EPTOn April 16 2010 20:04 jalstar wrote:
Movie wins with a 140 APM deficit
entertaining game, so what were the apms?Movie wins with a 140 APM deficit
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:11 Mystlord wrote: Baby never set up a solid Arbiter defense at any real base, especially 6. He just let arbiters walk all over him, and as a result he could never fully establish 6. But there was a period in the game where Movie was basically back down onto 3 base, and Baby didn't use that time to take 9 and secure it properly. It ended up being awhile before Baby was confident to take 9 and stopping the 1 arb that sat there the entire time. I agree with your point, but that period in the game was way earlier than the part he was talking about ("3 fresh mining bases" meaning 2 o'clock, 1o'clock, and 12 o'clock"). | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:12 We Are Here wrote: entertaining game, so what were the apms? 364 Baby, 224 Movie | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:07 darktreb wrote: "fast expanding himself" ?? What base is Terran supposed to take after taking the 4 that Baby had, in a game where both players are constantly skirmishing? Maybe Baby could have moved toward 11 earlier though he spent a lot of energy holding 6 until it was mined out. It's really hard to reinforce to 11 for T as well. And Baby did a lot of damage to Movie's "3 fresh mining bases" repeatedly. Baby denied Movie a fourth for a very long time, but once Movie got his fourth established, he was always running on at least two of the three top-right bases at all times, and Baby's tank + dropship play was not cost effective. If Baby couldn't take the upper left corner bases (I'm not at all convinced of this) then he needed to smash movie while he still had the supply advantage. You cannot expect moderate harassment to make up the difference between 1 mining base and 3 mining bases, particularly if you lose units during that harassment. Now it's Zero hour. | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:12 darktreb wrote: I agree with your point, but that period in the game was way earlier than the part he was talking about ("3 fresh mining bases" meaning 2 o'clock, 1o'clock, and 12 o'clock"). Hm? He was talking about Movie being able to take and hold 3 mining bases while Baby essentially took none. He never capitalized on his advantage. We might be talking past each other  Well, Zero vs Pure SHOULD be one sided (I hope)  | ||
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amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:11 SuperArc wrote: he also needs to make more tanks and less vultures That's because Baby was simply hurting for gas during a good part of that game (6 being a mineral only base). His army composition was heavily skewed towards vultures, he had no goliaths, and he was behind on upgrades. He took 9 way too late -- in fact, with hindsight, his whole strategy of taking 6 to slowly push towards the Protoss may have backfired, since he was forced to defend countless attacks and was spread too thin. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
Zero 4 Zero scouting the right direction | ||
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:11 SuperArc wrote: he also needs to make more tanks and less vultures hard to do when your 3rd is a mineral-only and you need science vessels too | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:17 We Are Here wrote: 224 is so low for a progamer -.-'' he must be really efficient or something. although the low apm sometimes shows through his multitasking movie has aways been "slow". Thats why i like him so much, he's a baller with low apm | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On April 16 2010 20:17 We Are Here wrote: 224 is so low for a progamer -.-'' he must be really efficient or something. although the low apm sometimes shows through his multitasking Doesn't Flash play with like 250 or so? Savior also plays in the 200s. | ||
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nebffa
Australia776 Posts
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amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
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Likkzi
Poland72 Posts
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Macedonia13092 Posts
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Kwanroller
Afghanistan459 Posts
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
LOL PROBE SCOUT TRIED TO GET OUT! NOPE! This is probably going to work.......... Corsair missing the OL! WAIT NO IT'S 2 HATCH HYDRA DROP INTO MAIN! | ||
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