On March 15 2010 11:50 dukethegold wrote:
In this case, Jaedong simply said "no" to the offer of a regame. Then he lost the 2nd set. GG. Kespa hardly at fault.

i totally dont understand why JD got offered a rematch unless KESPA screwed him by using a diff version of the map.

anch

United States5457 Posts

March 15 2010 05:46 GMT

#822

Are there source for giving a re-match, not because he is some champion that gives them TV ratings?
If he rematch the game that would seriously fucked their mindset.

This faulty AI is same as reaver shooting a scarab, what the fuck can the player do about it? Other than unit placements. If Protosses were to miss a scarab and given re's then hell would raise.

Chen

United States6344 Posts

March 15 2010 06:14 GMT

#823

On March 15 2010 14:46 anch wrote:
Are there source for giving a re-match, not because he is some champion that gives them TV ratings?
If he rematch the game that would seriously fucked their mindset.

This faulty AI is same as reaver shooting a scarab, what the fuck can the player do about it? Other than unit placements. If Protosses were to miss a scarab and given re's then hell would raise.

seriously >.> at least the mistake jaedong made is avoidable, just dont morph lurkers next to doodads that can fuck with their AI. completely dont understand why jaedong gets a rematch option while everyone else whos had a random fuck-up doesnt. wasnt there a time where a lurk got trapped between a cliff and a critter and died cause of it? that person didnt get a regame did he?

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

March 15 2010 06:24 GMT

#824

that was against boxer :O so ofc not!!

Wings

United States999 Posts

March 15 2010 06:28 GMT

#825

On March 15 2010 11:50 dukethegold wrote:
In this case, Jaedong simply said "no" to the offer of a regame. Then he lost the 2nd set. GG. Kespa hardly at fault.

???????
I'm sorry, where did you hear this information? I speak fluent Korean and I didn't hear anything like this during the broadcast. What I heard was this:

Commentators:
Had Jaedong paused the game as soon as his lurkers had glitched/hopped into the reef barrier, then Kespa possibly might have offered a regame, if they believed the mistake was rather due to the map, than to Jaedong. However, because JD did not request a pause during the game, and instead played on, it was impossible to offer a regame because he had already lost and it would have been disadvantageous to Baby.

In summary, the crucial distinction was that JD did not request the pause right after the incident occured; that was his mistake. However, even if he had requested the pause, Kespa might have turned him down anyway, possibly saying that it was his fault he morphed his hydras so close to map artifacts.

So, am I wrong? Did Kespa actually offer JD a regame?

Harem

United States11390 Posts

March 15 2010 06:31 GMT

#826

On March 12 2010 20:12 MrHoon wrote:

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Because it is a flaw in the map and that is the rules of Kespa?

Jeezes haven't you guys watched old games where drones would get stuck on ramps in RH3?

ANyways Jaedong didn't type PPP so it's the end

Shotcoder

United States2316 Posts

March 15 2010 06:47 GMT

#827

Jaedong fanboys need to quit crying over a game he probably would have lost any ways. And even had he won this game he would have been roflstomped without cheese in set 3 since BaBy's mechanics were so much shaper than Jaedong's at every point in the second game.

Watch the game again I really don't think a 3rd lurker would have helped much at all in that situation. Yea maybe soak up a bit of fire but he didnt even damage the second bunker and barely took down the first with 2 lurkers and lings. BaBy prepared well and Outplayed Jaedong.

MrHoon

10183 Posts

March 15 2010 07:15 GMT

#828

To clarify my translation, I translated it during a live game.
The second the lurkers got stuck, the commentators said "This should be a regame"
Throughout the game they commented how map mistakes such as these isn't anyone's fault.
However as the 1st set ended and during the transition to 2nd set game, the commentators have said "We have to ask the referees about this" and before the ref could get Jaedong's opinion, jaedong just wanted to move on.

So in the end, we will never ever know. So stop making assumptions from both sides.

Vivi57

United States6599 Posts

March 15 2010 07:56 GMT

#829

just got around to watching these and baby vs jd game 2 was just amazing. I was shaking my head during the muta harass, but when he got to jd's 3rd, the battles were incredible. He used every chance he got to snipe an extra lurker and just built up small edges over time. Baby kept playing better and better and jd looked like he eventually just got tired from having to keep pushing baby back.

I'm so happy baby got to this point. Ever since his debut game (against jd), I've been watching him closely because all the little things he does really add up.

Samurai-

Slovenia2035 Posts

March 17 2010 08:30 GMT

#830

On March 12 2010 20:20 Samurai- wrote:

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Whatever, to me it looked like one more lurker wouldnt matter much, but i didnt came here and talk hey, 100% loose for jaedong

Mr hoon..

Q: What do you have to say about the Lurker that got stuck against (T)BaBy?
A: It’s my fault for morphing there. Although it’s disappointing, I would have lost even if it weren’t stuck so I don’t have anything to say.

A lot of people here were like "jaedong would win bla bla bla".. Here it is, from Jaedong him self. Please stop being so "certain", thanks..

[X]Ken_D

United States4650 Posts

March 19 2010 02:50 GMT

#831

Suprising to see Jaedong not pass this Group. Unfortunate for the glitched lurker. Having 1 more lurker may have broken Baby's front defenses.

With Jaedong out, Protoss won't be instantly eliminated anymore. That's good since I like to see more of Flash's TvP rather than his TvZ which we know is already godly.

zFly

United States75 Posts

March 19 2010 04:11 GMT

#832

Terran is definitely imba. Needs 1.17

Wings

United States999 Posts

March 19 2010 05:06 GMT

#833

On March 19 2010 13:11 zFly wrote:
Terran is definitely imba. Needs 1.17

People definitely would have said that about toss a few years ago and zerg a few months ago. All during 1.16. So, please shut up about racial imbalance.

MidKnight

Lithuania884 Posts

March 20 2010 12:10 GMT

#834

It was a map mistake, but it could be have been prevented by JD.
This mindless fanboyism is annoying.
Baby deserved to win

RoieTRS

United States2569 Posts

March 20 2010 14:45 GMT

#835

On March 19 2010 14:06 Wings wrote:

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People definitely would have said that about toss a few years ago and zerg a few months ago. All during 1.16. So, please shut up about racial imbalance.

Zerg is the best race in the game atm.