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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
March 14 2010 02:25 GMT
#801
This is really bad for JD.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-14 02:59:36
March 14 2010 02:55 GMT
#802
I mean.. edit... lol
Entusman #51
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
March 14 2010 04:39 GMT
#803
On March 14 2010 11:25 On_Slaught wrote:
This is really bad for JD.

More time to practice for Pro-league!
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
March 14 2010 05:41 GMT
#804
wow JD lost? whaa
Nony is Bonjwa
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
March 14 2010 08:07 GMT
#805
baby made JD look like a child still getting breast fed by his mother.
...from the land of imba
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2003 Posts
March 14 2010 16:37 GMT
#806
"God Baby sucks so hard. Get those 3 SCVs working!"
"Baby is going to die
NO turrets in the main"
"Wow JD just rapes a whole bunch of MnM."
"WOW...Jaedong . He surely is angry about the 1st game."
"Baby needs to finish this before delifer comes out!"
"Defiler is going to win this. as usual terran has no answer"
"Consume done, looking bad for baby"
"Going to be tough for Baby now.."

Good job Baby. Show them!
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 14 2010 16:53 GMT
#807
On March 13 2010 09:21 Housemd wrote:
In my opinion, Baby just played better than Jaedong, way better than Jaedong TO WIN TWO SETS!!!

i think Jaedong either is tired and/or out of shape, he's been put under a lot of stress due winner's league...his entire team relies on him to win 3-4 matches every match

I hope jaedong recovers, it would be sad to see a legend like him die in a few days time

i need to start a fund that everytime this excuse comes up.
can you fucking fanboys just not accept that he lost or what
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Kuri
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada88 Posts
March 14 2010 17:04 GMT
#808
On March 13 2010 11:49 konadora wrote:
From the LB thread

Show nested quote +
On March 09 2010 22:05 konadora wrote:
Is this a joke?


30:1 odds. Rekrul could have made a lot of money if he had bet.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-14 17:09:06
March 14 2010 17:07 GMT
#809
I bet Jaedong is hitting himself in a head for not ppp when the bug occurred.

Saying baller lines like "I don't care, let's move on" only impresses if you are the final victor.

I think Jaedong got arrogant and too self-conceit of his own skills. He is indeed very close to topping Nada's record after all and fresh from a MSL gold. I hope this is a wake up call.

On the other hand...maybe Bisu feels happier now.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
March 14 2010 17:13 GMT
#810
On March 15 2010 01:53 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 09:21 Housemd wrote:
In my opinion, Baby just played better than Jaedong, way better than Jaedong TO WIN TWO SETS!!!

i think Jaedong either is tired and/or out of shape, he's been put under a lot of stress due winner's league...his entire team relies on him to win 3-4 matches every match

I hope jaedong recovers, it would be sad to see a legend like him die in a few days time

i need to start a fund that everytime this excuse comes up.
can you fucking fanboys just not accept that he lost or what


No, this is Jaedong.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Vic.nQQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bulgaria88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-14 17:18:45
March 14 2010 17:17 GMT
#811
On March 15 2010 02:07 dukethegold wrote:
I bet Jaedong is hitting himself in a head for not ppp when the bug occurred.

Saying baller lines like "I don't care, let's move on" only impresses if you are the final victor.

I think Jaedong got arrogant and too self-conceit of his own skills. He is indeed very close to topping Nada's record after all and fresh from a MSL gold. I hope this is a wake up call.

On the other hand...maybe Bisu feels happier now.



Tbh this reminds me of the Boxer story, where he explained how he trained a timing drop of 1 siege tank on some map that had a platform that fits exactly for that tank and with his timing he could shut down opponent's expo and skyrocket ahead.
But when the match came, it so happened that the map was rebalanced and he didn't bother checking it up, so when his dropship went to that point and could not drop the tank he was like "wtffff" but didn't do anything out of the ordinary (except that his dropship had to come back to base and he had to play from behind and eventually loose)



Why am I saying that? Don't get me wrong, I'm as much of a Jaedong fanboy as every other jae fanboy out here But I think it's quite normal for them to continue playing in such a spot.

Was he upset / angry? For sure!
Did he want a rematch? Maybe he "wanted" one unconsciously, but I'd bet he didn't even think for a second about typing ppp and ask KESPA for anything like that.
I believe!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 14 2010 17:41 GMT
#812
Just watched the second Jaedong vs Baby game... new Baby fan here. Hardly perfect play, but the kid was everywhere at once. Jaedong trying to sneak lurkers and lings in? Baby's already got a response and pursues them until they all die. He was fighting Jaedong on like 2-4 fronts, and winning! Doing all the little things... wow!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
March 14 2010 17:52 GMT
#813
On March 15 2010 02:17 Vic.nQQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2010 02:07 dukethegold wrote:
I bet Jaedong is hitting himself in a head for not ppp when the bug occurred.

Saying baller lines like "I don't care, let's move on" only impresses if you are the final victor.

I think Jaedong got arrogant and too self-conceit of his own skills. He is indeed very close to topping Nada's record after all and fresh from a MSL gold. I hope this is a wake up call.

On the other hand...maybe Bisu feels happier now.



Tbh this reminds me of the Boxer story, where he explained how he trained a timing drop of 1 siege tank on some map that had a platform that fits exactly for that tank and with his timing he could shut down opponent's expo and skyrocket ahead.
But when the match came, it so happened that the map was rebalanced and he didn't bother checking it up, so when his dropship went to that point and could not drop the tank he was like "wtffff" but didn't do anything out of the ordinary (except that his dropship had to come back to base and he had to play from behind and eventually loose)



Why am I saying that? Don't get me wrong, I'm as much of a Jaedong fanboy as every other jae fanboy out here But I think it's quite normal for them to continue playing in such a spot.

Was he upset / angry? For sure!
Did he want a rematch? Maybe he "wanted" one unconsciously, but I'd bet he didn't even think for a second about typing ppp and ask KESPA for anything like that.


err it was within the kespa rules to give JD a re. If actually pressed PPP he wouldve been given a re. Heck even after the game they asked JD if he wanted the re, but he said no and told them to go on.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
March 14 2010 18:05 GMT
#814
On March 14 2010 13:39 reincremate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2010 11:25 On_Slaught wrote:
This is really bad for JD.

More time to practice for Pro-league!


Doesn't do them any good if the rest of the team is trash.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
March 15 2010 02:37 GMT
#815
dude i dont get why JD get a chance to rematch for the first game.

it was clearly an intended function of SC. blizz intentionally made collision size of lurkers huge to make em clumsy as a balance measure. JD was stupid not to consider that lurkers might get pushed around when they finish morphing.

baby won the first game fair and square. the mapmaker didnt make a mistake nor did blizzard. JD played like a noob and lost.
...from the land of imba
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
March 15 2010 02:43 GMT
#816
On March 15 2010 02:17 Vic.nQQ wrote:
Tbh this reminds me of the Boxer story, where he explained how he trained a timing drop of 1 siege tank on some map that had a platform that fits exactly for that tank and with his timing he could shut down opponent's expo and skyrocket ahead.
But when the match came, it so happened that the map was rebalanced and he didn't bother checking it up, so when his dropship went to that point and could not drop the tank he was like "wtffff" but didn't do anything out of the ordinary (except that his dropship had to come back to base and he had to play from behind and eventually loose)



Why am I saying that? Don't get me wrong, I'm as much of a Jaedong fanboy as every other jae fanboy out here But I think it's quite normal for them to continue playing in such a spot.

Was he upset / angry? For sure!
Did he want a rematch? Maybe he "wanted" one unconsciously, but I'd bet he didn't even think for a second about typing ppp and ask KESPA for anything like that.


in boxer's situation though, KESPA's decision was unfair against boxer. it is EXTREMELY rare that a map gets changed in middle of a tournament.

almost every map had balance issues, ie, blue storm's natural expo layout was notoriously in favor of muta harass. they eventually patched blue storm, but the terrain change does not occur until the next tournament.
...from the land of imba
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
March 15 2010 02:47 GMT
#817
On March 15 2010 11:37 dybydx wrote:
dude i dont get why JD get a chance to rematch for the first game.

it was clearly an intended function of SC. blizz intentionally made collision size of lurkers huge to make em clumsy as a balance measure. JD was stupid not to consider that lurkers might get pushed around when they finish morphing.

baby won the first game fair and square. the mapmaker didnt make a mistake nor did blizzard. JD played like a noob and lost.
actually, lurkers are not that clumsy, they are simply bigger than hydralisks. they move almost as quickly as mnm and can keep up fairly well with speed-upgraded lings. they are not intended, however, to get trapped as some "balance measure." the doodads glitched the lurkers out accidently and was clearly a bug.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-15 02:51:23
March 15 2010 02:50 GMT
#818
On March 15 2010 11:43 dybydx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2010 02:17 Vic.nQQ wrote:
Tbh this reminds me of the Boxer story, where he explained how he trained a timing drop of 1 siege tank on some map that had a platform that fits exactly for that tank and with his timing he could shut down opponent's expo and skyrocket ahead.
But when the match came, it so happened that the map was rebalanced and he didn't bother checking it up, so when his dropship went to that point and could not drop the tank he was like "wtffff" but didn't do anything out of the ordinary (except that his dropship had to come back to base and he had to play from behind and eventually loose)



Why am I saying that? Don't get me wrong, I'm as much of a Jaedong fanboy as every other jae fanboy out here But I think it's quite normal for them to continue playing in such a spot.

Was he upset / angry? For sure!
Did he want a rematch? Maybe he "wanted" one unconsciously, but I'd bet he didn't even think for a second about typing ppp and ask KESPA for anything like that.


in boxer's situation though, KESPA's decision was unfair against boxer. it is EXTREMELY rare that a map gets changed in middle of a tournament.

almost every map had balance issues, ie, blue storm's natural expo layout was notoriously in favor of muta harass. they eventually patched blue storm, but the terrain change does not occur until the next tournament.


In Boxer's case, from what I heard, is that Boxer never got the new version of the map. The version that he received from Kespa was an outdated one. Nobody told him that the version got changed. It got famous when it was obvious to the audience that one of Boxer's dropships simply "hangout" in the middle of nowhere and ran around on top of a tiny piece of land for a good period of time. Kespa screwed up in that case.

In this case, Jaedong simply said "no" to the offer of a regame. Then he lost the 2nd set. GG. Kespa hardly at fault.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
March 15 2010 02:53 GMT
#819
On March 15 2010 01:37 Simplistik wrote:
"God Baby sucks so hard. Get those 3 SCVs working!"
"Baby is going to die
NO turrets in the main"
"Wow JD just rapes a whole bunch of MnM."
"WOW...Jaedong . He surely is angry about the 1st game."
"Baby needs to finish this before delifer comes out!"
"Defiler is going to win this. as usual terran has no answer"
"Consume done, looking bad for baby"
"Going to be tough for Baby now.."

Good job Baby. Show them!


ah I see 2 of my quotes in there *-_-;;;;*
Xellos <3
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
March 15 2010 04:26 GMT
#820
On March 15 2010 11:47 hyst.eric.al wrote:
actually, lurkers are not that clumsy, they are simply bigger than hydralisks. they move almost as quickly as mnm and can keep up fairly well with speed-upgraded lings. they are not intended, however, to get trapped as some "balance measure." the doodads glitched the lurkers out accidently and was clearly a bug.


the large size does make lurker forces clumsy when moving in large numbers and passing thru choke areas. this issue is more evident with dragoons going through a choke, which are easily melted by tanks

this terrain "glitch" is a well known feature of SC and has been frequently used in the MSL/OSL to "glitch" units over obstacles in maps like outsider or more famously on monty hall. iCCup rules even explicitly say that this bug is ALLOWED (along with "bugs" like hold lurkers)

so JD was being a total noob and deserved the loss.
...from the land of imba
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