitivity to use it.

So if ">" stands for a binary relation "better than" we can't assume transitivity, i.e that A>B and B>C implies A>C

Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#2699
On May 29 2010 19:29 okum wrote:
[image loading]
There's something special about CJ and STX fans


SuperArc is our all-out diehard troll fanboy..no need to poke fun at him.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
May 29 2010 10:32 GMT
#2700
After this final I can totally agree with Artosis and his words about EffOrt.
GJ FlaSh! Best terran of all time! ^_^
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