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lavion
Profile Joined September 2009
Singapore286 Posts
April 15 2010 16:17 GMT
#461
On April 16 2010 01:07 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 00:47 SubtleArt wrote:
Any1 else think Flash would have been screwd if Kal didn't transition to carriers?

Commentators said late-game Carrier transition was the only way to beat Flash. Flash hardly loses half vs half map battles vs Arbiter Protoss ground army. Kal's HUGE and obvious mistake was letting every expo die as he was pumping Carriers. But the credit goes to Flash...his ability to sense Carriers and destroy every expo right before they start moving around the map. I mean, it's just incredible what he's doing..seeing his gameplay makes me speechless


QFT. If Kal decides to be stubborn and carry on using the ground army, flash will just slow push him to death. If you watch mid game, flash was pushing to 7 to set up 2 bases there. 5 base Flash is pretty much unstoppable
Flash for bonjwa
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-15 16:27:48
April 15 2010 16:27 GMT
#462
On April 16 2010 01:17 lavion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 01:07 OneOther wrote:
On April 16 2010 00:47 SubtleArt wrote:
Any1 else think Flash would have been screwd if Kal didn't transition to carriers?

Commentators said late-game Carrier transition was the only way to beat Flash. Flash hardly loses half vs half map battles vs Arbiter Protoss ground army. Kal's HUGE and obvious mistake was letting every expo die as he was pumping Carriers. But the credit goes to Flash...his ability to sense Carriers and destroy every expo right before they start moving around the map. I mean, it's just incredible what he's doing..seeing his gameplay makes me speechless


QFT. If Kal decides to be stubborn and carry on using the ground army, flash will just slow push him to death. If you watch mid game, flash was pushing to 7 to set up 2 bases there. 5 base Flash is pretty much unstoppable


Once Flash gets his 4th gas and successfully splits the map, there is almost no way for a Protoss to overcome his perfect turtling. Kal's decision to switch to Carrier was correct. The problem is that he missed his timing. That early +2 attack upgrade on the arbiter was pretty damn obvious. Flash had ample amount of time to make preparation. He should have built less stargates, and attacked with 4 carriers as soon as +1 air attack finishes.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 15 2010 16:30 GMT
#463
Just watched the few minutes I missed of the game due to my retarded computer, and hfiwaohFI AWJfioawjio Flash is good. Takes out 5 bases just like that. Kal didn't play perfectly of course, but that was still one of the most impressive TvP performances I've ever seem.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 15 2010 17:39 GMT
#464
On April 16 2010 01:07 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2010 00:47 SubtleArt wrote:
Any1 else think Flash would have been screwd if Kal didn't transition to carriers?

Commentators said late-game Carrier transition was the only way to beat Flash. Flash hardly loses half vs half map battles vs Arbiter Protoss ground army. Kal's HUGE and obvious mistake was letting every expo die as he was pumping Carriers. But the credit goes to Flash...his ability to sense Carriers and destroy every expo right before they start moving around the map. I mean, it's just incredible what he's doing..seeing his gameplay makes me speechless


Makes sense. I guess the situation's deceptive cause Kal massed expansions with few gates so his macro would have taken a while to kick in anyway
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8161 Posts
April 15 2010 18:20 GMT
#465
once again kal loses to flash and doesnt even make a single reaver

really fucking good game though
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TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
April 15 2010 21:53 GMT
#466
Kal put up a good fight but Flash is just too much
tsk tsk fantasy, had it in the bag but blew it
SlayerS_BoxeR FTW ///// Long live the Emperor
kiero
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada136 Posts
April 15 2010 23:29 GMT
#467
15:15 of Jon747's video: for a second, it looked like kal learned how to build cannons without pylons o.o *offscreen pylon maybe*?
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-16 01:18:08
April 16 2010 01:17 GMT
#468
On April 16 2010 08:29 kiero wrote:
15:15 of Jon747's video: for a second, it looked like kal learned how to build cannons without pylons o.o *offscreen pylon maybe*?


Thats freaky as hell. Anyone see the off screen pylon?
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