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Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 11:03:21
April 16 2010 10:57 GMT
#381
On April 16 2010 19:57 Lann555 wrote:
So how did Baby end up losing this game? He was 30+ supply ahead at several moments in the midgame. Should he have pushed out earlier instead of playing defensively?


He lost this game because he refused to defend against arbiters.

Very few turrets, less than 10 goliaths until the carrier switch, and less than 5 EMPs is not called defending against arbiters. Its fortunate for Baby that a lot of Movie's stasis ended up being badly placed.

Not dealing with arbiters is a surefire way of losing the game.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 16 2010 10:57 GMT
#382
On April 16 2010 19:56 Elroi wrote:
umm how did moviie get so ahead in his macro. It looked like either he became a macro god from time to time, or baby just stoped playing. Did baby throw this to get rid of Storku..? :/


Movie always had impressive macro. He's one of the top protoss regarding macro. Why do you think his hangbang attacks put so many zergs off guard?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
April 16 2010 10:57 GMT
#383
On April 16 2010 19:55 SuperArc wrote:
Baby lost the game when he got pincered by Movie.

The attack from Movie at 11 was so great.


baby lost when he failed to position tanks well or emp anything.

his main army was vultures, almost no tanks in any attack outside of drops. you can't do that
Kal Fighting!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 16 2010 10:58 GMT
#384
On April 16 2010 19:55 Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 19:54 Lann555 wrote:
On April 16 2010 19:53 SuperArc wrote:
MOVIE!!!!

THE GREAT PROTOSS HOPE AND CJ ACE PLAYER!!!

Movie did very well.


Really? Movie made so many grave errors during this game and he should be slapped for trying to make mass archon vs terran =p

The only reason he did it was he was on 3 depleted gas but nearly no mins. That, and they float over mines and slaughter mass SCVs.


And in the end those recalls did pretty good damage.

Also anyone remember winners league semis ace match vs Leta last year? PvT archons lead him to victory
beep boop
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 16 2010 10:58 GMT
#385
wtf no tiebreakers?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 16 2010 10:58 GMT
#386
wow, no tiebreakers yet.
Brood War loyalist
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 16 2010 10:58 GMT
#387
On April 16 2010 19:54 Jackal03 wrote:
movie's out, i'm so happy



He is not out. Movie stays in.


On April 16 2010 19:53 okum wrote:
GG indeed. Amazing that Baby survived on basically one mining base for so long.


He was on 3 base. The fact that he lifted so often came at the cost of many recalls, which before the carrier switch one could say was not profiting him. BaBy had that until he Movie took out his units at 11, and switched to carriers.
CJ Entusman #24
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
April 16 2010 10:58 GMT
#388
baby probably should have expanded when he got advantage
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia937 Posts
April 16 2010 10:58 GMT
#389
As far as 12nex goes, thanks to probe snipes baby literally took 3rd earlier than movie did. Even though movie went for fast arb, it's still not supposed to be like that. Moreover, before baby did anything about using emps, movie pulled off a lot of successfull recalls. Baby did a great job with harrass, though - it did so much damage that he ended up ahead for a while.
hku
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
169 Posts
April 16 2010 11:00 GMT
#390
On April 16 2010 19:57 jalstar wrote:
Baby wouldn't throw this game, there's a chance that he'll have to play Flash in the round of 8 now


it was obviously not thrown. Baby played fantastic. Taking 11 isn't easy. The only fault that I saw was the he was behind on upgrades. Only 2-0 30 minutes into the game.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 16 2010 11:00 GMT
#391
SuperArc, you are such a fanboy.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 16 2010 11:00 GMT
#392
On April 16 2010 20:00 hku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 19:57 jalstar wrote:
Baby wouldn't throw this game, there's a chance that he'll have to play Flash in the round of 8 now


it was obviously not thrown. Baby played fantastic. Taking 11 isn't easy. The only fault that I saw was the he was behind on upgrades. Only 2-0 30 minutes into the game.


Didn't Movie take out at least 1 armory?
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 16 2010 11:01 GMT
#393
On April 16 2010 19:58 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 19:55 Romantic wrote:
On April 16 2010 19:54 Lann555 wrote:
On April 16 2010 19:53 SuperArc wrote:
MOVIE!!!!

THE GREAT PROTOSS HOPE AND CJ ACE PLAYER!!!

Movie did very well.


Really? Movie made so many grave errors during this game and he should be slapped for trying to make mass archon vs terran =p

The only reason he did it was he was on 3 depleted gas but nearly no mins. That, and they float over mines and slaughter mass SCVs.


And in the end those recalls did pretty good damage.

Also anyone remember winners league semis ace match vs Leta last year? PvT archons lead him to victory


No, he just had an abundance of gas at some point. I guess he felt it more appropriate to spend all of that on Archons rather than HT's. Either way they are good way to balance out -min/+gas imbalance.
CJ Entusman #24
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
April 16 2010 11:01 GMT
#394
Well great to see some long over due PvT abuse though. Terran has been owning too much lately
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
April 16 2010 11:02 GMT
#395
It's true that there were mistakes by both sides, but the game itself was quite tense and entertaining. Recommend it!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 16 2010 11:03 GMT
#396
On April 16 2010 20:00 Holgerius wrote:
SuperArc, you are such a fanboy.


of course I am, I always found it sad how Much was never able to get into a final. Now his apprentice Movie might get a 2nd silver.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
April 16 2010 11:03 GMT
#397
those archons put into the recalls really made those recalls worth it. Without being emped, they can take quite a few tank shots to get into range and slaughter the tanks. That and they do pretty good damage on the CCs and SCVs
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
hku
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
169 Posts
April 16 2010 11:03 GMT
#398
On April 16 2010 19:57 Kwanroller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 19:57 Lann555 wrote:
So how did Baby end up losing this game? He was 30+ supply ahead at several moments in the midgame. Should he have pushed out earlier instead of playing defensively?


He lost this game because he refused to defend against arbiters.


Baby was slow to emp a few times, but he couldn't really get many goliaths, because he chose the positionally advantageous 6 mineral only + drop ship play. And he did push early using 6, it was blocked well by movie.

I personally think what it came down to was slow EMP's, and letting Movie expand to 12.
NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
April 16 2010 11:03 GMT
#399
I will repeat myself

Movie's Arbiters >>>>> Baby's Science Vessels.

Baby was unable to EMP effectively which allowed Movie to recall his way into the game. Baby was not in a bad spot, they were tied in psy for the majority of the match. If Baby was able to stop more of Movie's recalls with EMP he probably wins. However he only prevented one if Im not mistaken.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
April 16 2010 11:04 GMT
#400
On April 16 2010 20:03 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 20:00 Holgerius wrote:
SuperArc, you are such a fanboy.


of course I am, I always found it sad how Much was never able to get into a final. Now his apprentice Movie might get a 2nd silver.


If he can get by Flash or if Flash is eliminated by someone else, I would say he would be the favorite to win the OSL.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
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