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I'm gonna be NerDCraFt :-D
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You are right about tarson
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In_Dove still using his DeepSleep account
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sMi.l10f :D well I guess yuo dont have to add me because my name is already in the act name.
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Seemed like a pretty good Zerg.
Last season supposedly TheZerg (A+), randomed vs me.
Probably no one, but uploading it anyway (A- last season)
Probably no one again, but uploading just in case.
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Circa[FuN] <--- that will be me this season.
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rlvmxm: Sse[kal]
guld: n.die_soo
MKS2: Rarity
Rex.Pluto: Clare
wlsgmdrkrehrl: EunByul
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im SAS.zimp on iccup.
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guld - n.die_soo - reset? or did he transfer?
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I find it funny n.die_soo couldn't keep his money down when he had the toss contained and was ahead in supply.
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o.o I played some korean who claimed he was stork.....message me for rep to confirm him, last season he was like B rank with only 13 losses
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B rank with "only" 13 losses?
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Stork shouldn't lose any games on the way to B. And why the new account avsy?
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firearrow = 45[name] according to zimp
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Post more games vs these crazy koreans.
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anyone got any idea who wehrmacht2010 is? he beat me sooo badly it's not even funny
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aresclan is not sepirose, its Ares[Master]
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On March 05 2010 10:28 zimp wrote:
aresclan is not sepirose, its Ares[Master]
Whoops, maybe I shouldn't add people from previous iccup who is who threads...
You didn't know who pojuqueen was? Maybe he's nobody known but he seemed good and was A- with 69-8. Have more reps if it wasn't enough.
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Hey Shauni you should move In_dove to SKT1, he is no longer retired.
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guy named hwasung. is 3-0 right now, his profile shows he was A+ two seasons ago, A rank last season, just creamed me. not sure who he is.
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On March 05 2010 12:20 Newguy wrote:
guy named hwasung. is 3-0 right now, his profile shows he was A+ two seasons ago, A rank last season, just creamed me. not sure who he is.
The only way someone can help you is if you upload the replay, without that its pretty useless unless they know them.
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On March 05 2010 08:27 KwarK wrote:
Stork shouldn't lose any games on the way to B. And why the new account avsy?
Well he claimed to be stork and was definitely korean, although i think he was just full of shit, but nonetheless he wasn't that bad.
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I've always been curious how you find out who a player is? Based on their hotkeys? Anyway, I'm InHale[AoV]
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people have common tendency and if you recognize these pattens you can tell. Some are harder but some people have really distinct patterns.
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I'll post this early in the topic so hopefully most people see it cause this question gets asked alot.
How hotkeys are identified:
You can clearly see the hotkeys are almost identical between in_dove and deepsleep.1. There are more things to check than just the look but this should give you the basic idea.
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it might look identical but if you look closely theres some differences too especially spamming patterns
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myundokal means shaving blade/razor
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On March 05 2010 08:27 KwarK wrote:
Stork shouldn't lose any games on the way to B. And why the new account avsy?
it's very possible that he played A rank Korean pros at the B and C ranks. Look at Idra's start to last season: 16-15 at D to start, all against Koreans.
it would make since that he would change his name if he felt that it wouldn't allow him to find any games.
That being said, I don't think Stork would ever say "i am Stork." he might if you were able to recognize his playstyle, but i can't see why such a high tier progamer would give away his alias.
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qleka = fs.rain
On March 05 2010 12:20 Newguy wrote:
guy named hwasung. is 3-0 right now, his profile shows he was A+ two seasons ago, A rank last season, just creamed me. not sure who he is.
probably midas, but post replay to be sure.
myundokal = gosi[flying]
Shauni: please add those accounts too which were resetted or transferred away from. because, 1: people might find from matchlist that they played a progamer, 2: it helps me sometimes when looking back names. thanks. pajuQueen i dont know.
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On March 05 2010 21:15 zimp wrote:
myundokal = gosi[flying]
Haha this is awesome, I was talking on my stream yesterday about how insanely good I think I am at dealing with proxy gates ZvP and expected to beat even Stork if he did it vs me just to have the very next day confirmed I took down an A team toss when he tried it on me. /end brag
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On March 05 2010 21:15 zimp wrote:qleka = fs.rain Show nested quote +On March 05 2010 12:20 Newguy wrote:
guy named hwasung. is 3-0 right now, his profile shows he was A+ two seasons ago, A rank last season, just creamed me. not sure who he is. probably midas, but post replay to be sure. myundokal = gosi[flying] Shauni: please add those accounts too which were resetted or transferred away from. because, 1: people might find from matchlist that they played a progamer, 2: it helps me sometimes when looking back names. thanks. pajuQueen i dont know.
ok!
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Hey Shauni you can quote me and copy paste it, it makes it easier finding players on a specific team.
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Lol Oystein you played against Gosl[flying] I noticed, and won - Ling rush it looks like?
Edit: Whoops didn't see your post about it, my bad - well done anyway!
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EunByul -> NsP_Pokju
he no more cjentus
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On March 05 2010 22:58 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey Shauni you can quote me and copy paste it, it makes it easier finding players on a specific team.
I don't understand the use of dividing the nicks into proteams but okay.
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I'm floating around as taco420 or N3rV[402] or N3rV[420]
But I suck, so play me and tell me how much I suck!
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fr = Dear
espana = Sea[Shield]
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hegebokko = oo3[3.33] according to zimp
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EleanorR1gby
playing as EleanorR1gby!!!!
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So Good! OMG fakesteve check this rep out!
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Dunno who he is though. Rhddlrrmsan123 give us a hint
Also who is better? Rhddlrrmsan vs ljh711 Showmatch gogo! I have my money on ljh711 ^_^
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dldjvhs = hwata[sam]
penguin. = suny[fou]
hemosu9999 = Sea.Really
A.X = Clare of course.
eigenclan and dhssnfl are also somebody probably, but im not sure/don't know.
rhddlrrmsan = kt.mgw)protoss aka NsP_Chivalry aka Defy[Shield] yes.
dystmdwo = Firefist
gu9gu9 = Upmagic
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On March 05 2010 21:30 Oystein wrote:Haha this is awesome, I was talking on my stream yesterday about how insanely good I think I am at dealing with proxy gates ZvP and expected to beat even Stork if he did it vs me just to have the very next day confirmed I took down an A team toss when he tried it on me. /end brag
replay pls?
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On March 07 2010 21:19 zimp wrote:
dldjvhs = hwata[sam]
penguin. = suny[fou]
hemosu9999 = Sea.Really
A.X = Clare of course.
eigenclan and dhssnfl are also somebody probably, but im not sure/don't know.
rhddlrrmsan = kt.mgw)protoss aka NsP_Chivalry aka Defy[Shield] yes.
dystmdwo = Firefist
gu9gu9 = Upmagic
Chavi[Name] and by.trap
19tlrks = say[join]
Sharper = dear[scm]
bbd = hon_sin
CNBLUE = Violet
island = Grape
EnfjQjd = Tempest
Evan.Lysacek = Canata
Sosiyoona = by.maru
HegeBokko = oo3[3.33]
RkRnd = Secret
Rancidshit = Revival[ScM]
prague = Part[White]
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HOLY SHIT
Romad just raped the thread.
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On March 08 2010 01:56 Pokebunny wrote:
HOLY SHIT
Romad just raped the thread.
you mean byposting akas like he usually does?
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LOL at canata pretending to be a foreigner
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On March 08 2010 01:56 Pokebunny wrote:
HOLY SHIT
Romad just raped the thread.
nah, the thread was raped by Clare 
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Just a question guys, how do u recognise players from replays?
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On March 08 2010 03:52 ProoM wrote:
Just a question guys, how do u recognise players from replays?
Hotkeys 
Pretty sure M.J.02.05 is dOTY (german toss)
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Missed one replay:
rhqpfmaks = n.die_soo
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On March 08 2010 03:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:i love you
Can you re-upload them somewhere else, limit has been reached 
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On March 08 2010 04:23 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:Can you re-upload them somewhere else, limit has been reached
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On March 08 2010 04:29 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 04:23 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:On March 08 2010 03:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:i love you Can you re-upload them somewhere else, limit has been reached [url blocked]
Thank you! clare is amazing
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On March 08 2010 04:00 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 03:52 ProoM wrote:
Just a question guys, how do u recognise players from replays? Hotkeys Pretty sure M.J.02.05 is dOTY (german toss)
Hotkeys? Really? What if there's a lot of players who uses same hotkey setups (I'm sure there are) ?What if the players are offracing o.0?
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On March 08 2010 05:10 ProoM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 04:00 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:On March 08 2010 03:52 ProoM wrote:
Just a question guys, how do u recognise players from replays? Hotkeys Pretty sure M.J.02.05 is dOTY (german toss) Hotkeys? Really? What if there's a lot of players who uses same hotkey setups (I'm sure there are) ?What if the players are offracing o.0?
It's never 100%, but usually if they are from same country, play same race, and have same hotkeys (throughout the whole game) then there is a good chance its the same person.
If you have the chance to view the hotkeys of some1 playing a 15-20 minute game, you'll see it would probably be a lot different than a majority of the other players playing that same race. But as a said before, its just the best way to do it, its not perfect.
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On March 08 2010 05:33 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 05:10 ProoM wrote:On March 08 2010 04:00 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:On March 08 2010 03:52 ProoM wrote:
Just a question guys, how do u recognise players from replays? Hotkeys Pretty sure M.J.02.05 is dOTY (german toss) Hotkeys? Really? What if there's a lot of players who uses same hotkey setups (I'm sure there are) ?What if the players are offracing o.0? It's never 100%, but usually if they are from same country, play same race, and have same hotkeys (throughout the whole game) then there is a good chance its the same person. If you have the chance to view the hotkeys of some1 playing a 15-20 minute game, you'll see it would probably be a lot different than a majority of the other players playing that same race. But as a said before, its just the best way to do it, its not perfect.
I'm sure in korea, there are at least 5000 people for each hotkey setup, am I wrong?
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On March 08 2010 05:45 ProoM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 05:33 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:On March 08 2010 05:10 ProoM wrote:On March 08 2010 04:00 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:On March 08 2010 03:52 ProoM wrote:
Just a question guys, how do u recognise players from replays? Hotkeys Pretty sure M.J.02.05 is dOTY (german toss) Hotkeys? Really? What if there's a lot of players who uses same hotkey setups (I'm sure there are) ?What if the players are offracing o.0? It's never 100%, but usually if they are from same country, play same race, and have same hotkeys (throughout the whole game) then there is a good chance its the same person. If you have the chance to view the hotkeys of some1 playing a 15-20 minute game, you'll see it would probably be a lot different than a majority of the other players playing that same race. But as a said before, its just the best way to do it, its not perfect. I'm sure in korea, there are at least 5000 people for each hotkey setup, am I wrong?
Yes, you are wrong.
What he means is, you can view their exact hotkey pattern, not just a vague general setup. You look at the game timings of when this player hotkeys his units/buildings , and when he switches those hotkeys around. Compare those with the progamer , and those timings match up. Anyone can use the general hotkeys, but most players are unique in the timings that they set each key.
Go ahead and take some of these replays in this thread, and compare them with a replay of the pro-gamer they have been matched up to be. Look at the hotkey patterns and similarities. It's actually really accurate.
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Hotkey'ing timings differs depending on various game situations, matchup (obviously), game style he chosed to play that game. That's why I'm curious about how accurate this list is ;P, does it have ~70% accuracy (would be pretty accurate then).
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thank you, clare
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On March 08 2010 07:05 ProoM wrote:
Hotkey'ing timings differs depending on various game situations, matchup (obviously), game style he chosed to play that game. That's why I'm curious about how accurate this list is ;P, does it have ~70% accuracy (would be pretty accurate then).
Other things factor in such as general APM and spam patterns of the hotkeys etc. They wouldn't post an a.k.a unless they were quite sure it was the correct one.
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i got raped by a progamer once i think. it was some korean dude with strange name and 350 apm o.O and he owned me in his first push
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Could someone upload Clare reppack somewhere else plz?
can't access to megaupload.com in China T.T
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hm? I haven't been on TL for 2 weeks but I've hardly quit playing.
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how do get to meet the pros and vs them? whats ur race and rank?
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On March 08 2010 17:02 LuckyFool wrote:hm? I haven't been on TL for 2 weeks but I've hardly quit playing.
I thought I read a blog you made about quitting D:
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On March 08 2010 17:18 selboN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 17:02 LuckyFool wrote:hm? I haven't been on TL for 2 weeks but I've hardly quit playing. I thought I read a blog you made about quitting D:
really did you bother to check a date? thats old lol
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On March 08 2010 17:19 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 17:18 selboN wrote:On March 08 2010 17:02 LuckyFool wrote:hm? I haven't been on TL for 2 weeks but I've hardly quit playing. I thought I read a blog you made about quitting D: really did you bother to check a date? thats old lol
>.< Guess not. Thought it was during the influx of "i quit" threads. Was it not at the same time as AttackZerg quitting and LighT dying?
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why are you asking me when there is a search function?
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On March 05 2010 03:16 Sprite wrote:
Circa[FuN] <--- that will be me this season.
LOL yes Team [FuN] member on who is who YES!!
Drums[FuN] <---------------- Me
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to the op:
Chavi's and Trap's accounts are mixed up, its the other way.
also By.Maru is an amateur toss, and is different from only.maru the ex zerg progamer.
i looked through Clare's pack and found these in addition:
1304 - luxury
akwlakrrudrh - ruian
djfWkdtleo - brave
chltndms - hyuk
dbswnvkf - by.rage
braq-.- - fs.rain
keke12 - m18m (edit: um.. more zerg games on this so probably shared)
dlddu - if.classic
there are probably more... i guess roMAD will find.
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btw why are there SO many transfers?
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they might be more familiar with this thread now, who knows maybe they check it to see if we've found them
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because you guy find the pro gamer aka lol
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is evan lysacek a person or something?
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On March 09 2010 07:37 jimminy_kriket wrote:
is evan lysacek a person or something?
Yeah, Lysacek is the American figure skater who took home a controversial gold at the 2010 Winter Olympics.
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who is HomRunWang?
69-11 1st rank
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isnt it obvious?
Edit: K i dont feel like being a dick, but we have 0 idea unless someone posts a replay. So its useless to ask without a replay
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On March 05 2010 03:16 Sprite wrote:
Circa[FuN] <--- that will be me this season.
Thats so cute circa!
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withu = TheZerg[Alive]
infinitegame = By.IrOn
akwlakrrudrh = Dream.t)OriOn
JotBBONG = Bisu[Shield]
vorxhfl = MyDream[S.O]
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yes i owned bisu[shield] and he 57-53 C+ right now
lol
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How is JotBBONG Bisu? Why is his record so mediocre?
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someone re-upload the NEW one
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On March 10 2010 02:25 Kaervek56 wrote:chava reuploaded it Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 04:29 littlechava wrote:On March 08 2010 04:23 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:On March 08 2010 03:41 zulu_nation8 wrote:i love you Can you re-upload them somewhere else, limit has been reached [url blocked]
yea, he reuploaded a pack, that had been posted on 9 March, on 8 March
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yes please reupload the new one :x
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On March 10 2010 02:47 littlechava wrote:
yes please reupload the new one :x
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error ~_~ , nim can you upload again?
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Re-upload:
[url blocked]
.VivaLaVida = By.Tyson
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Hmm it is bisu...ultra who are you?
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Clare is simply awesome!Thx for the reps <3
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On March 10 2010 03:36 UltraPenguin wrote:
Re-upload:
[url blocked]
.VivaLaVida = By.Tyson
It's unavailable :/
infinitegame is not iron[kal]
edit: nvm it's available now
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Oh really? And why do they have the same name then? They are the same person.
Dotoly = nsp_yeongjae
Hottist and HeraClass = 815
4.17 = tossgirl
Sea.Sandara = By.Barracks AND FlaSh (no kidding)
operahouse = hero[kas]
gkrgywls = creep[s.g]
ehtjrhksdptj = ever)t(eunbyul
whdzh = odin[gm]
skguswjd. = ssak[kal]
and zimp missed bejje = sz.hungry
gkfsoatornfql = NsP_Turn
hwasung = ryung[join]
18nomssiggi = nsp_rudy
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ok i updated it, tell me if i did any mistake.
on a sidenote, i played nsp_rudy and he asked if i was swedish top gamer, he liked to talk... and then proceeded to rape me with 2 fac .
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On March 10 2010 05:16 Shauni wrote:ok i updated it, tell me if i did any mistake. on a sidenote, i played nsp_rudy and he asked if i was swedish top gamer, he liked to talk... and then proceeded to rape me with 2 fac .
akwlakrrudrh is listed twice as Ruian and Orion. It's Ruian as zimp said.
infinitegame is not by.iron
hero[kas] aka hero[join] is wemadefox progamer.
DOTOLY is listed as Ruby, although it's NsP_yeongjae
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On March 10 2010 02:48 jimminy_kriket wrote:
who is ultrapenguin btw
any reps? that doesn't help
sry bad joke :<
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pdpop is Zerg[KaL], i think somebody had mentioned it before.
kimchi seems to be Wiyeon[saM]
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Wow... jotbbong is really bisu? .. I expected a better record than that lol, and what a weird name (if it means what I think it means).
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On March 10 2010 07:01 YoonHo wrote:
Wow... jotbbong is really bisu? .. I expected a better record than that lol, and what a weird name (if it means what I think it means).
Atleast he beat Claire, pretty easy and looked really strong on the game. Might be shared acc ?
Crazy rep pack, everybody should check those. He is korean octzerg.
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Let's hope that its a shared acct or my faint heart might not be able to take it.
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It's all relative and who you play/run into. especially the first week of a season. Like I just went 18-0 on one account but I can just as easily go 4-14 if I run into gosus or play a different map.
I remember last season early on Idra had a losing record at C- and everyone went apeshit. but if u looked at his matchlist he was playing all A ranked koreans multiple times...
Stats mean very little in the first week or two of a season it's literally a crapshoot. I've played A users who have losing records at D+
edit: I do agree though if that's really bisu those stats are rather surprising but not impossible. I'd take a look through his matchlist and see who he's losing to or if he's playing the same ppl over and over.
oh and isn't bisu sucking recently in proleague? I haven't been following progaming recently but I know there's another thread about him. So maybe he is just playing like total trash lately (by bisu standards lol)
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... i think i played tossgirl
are you sure 4.17 is tossgirl?
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I'm probably wrong here but I don't think jotbbong is Bisu. The past a minute in the hotkey patterns from Bisu's wcg reps don't match up with the jotbbong reps.
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Bisu would have to be trying a lot of new stuff and in general messing around. If he played how he would in pro leagues, slump or not, he would destroy iccup. When only a few players in the world are better than you, if that, "luck of the draw" doesn't mean anything.
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On March 10 2010 08:17 Pasay wrote:
I'm probably wrong here but I don't think jotbbong is Bisu. The past a minute in the hotkey patterns from Bisu's wcg reps don't match up with the jotbbong reps.
It's him, the hotkeys are the exact match and yes 4.17 is tossgirl
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Clare im trying to watch all your replays, stop playing so many games!
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Just curious, I thought bisu's apm was like 350, how come it's like 280 from oystein reps? (I believe that it's bisu cuz you guys are amazing at finding out akas, I'm just curious if his apm has been getting lower.)
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Clare is on a pro team and releasing reps? Or is this a different Clare providing replays?
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On March 10 2010 10:26 neVern wrote:
Clare is on a pro team and releasing reps? Or is this a different Clare providing replays?
These are not in-house training replays, just games he plays on iCCup.
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Don't think so, their hotkeys don't match and TT1 apm is like half of that.
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On March 07 2010 08:46 jimminy_kriket wrote:So Good! OMG fakesteve check this rep out!
WTF??!?!?!?
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On March 10 2010 10:43 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:Don't think so, their hotkeys don't match and TT1 apm is like half of that.
it looks kindof like ggplay..
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On March 10 2010 11:17 jimminy_kriket wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2010 10:43 Ares[EffOrt] wrote:Don't think so, their hotkeys don't match and TT1 apm is like half of that. it looks kindof like ggplay..
what do you mean ggplay? he's protoss and foreigner...
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On March 10 2010 05:24 ilj.psa wrote:any reps? that doesn't help sry bad joke :<
haha^^
it's FleSs. Naib: inactive, Davkov is like C. (Rtz.Davkov was FleSs too last season.)
btw (1) is Sziky.
On March 10 2010 05:53 roMAD wrote:
kimchi seems to be Wiyeon[saM]
you meant WarYong[saM] i think
and missed from the pack:
ghtnrhddnjs = Kitty..[gm] aka By.Center
NsP_Turn
thats Gosudark.
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Oh thanks zimp, at least the foreign section got a little bit larger now. If you know anyone else please tell. I dunno who HiveGuard, Gamei[HoN], asdasdasd is for example...
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yea thats gosudark, he's been using that id for a long time
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On December 24 2008 07:09 (paladin)roMAD wrote:
gaemul = PuSan
this account seems to have become active again. I don't have a replay, just noticed it on the top-1v1 list, so I don't have any way of knowing whether it's actually still him. 26-0 (at time of writing) is pretty cool though.
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HomRunWang is Light[aLive] ?
i heard it is him
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can someone upload the replaypack again of clare?
thx yo!
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On March 10 2010 17:15 krndandaman wrote:Hey I saw your posts asking about pikachu[hon] and gamei[hon] I'm pretty sure both aren't progamers (I'm in the hon clan.) I'm not active much, I'm only in the clan because my real life friend is the clan leader. Pikachu might be someone trying to become a progamer or someone who quit being a progamer (which is the case for a few in the clan). I just looked up gamei and apparently he is polish. I only remember 1 polish guy being in the clan and I recall him being A ranked in 2v2. Not sure about his 1v1 but I guess his 1v1 is very good as well? Really doubt any of them are progamers, but I'll ask once I get back on and update. EDIT: btw anyone know who wooricard is? I forgot who he was.
I'm not only asking for progamers, this thread is not just for them.
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On March 10 2010 17:15 krndandaman wrote:
EDIT: btw anyone know who wooricard is?
I forgot who he was. wooricard last season was Light and then an MBC shared account. Could be that again this season. I tried to get a game with him a little bit ago but he left cuz it was lagging in the early game.
edit: that might have been 2 seasons ago now though.
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i dont think Jotbbang is Bisu[Shield] .... C+ with 60 + losses? rofl?
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On March 11 2010 04:14 YoonHo wrote:someone re-upload plz!!
Done.
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On March 11 2010 05:57 kroko wrote:Done. [url blocked]
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On March 11 2010 03:50 ErOs_YasoT wrote:
i dont think Jotbbang is Bisu[Shield] .... C+ with 60 + losses? rofl?
Nope definitely sounds like Bisu[Shield] to me.
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the skt coach's told bisu to take his break after they saw his iccup stats
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Can I just download the most recent Clare pack to get all the reps, or do I need to download them all, or are they all the same?
Thx for the reps Clare, really awesome
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On March 11 2010 09:58 iamtt1 wrote:
the skt coach's told bisu take his break after they saw his iccup stats
nice joke mate r-_-
what was his stats
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dlddjzld is not Fantasy i talk with fantasy
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On March 12 2010 00:37 Nick_54 wrote:
Can I just download the most recent Clare pack to get all the reps, or do I need to download them all, or are they all the same?
Thx for the reps Clare, really awesome
they are all different, and some of the ones he posts seperately are not in the packs
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On March 11 2010 09:58 iamtt1 wrote:
the skt coach's told bisu take his break after they saw his iccup stats
haha nice 1
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ljh711 please replay pack [url blocked] << upload
rapidshare no upload
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does speaking in broken english actually make it easier for koreans to understand or does tt1 just look retarded to them?
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On March 11 2010 03:50 ErOs_YasoT wrote:
i dont think Jotbbang is Bisu[Shield] .... C+ with 60 + losses? rofl?
bisu always try to hide his true identity with free losses
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On March 12 2010 05:36 jimminy_kriket wrote:
does speaking in broken english actually make it easier for koreans to understand or does tt1 just look retarded to them?
from my experience they understand more
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yeah its the same person tt1, do you know who he is?
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hes capi or madguy., family]z[madguy, old a+ player who tvp tvz pvt's and was like 1800 on brainclan but hes mostly a 2v2 player nowdays, hes still a sick 1v1 player
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lol bisu 50%
is he playing with his feet or something?
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dlddjzld is fantasy right
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bboddo = go.go[gsp]
gaemul = Pusan[S.G]
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wow bisu dont only slump in proleague he is 76-83 and he lost to some foreigner not only korean
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hm based on just 1 rep i don't think its fair to bisu , he was bisu in that rep but it could be a share account or something
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yeah it could be. but still it was him so should we not put his name on it? I think that would be foolish.
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On March 13 2010 03:15 ilj.psa wrote:
hm based on just 1 rep i don't think its fair to bisu , he was bisu in that rep but it could be a share account or something
even so in the games vs oystein were it was proven it was him he was playing so bad
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I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not.
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On March 13 2010 06:31 machinehead.. wrote:
I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not.
Bisu is a top tier progamer, I seriously doubt he would play that badly on ICCup unless there's a reason.
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On March 13 2010 06:31 machinehead.. wrote:
I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not.
I and zimp came to a conclusion that it's not Bisu. It's some korean amateur with same hotkeys as Bisu.
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On March 13 2010 06:47 roMAD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 06:31 machinehead.. wrote:
I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not. I and zimp came to a conclusion that it's not Bisu. It's some korean amateur with same hotkeys as Bisu.
Is it cause you refuse to believe that Bisu is that bad, or you legitimately think it's an amateur who copied hotkeys (which is possible)?
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On March 13 2010 06:51 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 06:47 roMAD wrote:On March 13 2010 06:31 machinehead.. wrote:
I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not. I and zimp came to a conclusion that it's not Bisu. It's some korean amateur with same hotkeys as Bisu. Is it cause you refuse to believe that Bisu is that bad, or you legitimately think it's an amateur who copied hotkeys (which is possible)?
The latter. I am too lazy to list all the things we've found suspicious and it's mostly zimp's credit, so i will leave that to him
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hmm ive never seen hotkeys that close before
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dont know but here 1 more of reckoner replays tvz
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I played him tvz last season or something. I don't think there is a "known" Polish terran that doesn't play TVT so any aka is probably just as obscure.
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On March 13 2010 06:31 machinehead.. wrote:
I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not.
Ya actually, speaking of which, I saw a little video few weeks ago of flash, savior and bisu all talking to each other about iCCup. It was an old video but it was still very interesting. Bisu mentioned how he got #1 on PGT server on an account called ILoveJS, which had a sick record. Another interesting thing was that FlaSh was talking about playing some zerg 2-3 times and how sick that zerg was (talked about how each games were about 40 mins). He continued to say that he thought it was jaedong and then eventually they realized that it was sAvior who was the zerg.
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On March 13 2010 09:57 YoonHo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 06:31 machinehead.. wrote:
I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not. Ya actually, speaking of which, I saw a little video few weeks ago of flash, savior and bisu all talking to each other about iCCup. It was an old video but it was still very interesting. Bisu mentioned how he got #1 on PGT server on an account called ILoveJS, which had a sick record. Another interesting thing was that FlaSh was talking about playing some zerg 2-3 times and how sick that zerg was (talked about how each games were about 40 mins). He continued to say that he thought it was jaedong and then eventually they realized that it was sAvior who was the zerg.
I saw that video, which was awesomeness, but I don't remember Bisu's pgt account being brought up. But yeah, before anyone really knew who bisu was, he absolutely destroyed PGT, and then a few months later it become apparent why he destroyed PGT, as he went on to destroy pro league. I hear jaedong doesn't play ladders
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ive always wondered who reckoner was
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i dont know many 400apm protoss players. Care to list any so i can check?
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On March 13 2010 06:53 roMAD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 06:51 Roffles wrote:On March 13 2010 06:47 roMAD wrote:On March 13 2010 06:31 machinehead.. wrote:
I still have the image in my head of Bisu being olympic rank on PGT with the sickest record ever, and most pros played then too. From olympic rank with like less than 20 losses to not even being able to get out of the C ranks. Tell me it's a joke. Would be beyond depressing if not. I and zimp came to a conclusion that it's not Bisu. It's some korean amateur with same hotkeys as Bisu. Is it cause you refuse to believe that Bisu is that bad, or you legitimately think it's an amateur who copied hotkeys (which is possible)? The latter. I am too lazy to list all the things we've found suspicious and it's mostly zimp's credit, so i will leave that to him
i asked for his reps from sziky and he said jugded by his play its no way that its bisu. i was already suspicious because of his record and the fact that bisu is on holiday, so i spent quite some time analizing the details of bisu's hotkeys and jotbbong's hotkeys and found some minor differences in the usage.
if anyone interested, the differences are (i hope jotbbong doesn't read this):
-jotbbong's apm/eapm is lower by ~50-30 compared to bisu's practice matches.
-his 6 gw spam is harder
-he doesnt collect hts on 4 like bisu does
-he uses 6-7-8-9 more precisely than bisu
-he doesnt slide stargate to 7 after 6 in pvz when only having 1 sg
-his probe assign spam is weaker and always assigns 4 probes on 1 at start while bisu does that with the nexus most of the time.
-i also noticed that bisu has a bit different hotkeys in his recent iccup replays and i thought its a mark of lazyness, but romad told me he intentionally changes them a bit in public ladder games so he is less recognizable. its quite funny. jotbbong didn't do this.
in addition a guy i know wrote to him on iccup before:
'i think i know who you are'
answer:
'MY HOTKEY IS BISU OK'
'but I'm not bisu'
lol
btw its still a very good copy. only way he could do that i think, is that he sat down, looked at bisu reps in bwchart, and studied the small details, plus he watched bisu's games checking the hotkeys ingame. only this way its possible i think that he massassigs probes with somewhat of the same logic, or slides the shuttle 2-3->3->4, or puts gw from 5 to 6 some small time before observer pops out to take its hotkey on 5, just to say some expamples. i cant imagine that these stuff like he puts his corsairs to 0 when theres no more hotkey for units are matching by blind chance. the basic pattern's sameness is already a big deal, but these are small details. whats more, the pattern looks like bisu to the eye, which is probably the hardest: to maintain the right amount of spam. i dont know how much time he might have spent on practicing this, but its quite impressive to me. whats more, he is able to maintain a decent ~A- skill. and bisu's hotkeys are much harder to copy then oov's imo (zero). you might try to copy his keys, you will fail to something like this:
http://sc.ygosu.com/replay/download.yg?idx=69136
i should organise a bisu-hotkey copying tour lol.
ah one last thing id like to say: fu jotbbong for fooling me^^
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reckoner is just an unknown polish T, he's used that aka for like 10 iccup seasons - I 2-0'd him before, but he's gotten good...
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I love how this thread is like Sherlock Holmes. I enjoy reading it, with everyone coming up with their conclusions and arguments <3!
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the "unknown polish T" happens to be SzajnA and he is really good nowadays ;]
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Terran is by.me (oscar[white])!!! He's still playing, great!
edit: don't know the toss sorry lol
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On March 13 2010 11:53 jimminy_kriket wrote:
i dont know many 400apm protoss players. Care to list any so i can check?
i have 390-420 xD
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roMAD Thanks Have a nice day ^^
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thanks my gifts
dl - dear[scm] estro
ttukbaegi - maestro[kal] skt1
homealone2 - bisu[shield] skt1
ekrcu12 - n.die_jaehoon mbc
vktmxk - kaze_Windy khan
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some D- guy got to play bisu. Thats depressing.
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I was wondering...how do you comfirm IDs?
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crazy intense hotkey pattern analysis. Read the thread early on there are posts about it.
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MyDream[S.O] no more Lecaf Oz
rpaqmffj = Goomeho[fOu] semi-pro
hs2[z-zOne] = Choya[fOu] before CJ-pro
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dear = both sharper and dl?
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United States11390 Posts
On March 16 2010 11:00 doopi33 wrote:
MyDream[S.O] no more Lecaf Oz
Do you have a source for this?
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he say me out in ozteam
no more hope progamer.
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I love these Korean guys and their comments on this thread lol.
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I think more and more koreans are finding out about this thread...
this is both good and bad... lol.
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On March 16 2010 13:59 doopi33 wrote:
he say me out in ozteam
no more hope progamer.
to think that former/current SC pro's know of TL.
mind boggling
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misleading stats, he 4 pool me 2 games rofl
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eros_Testie = testie[mgw]
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On March 19 2010 04:47 ilj.psa wrote:
eros_Testie = testie[mgw]
isn't that self-explanatory? I won't add nicks that just change clantags.
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well just wanted to bump this ;/
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After the retirment from tot) and mouz from the iccup league D: im to disapointed to even play iccup
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On March 20 2010 11:46 hp.Methos wrote:
hp.Methos <--------- Me
no way!
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stork replay was good. thx!
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who is thdqudtls? icc rank 3
not flash
who is dlrjgkskfh? 80% b+
replay sorry T.T
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It's too hard to tell without the replay.
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On March 20 2010 22:48 agoodyear wrote:who is thdqudtls? icc rank 3 not flash who is dlrjgkskfh? 80% b+ replay sorry T.T
no replay = no aka sorry
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hahaha
[GanziDream] - Rudy (amateur)
Betting, stork0804 - Clare
Ruido still Sair
dont know gnejfejf nor dnfdusl. "prolly amas"
op: dotoly-> listed twice. waryong-> retired pro, not amateur. rest ok.
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ok!
by the way how do you make url links with nicks like [GanziDream]? The tags mess up...
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United States11390 Posts
On March 21 2010 03:32 Shauni wrote:
ok!
by the way how do you make url links with nicks like [GanziDream]? The tags mess up...
Use TinyURL to link to them.
http://tinyurl.com/yarfjbo
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can't confirm higame's names tho.
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Watch the replays, he fucking outmicroed me hard...
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thx for uploading them all
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Wow this guy is amazing. His reppack would be the most entertaining sc thing ever
It's a pity you didn't try Zerg vs him. I wonder what kind of cheese he has in store...
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he dual proxy gated in front of me every game and I was always unable to stop it :S
In the first two PvPs I went 2gate after seeing it of course, but I guess he just outmicroed me.
In the third PvP I sent 5-6 probes to try to kill his first gateway before his zealot popped, but it popped just in time! >_< I lost a couple probes and was always behind after that.
In the first TvP I went to wallin, and he probe/zeal rushed me, and my first tank was extremely late. He had 3 goons 2 zeals when it popped(bad SCV micro/usage and didn't build my factory at 200/100).
In the second TvP I assumed he would rush so I went 8rax, and he probe rushed again, killing off like 3 or 4 SCVs when I shouldn't have let him, then I was always just behind and it went downhill from there.
I asked him what team he played for, but he said he couldn't tell me that =[
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We're not listing TL members here anymore and even when we did it was only if you were playing on a different aka than your TL name.
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On March 23 2010 15:43 Grobyc wrote:
he dual proxy gated in front of me every game and I was always unable to stop it :S
In the first two PvPs I went 2gate after seeing it of course, but I guess he just outmicroed me.
In the third PvP I sent 5-6 probes to try to kill his first gateway before his zealot popped, but it popped just in time! >_< I lost a couple probes and was always behind after that.
In the first TvP I went to wallin, and he probe/zeal rushed me, and my first tank was extremely late. He had 3 goons 2 zeals when it popped(bad SCV micro/usage and didn't build my factory at 200/100).
In the second TvP I assumed he would rush so I went 8rax, and he probe rushed again, killing off like 3 or 4 SCVs when I shouldn't have let him, then I was always just behind and it went downhill from there.
I asked him what team he played for, but he said he couldn't tell me that =[
Whoa, just watched the replays and wow... just wow. so damn good lol. Maybe after you asked him what team he was on he stopped playing on that aka?
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On March 24 2010 00:58 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2010 15:43 Grobyc wrote:
he dual proxy gated in front of me every game and I was always unable to stop it :S
In the first two PvPs I went 2gate after seeing it of course, but I guess he just outmicroed me.
In the third PvP I sent 5-6 probes to try to kill his first gateway before his zealot popped, but it popped just in time! >_< I lost a couple probes and was always behind after that.
In the first TvP I went to wallin, and he probe/zeal rushed me, and my first tank was extremely late. He had 3 goons 2 zeals when it popped(bad SCV micro/usage and didn't build my factory at 200/100).
In the second TvP I assumed he would rush so I went 8rax, and he probe rushed again, killing off like 3 or 4 SCVs when I shouldn't have let him, then I was always just behind and it went downhill from there.
I asked him what team he played for, but he said he couldn't tell me that =[ Whoa, just watched the replays and wow... just wow. so damn good lol. Maybe after you asked him what team he was on he stopped playing on that aka?
haha looks to me like he stopped playing when someone beat him :p
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On March 20 2010 13:39 Foreplay wrote:no way!
way!
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On March 24 2010 05:14 hp.Methos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2010 13:39 Foreplay wrote:On March 20 2010 11:46 hp.Methos wrote:
hp.Methos <--------- Me no way! way!
Orly?
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The corruption is about to end.
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any can say me who is PajuQueen ? Is Zerg
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sorkwkd12 was already said to be bogus
ibelongtojesus is saint
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game vs operahouse, currently 33-0 C+, 180 eAPM, it's me playing him in PvZ, i go for a weird build (DA --> goon temp timing attack at 11-12 minutes off 2 base, but he kills me with a hydra timing attack at about 8 minutes before I could get psi storm out.
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=33968
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altmxj - by.actually
cledor - s2
jodalgu - koala
mbchero16 - clare
operahouse - hero[join], but its already in the op.
saint, bogus missing from the op.
arash i dont know/not sure, its someone offracing probably.
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i updated it, for some reason tlpdize doesnt seem to work atm, will fix later on.
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Bomtory -
sO.Oq -
[strong] - (probably to short)
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i think he did lol. heard he plays protoss in sc2 beta.
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who is www.ygosu?
who is TerranCraft?
transfer sorkWkd12 -> ??
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you need replay to ask who is someone O_o
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It's going to be hard to tell. The Zim at WCG played Zerg-Then-Protoss, whereas this guy is exclusively terran, so hotkey analysis won't work.
I do hope this is part of a cunning revenge plan, where he's in training to face off against JD in the next WCG, as the ranking Azerbaijani Protoss-then-Terran gosu...
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On April 19 2010 20:15 Aim Here wrote:It's going to be hard to tell. The Zim at WCG played Zerg-Then-Protoss, whereas this guy is exclusively terran, so hotkey analysis won't work. I do hope this is part of a cunning revenge plan, where he's in training to face off against JD in the next WCG, as the ranking Azerbaijani Protoss-then-Terran gosu...
it would work but zim_ was way too bad for b rank.
you can add magmu1 as Nal_ra
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I have a rep of zim played early in the season. he was really bad I won really easily... how the hell is he halfway to B+ now lmao.
it can't be the real zim though. real zim couldn't get C- right? :O
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920506 was identified in previous season as BaBy, currently 72-4 on iccup. Isn't listed on page 1
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On April 20 2010 00:53 LuckyFool wrote:
I have a rep of zim played early in the season. he was really bad I won really easily... how the hell is he halfway to B+ now lmao.
it can't be the real zim though. real zim couldn't get C- right? :O
you have to ask? just go rewatch jd vs him lol
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On April 20 2010 17:02 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 00:53 LuckyFool wrote:
I have a rep of zim played early in the season. he was really bad I won really easily... how the hell is he halfway to B+ now lmao.
it can't be the real zim though. real zim couldn't get C- right? :O you have to ask? just go rewatch jd vs him lol he was offracing in that game vs JD though, a C- zerg user could have D protoss.
when does the season end? anyone know? I know it's gotta be soon.
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Well no player thats above D level would switch races randomly in a WCG match vs jaedong, and he looked like a D- protoss that lacked even a basic understanding of the game. Apparently he made his pylon at 7 or something, and 1 gate tech on Tau Cross? no that guy definitely D-
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BehindStory -> Neo.G_Mercury SK Trainee
dlwjdgns -> Neo.G_Kwak MBCGAME HERO Pro
SevenEleven -> YellOw[Name] right ?
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On April 26 2010 12:38 doopi33 wrote:
BehindStory -> Neo.G_Mercury SK Trainee
dlwjdgns -> Neo.G_Kwak MBCGAME HERO Pro
SevenEleven -> YellOw[Name] right ?
On March 21 2010 01:13 roMAD wrote:
no replay = no aka sorry
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jelly-3- -> ever)t(eunbyul offracing
smart[s.g] -> clare[shield]
ehlsmssha -> brave[s.g]
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heh I got a better ELO than most of them
progammers suck
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(im 1230)
(that was ap athetic joke attempt)
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On May 04 2010 08:44 zimp wrote:
jelly-3- -> ever)t(eunbyul offracing
I really doubt it -_-
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On May 04 2010 17:34 roMAD wrote:I really doubt it -_-
eunbyul had a name "4ja-0-"
but yea it might be wrong.
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Idra: Protoss
Best: Yes
hauhauahauh
epic
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On May 05 2010 18:10 zimp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2010 17:34 roMAD wrote:On May 04 2010 08:44 zimp wrote:
jelly-3- -> ever)t(eunbyul offracing I really doubt it -_- eunbyul had a name "4ja-0-" but yea it might be wrong.
Hotkeys don't exactly match and all his games are as Protoss
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that toss reminds me of horang2 style of play, im not saying its him btw
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man romad is just too good lol
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everguild - yeongjae
404. i don't know
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404. = Say[jOin]
akfvkfrn = KT Sense
skahtgksek = Jangbi
qlrvkdl can't tell sorry
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Someone translate yeongjae vs clare?
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On May 12 2010 00:50 roMAD wrote:
404. = Say[jOin]
akfvkfrn = KT Sense
skahtgksek = Jangbi
qlrvkdl can't tell sorry
mixed akfvkfm with qlrvkdl
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I was gonna say something, I was like damn firefist has good terran o_o
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wow really? gonna iccup stalk them now
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