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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 146

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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2901
Im struggling to load TL. Yea!! Kespa Justice!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2902
On January 23 2010 19:40 Day[9] wrote:
now, if jaedong wins, no one will ever consider it a legit title.

if flash wins, he seems super invincible.

it's not even a fair competition now

It's as true as it is sad.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 10:45:16
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2903
On January 23 2010 19:37 ilbh wrote:
Flash would admit that it was JD win rather than going for a rematch
he is not BM


JD would admit that it was completly even, and would go for a rematch rather than a free win
he is not BM
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2904
wtf is this shit, it takes them 30min to get the games up again?
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2905
Was that julyzerg talking about his time in the SKT house?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2906
On January 23 2010 19:43 jalstar wrote:
the title's not tainted if flash wins

go flash

Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2907
On January 23 2010 19:43 Alethios wrote:
The amount of mbc hate is pretty disgusting guys. They had nothing to do with the decision. Their only fault was a blackout. You guys don't even know if was the entire building or a city block that went down... something which MBC couldn't do anything about. Doesn't stop you guys going after them like a pack of wild dogs.

Cut it out.

CJ Entusman #24
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2908
On January 23 2010 19:37 SuperArc wrote:
THERE IS NO RIGHT DECISION, rematch is unfair towards Jaedong and giving win is unfair towards Flash.

This. This was totally a lose/lose situation for KeSPA - they're fucked no matter what they decide. If Jaedong wins MSL this way, his title is tainted; if there were a regame and Flash won, it's tainted that way too. KeSPA just had to use their judgement here and do what they felt was most accurate. Honestly this was way less bad on KeSPA's part than say, DQ'ing GoRush out of OSL, or any number of other shit they've done.

A better decision would probably be to strip MBCgame's SC broadcasting rights forever, but I dunno if KeSPA has the power to do that. :p We should all send MBCgame some promotional brochures on UPSs.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2909
Flash was definitely not ahead BUT jd was 10000000000000000000 % not ENOUGH AHEAD to get a win..

no way

thats just so weak and bad.. if this call stands msl is a big joke.. and no matter who wins.. this event is ruined..


ITS LIKE MAKING A MISTAKE ( the game crashing ) and then again MAKING ONE AND NOOT REMATCHING WTF
hatred outlives the hateful
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2910
On January 23 2010 19:39 FireGuyX wrote:
Guy's the point is Flash didn't GG, he didn't lose the game until he typed GG. Oh well Flash will win the next 2 games.

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lavion
Profile Joined September 2009
Singapore286 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2911
if flash wins this even during this condition, it only warrants flash as a bonjwa
Flash for bonjwa
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43362 Posts
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2912
There was no way Flash was winning that. He went 2 base allin and needed to shut down JDs economy with his last big push. He failed, his push gaining no ground and his vessel count being totally destroyed. With only 2 vessels against 5 gas defilers it would be impossible for Flash to push into 7. That left him on two mining bases (his main was empty) with one of those about to be mined out. He'd lost map control, his push had failed and JD had the entire Z tech tree and the gas to use it.
Not giving JD the win would have been unfair. Flash's build failed and there was no fallback option for him. JD's income was several times his and Flash had no new bases coming. It was done.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 10:46:24
January 23 2010 10:44 GMT
#2913
On January 23 2010 19:40 Day[9] wrote:
now, if jaedong wins, no one will ever consider it a legit title.

if flash wins, he seems super invincible.

it's not even a fair competition now
For the time being. I don't think details will matter in the future. Probably, only total number of MSL wins will be remembered.

If it was OSL (and the golden/platinum mouse was involved), then I think it'd have more significance.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 23 2010 10:45 GMT
#2914
Best finals ever lol
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 23 2010 10:45 GMT
#2915
lol complete silence from the audience when they come back from commercials... this finals is a huge pain inside to me 8[
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 23 2010 10:45 GMT
#2916
On January 23 2010 19:43 boredcouch wrote:
We all know the absolute most fair way to solve this problem is to put the players in the EXACT same position they were at the blackout and play it out. Then we would see how huge Jaedong's advantage really was... Some of you are quite blind...


And this is possible to do how?
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 10:47:55
January 23 2010 10:45 GMT
#2917
this sucks, I feel like no matter who wins it won't be as real.

edit: I would love JD to take his 4 starting drones and attack Flash, not micro at all and type out out of respect or something.
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 23 2010 10:45 GMT
#2918
The funny thing is that if Jaedong wins his title will feel "cheapened"

But if Flash ends up winning he will a LEGEND.

lol
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
ToeJam
Profile Joined April 2009
United States282 Posts
January 23 2010 10:45 GMT
#2919
I am an extreme Jaedong fan but that cheapens everything. Screw you MBC. My god have you screwed over so much. It could have been so swift a turn over but this just makes everybody sad.

I don't know if it was posted, but the site was very laggy. Such a train wreak like above.
trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
January 23 2010 10:45 GMT
#2920
IMO should always be a rematch when something like this happens. What if the power went out earlier in the game when it looked like flash was gonna win? I doubt flash can win now, losing a game in such a manner is more than enough to lose your focus for the rest of the match
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