EPTOn January 23 2010 19:41 Highways wrote:
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How can people be posting?
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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 148
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 23 2010 19:36 Kazius wrote: Now, if JD wins, this title is going to be tainted. Flash was 2 base against 4 with superior tech in game 2. It took him a while when he couldn't destroy the base as well. Flash was about to expand in this game - if he pulled off his attack, it would be 3 bases to 3, with JD having no army and not enough gas to support ultra/ling, and no lurker aspect. i agree. flash forced JD to spend all his units/resources on the 7 oclock. flash needed but one drop on the 3 oclock to force a scenario of 3base terran vs 3 base zerg... a scenario that is strongly advantageous for terran. i really think the Kespa judges made their decision based on leftover resources... which makes no sense since zerg should always be ahead in that aspect. but whatever. flash is now the underdog, a role he hasnt had the chance to have in almost forever. he's in an advantageous scenario in terms of pressure: if he loses, it's not his fault; if he wins, he's even more awesome. can anyone recall another scenario in the last two years where flash was not the favorite? i suspect flash responds with 2-0 the next two games and gets his first MSL championship | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
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eNoq
Netherlands502 Posts
JD was on 3 gas with full tech and upgrades, Flash just lost pretty much all his units while trying to break 7 o clock, while JD had forces incoming with 2 defilers, the game would've ended in about 5 minutes from that moment. JD deserved the win, but still - it's not fun to get a win like this. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On January 23 2010 19:43 IPS.Mardow. wrote: Jaedong should gg in the beginning of game 4. Then everyone would be happy I wouldn't be happy, why should he? None of this was Jaedong's fault. | ||
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blue_arrow
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BWdero
Netherlands476 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On January 23 2010 19:44 MaGic~PhiL wrote: Flash was definitely not ahead BUT jd was 10000000000000000000 % not ENOUGH AHEAD to get a win.. no way thats just so weak and bad.. if this call stands msl is a big joke.. and no matter who wins.. this event is ruined.. ITS LIKE MAKING A MISTAKE ( the game crashing ) and then again MAKING ONE AND NOOT REMATCHING WTF I don't think you can tell, just from the fight @ 7 if JD was far enough ahead to take the win. The judges on the other hand, had all the information, in terms of worker count, supply count, tech upgrades, resources, # of bases which allow them to make a much better call than any of us. | ||
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machinebloodprogram
United States245 Posts
On January 23 2010 19:43 Alethios wrote: The amount of mbc hate is pretty disgusting guys. They had nothing to do with the decision. Their only fault was a blackout. You guys don't even know if was the entire building or a city block that went down... something which MBC couldn't do anything about. Doesn't stop you guys going after them like a pack of wild dogs. Cut it out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply $40? | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
Hey guys! Anyone one else super pumped for the Wnners League? EDIT: MEGA LOLOLOLOL I've never seen this one before!: HTTP/1.0 500 Service Unavailable Team Liquid is currently experiencing high site load and is unavailable. Please try your request again later. FAILED TO CONNECT TO DATABASE 2 We've now surpassed database two for God's sake. | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
he is the only one who can say if he was ahead or not... to his fanboys lol | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 23 2010 19:45 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Defend it the way you normally defend that type of thing. Don't mistake my post as those crazy enough to suggest Flash was ahead. He wasn't and Jaedong most definitely was in much better position. However, Flash still had some science vessles (unless more were scourged off screen), some reinforcements coming (albeit not enough to actually take 7), and for Jaedong to win he was still going to have to use those defilers and push into flash. Flash's attack might've been pushed back further away from JD's base, but it wasn't knocking on flash's natural. And, others have stated... It's Flash. That's not fanboyism or a delusion; just a fact. How do you normally defend against fully upgraded ultraling with defilers? In fact, normally you don't. That's the point where Terran generally starts losing to the Zerg. However, 1 min only in the middle of the map vs 4 base Z with potential of 5 gas? Puhleaze | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
So I don't support Kespa's decision, and I think it will be a black spot on this final, should Jaedong win, however, looking at the game, I think it was pretty clear Jaedong was ahead. It was Jaedong's 4 mining bases, though one was under heavy fire, and may have been lost. We'll never know what would have happened if Flash's attacks had continued, but it looked like Jaedong was going to hold it off. To Flash's 1 mining base, with his second CC floating over to the expansion. It might have been down already, but not mining all the way, I'm not sure. But even then, it was still 2v4 bases, with Jaedong holding off the attack. I wouldn't put it past Flash to have come back from the game, but he was in a very tight spot. And if this were any other event, than a fucking final, I would agree siding with Jaedong. However, it's a fucking final, rematch, plz. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
On January 23 2010 19:43 Alethios wrote: The amount of mbc hate is pretty disgusting guys. They had nothing to do with the decision. Their only fault was a blackout. You guys don't even know if was the entire building or a city block that went down... something which MBC couldn't do anything about. Doesn't stop you guys going after them like a pack of wild dogs. Cut it out. THEY SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR THIS. How do you think hospitals work? | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
punishing him for something he is not responsible for is NON SENSE I would only give jd the win if he was SO FAR ahead that flash could possibly not win anymore THAT WAS DEFINITELY ( !!! ) NOT THE CASE.. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On January 23 2010 19:42 Cambium wrote: JD was  EFINITELY* ahead, but I don't think his lead warranted a win. I feel that unless there is absolutely zero uncertainty that a player could win, the game should be replayed.Anyone who says Flash wasn't behind is blind; anyone who says JD would win 100% is a liar. Put yourself in Jaedong's seat now. How would you like a rematch after a huge comeback like that ? MBC made the correct decision here. Flash knows he lost too. | ||
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KristianJS
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Even though they gave JD the win in set 3, they've actually made it so that the only player who can actually win a title is Flash. | ||
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