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[OSL] Korean Air OSL Ro36 - Group J for Jaedong - Page 42

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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
March 15 2010 04:53 GMT
#821
On March 15 2010 11:50 dukethegold wrote:
In this case, Jaedong simply said "no" to the offer of a regame. Then he lost the 2nd set. GG. Kespa hardly at fault.


i totally dont understand why JD got offered a rematch unless KESPA screwed him by using a diff version of the map.
...from the land of imba
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
March 15 2010 05:46 GMT
#822
Are there source for giving a re-match, not because he is some champion that gives them TV ratings?
If he rematch the game that would seriously fucked their mindset.

This faulty AI is same as reaver shooting a scarab, what the fuck can the player do about it? Other than unit placements. If Protosses were to miss a scarab and given re's then hell would raise.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
March 15 2010 06:14 GMT
#823
On March 15 2010 14:46 anch wrote:
Are there source for giving a re-match, not because he is some champion that gives them TV ratings?
If he rematch the game that would seriously fucked their mindset.

This faulty AI is same as reaver shooting a scarab, what the fuck can the player do about it? Other than unit placements. If Protosses were to miss a scarab and given re's then hell would raise.

seriously >.> at least the mistake jaedong made is avoidable, just dont morph lurkers next to doodads that can fuck with their AI. completely dont understand why jaedong gets a rematch option while everyone else whos had a random fuck-up doesnt. wasnt there a time where a lurk got trapped between a cliff and a critter and died cause of it? that person didnt get a regame did he?
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 15 2010 06:24 GMT
#824
that was against boxer :O so ofc not!!
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
March 15 2010 06:28 GMT
#825
On March 15 2010 11:50 dukethegold wrote:
In this case, Jaedong simply said "no" to the offer of a regame. Then he lost the 2nd set. GG. Kespa hardly at fault.

???????
I'm sorry, where did you hear this information? I speak fluent Korean and I didn't hear anything like this during the broadcast. What I heard was this:

Commentators:
Had Jaedong paused the game as soon as his lurkers had glitched/hopped into the reef barrier, then Kespa possibly might have offered a regame, if they believed the mistake was rather due to the map, than to Jaedong. However, because JD did not request a pause during the game, and instead played on, it was impossible to offer a regame because he had already lost and it would have been disadvantageous to Baby.

In summary, the crucial distinction was that JD did not request the pause right after the incident occured; that was his mistake. However, even if he had requested the pause, Kespa might have turned him down anyway, possibly saying that it was his fault he morphed his hydras so close to map artifacts.

So, am I wrong? Did Kespa actually offer JD a regame?
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 15 2010 06:31 GMT
#826
On March 12 2010 20:12 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 20:10 Devolved wrote:
On March 12 2010 20:01 MrHoon wrote:
If jaedong didn't attack

Jaedong could've asked for a regame (which the refs would've allowed)

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

lol, what are you talking about? They don't allow a regame for morphing a lurk in a spot where it could possibly wall-hop. They don't re-game when they do it on purpose, so why would they regame if they do it on accident?


Because it is a flaw in the map and that is the rules of Kespa?

Jeezes haven't you guys watched old games where drones would get stuck on ramps in RH3?

ANyways Jaedong didn't type PPP so it's the end
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 15 2010 06:47 GMT
#827
Jaedong fanboys need to quit crying over a game he probably would have lost any ways. And even had he won this game he would have been roflstomped without cheese in set 3 since BaBy's mechanics were so much shaper than Jaedong's at every point in the second game.

Watch the game again I really don't think a 3rd lurker would have helped much at all in that situation. Yea maybe soak up a bit of fire but he didnt even damage the second bunker and barely took down the first with 2 lurkers and lings. BaBy prepared well and Outplayed Jaedong.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
March 15 2010 07:15 GMT
#828
To clarify my translation, I translated it during a live game.
The second the lurkers got stuck, the commentators said "This should be a regame"
Throughout the game they commented how map mistakes such as these isn't anyone's fault.
However as the 1st set ended and during the transition to 2nd set game, the commentators have said "We have to ask the referees about this" and before the ref could get Jaedong's opinion, jaedong just wanted to move on.

So in the end, we will never ever know. So stop making assumptions from both sides.
dats racist
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
March 15 2010 07:56 GMT
#829
just got around to watching these and baby vs jd game 2 was just amazing. I was shaking my head during the muta harass, but when he got to jd's 3rd, the battles were incredible. He used every chance he got to snipe an extra lurker and just built up small edges over time. Baby kept playing better and better and jd looked like he eventually just got tired from having to keep pushing baby back.

I'm so happy baby got to this point. Ever since his debut game (against jd), I've been watching him closely because all the little things he does really add up.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
March 17 2010 08:30 GMT
#830
On March 12 2010 20:20 Samurai- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 20:19 Gumbo wrote:
On March 12 2010 20:18 Samurai- wrote:
On March 12 2010 20:11 MrHoon wrote:
On March 12 2010 20:10 okum wrote:
Looking at the replay, I'm not sure if the extra lurker would have saved the game. Baby had the second bunker, and JD didn't have enough lings to support with.

Obviously he had no chance without it, though.


To defend a Lurker All In you need atleast 3 bunkers
Baby had 2

Jaedong would've won.

You speak with such certainty it makes me sick.. Starcraft is a game where nothing is certain, most people probably would say that hero would won game 3 if it was paused..


This is Jaedong.

Whatever, to me it looked like one more lurker wouldnt matter much, but i didnt came here and talk hey, 100% loose for jaedong

Mr hoon..


Q: What do you have to say about the Lurker that got stuck against (T)BaBy?
A: It’s my fault for morphing there. Although it’s disappointing, I would have lost even if it weren’t stuck so I don’t have anything to say.


A lot of people here were like "jaedong would win bla bla bla".. Here it is, from Jaedong him self. Please stop being so "certain", thanks..
One ring, to rule them all!
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
March 19 2010 02:50 GMT
#831
Suprising to see Jaedong not pass this Group. Unfortunate for the glitched lurker. Having 1 more lurker may have broken Baby's front defenses.

With Jaedong out, Protoss won't be instantly eliminated anymore. That's good since I like to see more of Flash's TvP rather than his TvZ which we know is already godly.
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zFly
Profile Joined May 2009
United States75 Posts
March 19 2010 04:11 GMT
#832
Terran is definitely imba. Needs 1.17
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
March 19 2010 05:06 GMT
#833
On March 19 2010 13:11 zFly wrote:
Terran is definitely imba. Needs 1.17

People definitely would have said that about toss a few years ago and zerg a few months ago. All during 1.16. So, please shut up about racial imbalance.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
March 20 2010 12:10 GMT
#834
It was a map mistake, but it could be have been prevented by JD.
This mindless fanboyism is annoying.
Baby deserved to win
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
March 20 2010 14:45 GMT
#835
On March 19 2010 14:06 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2010 13:11 zFly wrote:
Terran is definitely imba. Needs 1.17

People definitely would have said that about toss a few years ago and zerg a few months ago. All during 1.16. So, please shut up about racial imbalance.


Zerg is the best race in the game atm.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 20 2010 15:10 GMT
#836
Yeah I mean what with the four zerg players in both finals recently and the dominance of zergs in PL/WL.

waaaaaaait
Remember Violet.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-20 17:56:34
March 20 2010 17:55 GMT
#837

Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
April 18 2010 03:01 GMT
#838
Hello, is JD out?
nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
April 18 2010 03:35 GMT
#839
yes, losing in the Ro36 --> out of the OSL. to get into the next one, hell have to go through offline preliminaries
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