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Beachac
Profile Joined June 2009
United States278 Posts
May 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#541
On May 13 2010 19:25 flamewheel91 wrote:
Mind games, Flash. Mind games.
Also what the Engineering Bay from Flash?


Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 19:25 Beachac wrote:
this stream is giving me the most ANNOYING ADD

The "One Life to Live" thing that's blocking the minimap?


yes, i'm raging so hard
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8107 Posts
May 13 2010 10:27 GMT
#542
Flash playing super duper greedy.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#543
obs for free.

flash building another cc to float down to 6.

flash setting up turrets.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#544
Flash building a cc in his main off 2 factories. Getting a quick third.
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 10:28:22
May 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#545
On May 13 2010 19:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 19:24 OneOther wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:22 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:20 OneOther wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:18 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:17 De4ngus wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:
This serie marks the end of the 12 nexus reign. Flash proves the world that with good micro, terran doesn't need to make any concession (normal 11 rax into 4 rines) to his normal build order to lolrape 12 nexus early game.

/12 nex, we won't regret you.

no.....

You just have to respond properly.

Free tried twice, and twice Flash pwned him with the exact same shit. Flash early game style seems to be a hard counter to 12 nex.

well I mean, Flash's forward rax is working so effectively because he knows Protoss players will 12 Nex to start with an economic advantage. You make it seem like forward rax doesn't hurt the Terran but if Protoss decides to zealot harass or early goon pressure the forward rax makes a huge difference. there's no sim city and there is no wall.

Then protoss are fucking dumb because Flash is playing all the time with forward rax theses days. If that was hard countered by anything except 12 nex, people would have done it.

its a risk u have to take vs flash and he recently started doing it a lot

Maybe you are right after all... Time will say. Anyway, the little baller is damn lucky, he bo wins every game.


Yep, that's pure luck.

cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
May 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#546
On May 13 2010 19:24 SuperJongMan wrote:
Wow.
Free could not have tried harder to pick worse BO MU's
On the two 2 player maps he 12nex, yeah whatever.
On the 4 player map, the best map to 12nex... he lets Flash 15cc.

Fuck.. imma die from blood pressure.


I don't understand why you say this. Free 12nexed the past 2 games and was hard countered by forward raxes.

His option this game would've been to go blind 12nex again, which I'm sure everyone would've called him stupid for.

Or play more conservatively and be safe against another forward rax.

He chose the latter, as I'm sure Flash mindfucked him into doing. Why are you posting shit like Free is 'letting' Flash 1raxCC? It's not like he has maphacks and knows exactly what build Flash is doing. Free has to react to Flash in this series, and unfortunately for him Flash predicted it perfectly, but implying that he's making a mistake for unluckily playing the wrong counter is just ignorant.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#547
Stargate for free, 2base arbiter incoming. Flash building his third CC in main, going to float to 6.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#548
Flash's 3rd CC already finished as free starts his own 3rd.
. . . nevermore
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 13 2010 10:28 GMT
#549
Looks like Free's getting arbiters off 2 bases. Free sees the third cc building and responds with his own third.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 13 2010 10:29 GMT
#550
the only good thing free has going for him is that flash didn't scout early enough to figure out if it's 12nex or just FE from free.
10or10
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden517 Posts
May 13 2010 10:29 GMT
#551
On May 13 2010 19:27 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 19:24 10or10 wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:13 darktreb wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:10 7mk wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:09 Itachii wrote:
Its not just about Flash being better than everyone else, these guys seem to have some kind of mental block when they face him
gg


yeah I completely agree. They never manage to ignore that they are playing a freaking monster and it affects their play


Once upon time another player affected his opponents this way.

I'm not going to say "the word" but we all know who I'm talking about.

I'm not as skilled as you guys in bw history and such. But what does Flash have to do to become "the word" as you put it? It seems to me he is really dominating most players, and is probably a favorite to win any match except maybe Jaedong, where they are almost even. Jaedong hasn't that over the top good this spring but Flash has been consistent for a long time and might win the double... Is it the fact that he isn't overwhelmingly favorite against all players and he hasn't won a double?


Time has inflated our perception of the past bonjwas. Objectively, no one has ever dominated as hard as Flash is right now. As good as Oov was even he never even made both semis two seasons in a row (and Flash is about to make both finals). Jaedong is arguably the only thing left.

Does the flashbonjwa discussion differ from korea and tl?
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 13 2010 10:29 GMT
#552
Free goes in Flash's 3rd to stop the CC from landing but siege tanks and vultures are already there. Free backs off.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 13 2010 10:29 GMT
#553
Free tries to delay the 3rd with his goons, but Flash's tank positioning is too strong and he backs off with no losses.
. . . nevermore
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 13 2010 10:29 GMT
#554
free trying to harass at 6 oclock as flash gets ready to set his cc.

flash sieges and forces free's goons away.

free's expo at 12 finishes and probes transfer.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 13 2010 10:30 GMT
#555
Flash gets 2 vultures into free's 3rd and kills like 5 probes, lol massacre.
. . . nevermore
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 13 2010 10:30 GMT
#556
Flash sneaks 2 vultures into Free's third. Kills a few probes.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8107 Posts
May 13 2010 10:30 GMT
#557
On May 13 2010 19:28 minus_human wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2010 19:25 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:24 OneOther wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:22 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:20 OneOther wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:18 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:17 De4ngus wrote:
On May 13 2010 19:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:
This serie marks the end of the 12 nexus reign. Flash proves the world that with good micro, terran doesn't need to make any concession (normal 11 rax into 4 rines) to his normal build order to lolrape 12 nexus early game.

/12 nex, we won't regret you.

no.....

You just have to respond properly.

Free tried twice, and twice Flash pwned him with the exact same shit. Flash early game style seems to be a hard counter to 12 nex.

well I mean, Flash's forward rax is working so effectively because he knows Protoss players will 12 Nex to start with an economic advantage. You make it seem like forward rax doesn't hurt the Terran but if Protoss decides to zealot harass or early goon pressure the forward rax makes a huge difference. there's no sim city and there is no wall.

Then protoss are fucking dumb because Flash is playing all the time with forward rax theses days. If that was hard countered by anything except 12 nex, people would have done it.

its a risk u have to take vs flash and he recently started doing it a lot

Maybe you are right after all... Time will say. Anyway, the little baller is damn lucky, he bo wins every game.


Yep, that's pure luck.

Miond game is mind game, but you still need some luck. Mind game and bad luck, and you lose anyway. You can predict things because you are smarter, you can't be sure 100%. Mind game is betting, and although on the long term, it's just skill, being 100% accurate on one serie involves a part of luck.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Dr4w
Profile Joined July 2009
France9 Posts
May 13 2010 10:30 GMT
#558
2 expand vs 2 expand
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 13 2010 10:30 GMT
#559
Free loses a bunch of probes to vultures. Not looking too good.
GANDHISAUCE
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
May 13 2010 10:30 GMT
#560
free taking his 3rd at 9, but Flash scouts it immediately with vultures. Goons there to save everything.

Flash adding up to 7 factories.
. . . nevermore
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