EPT[OSL] Semi-Final B - Page 24
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2057 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On May 14 2010 19:26 Trezeguet23 wrote: it seems 5hatch hydra > FE esp when muta are out snipping ht. That game was a good example of why there was that huge thread about zvp being imbalanced, it seems like there was nothing Kal could do to overcome the huge hydra push that basically never ends. Kal did make a mistake by losing the sairs and some probes early game. Then again, Effort did nothing special, except execute the standard build very well with his insane APM-macro. But in terms of strategy, ZvP doesn't require much thinking anymore. There are some standard builds that have no real counter and always put Protoss in trouble no matter what they do | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 14 2010 19:27 Holgerius wrote: Hey SuperArc, weren't you an Effort anti-fan a few weeks ago? I still am except ZvP where he never lost his skill. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Mobile phone ad for... alien v. godzilla? Very appropriate. | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On May 14 2010 19:27 Lazerbeems wrote: The only "real" solution would be good use of reavers but against good zergs, that still isn't going to do much due to how little damage corsairs actually do and how tough mutalisks are. Last Romantic has it right. not to mention the dts he made that did nothing. | ||
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Mekexi
Poland18 Posts
On May 14 2010 19:27 vietboi wrote: 3-0 incoming. Effort is just to dominating in zvp, while kal is weak in pvz(compared with his other MU). Just a perfect MU for Effort really! First map was triathlon! Anybody who thinks like me and think that sair/reaver would have worked out well on that map? Easy third base and gas. And sair dominates air so drop at the easy third can easily be defended. I see a major flaw in your plan. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On May 14 2010 19:27 Last Romantic wrote: 1) Protoss has ALWAYS needed storms/reavers to have parity against Zerg in an army/army clash. 2) Kal used so much gas on useless corsairs - he built 7 or 8 over the course of the game, which killed maybe 6 scourge 3 ol and like 3 muta. Of course his ground army would be super weak as a result - that's 5 templar and 5 zlots right there. Kal also lost about 4-5 probes to lings early | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 14 2010 19 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 14 2010 19 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:27 Last Romantic wrote: 1) Protoss has ALWAYS needed storms/reavers to have parity against Zerg in an army/army clash. 2) Kal used so much gas on useless corsairs - he built 7 or 8 over the course of the game, which killed maybe 6 scourge 3 ol and like 3 muta. Of course his ground army would be super weak as a result - that's 5 templar and 5 zlots right there. This is actually a really good point, although he needed something to defend his HTs from snipes(still didn't work). Maybe he needed some more Archons, more aggressive harrassment, and eehh Reavers? I feel like P always wins if they go Reavers and always loses if they don't | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
lol....just lol | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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okum
France5779 Posts
On May 14 2010 19:27 cokencheese wrote: Watch Stork's PvZ from around January. He focuses mostly on sair/reaver to get a safe third then forms an unstoppable death ball of goons and reavers. Indeed. Those were some great games. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
 It's just that his PvZ was not meant to be to destroy Effort, Zero and Jaedong... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Hungary3932 Posts
On May 14 2010 19:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Kal 3-2 inc. I want to believe so much, but he has let us down so many times now | ||
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integral
United States3161 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
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