EPT[MSL] Semi Finals #1 - Page 53
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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Bwenjarin Raffrack
United States322 Posts
On January 15 2010 01:42 Zozma wrote: This is what happens when Kwanro morphs a lair. It's all downhill from there. Seriously. Was no one else absolutely shocked that Kwanro rushed to HIVE twice?! Edit: More unnecessary punctuation to express sheer disbelief. | ||
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Draconizard
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Poor guy v_v | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On January 15 2010 02:07 Ace wrote: Although to be fair it's probably two different groups of people.Amazing. People flame Kwanro for playing an early-mid game micro oriented ZvT and when he plays a macro stlye he also gets flamed. Poor guy v_v | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On January 15 2010 01:50 Draconizard wrote: What a disappointing series; I expected better from Kwanro. He pretty much met my expectations. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On January 15 2010 02:58 Romantic wrote: Did Kwanro forget that Terrans have scans and can tell he is going for Guardians? That is why it doesn't work. Unless you put a hatchery in the middle of the map and build the spire there (and get lucky as hell), Guardians won't work. lol no | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
Of course I thought Kwanro would give Flash a decent fight, due to his aggressiveness, but he chose to do two sets of guardian builds, which I cannot ever remember working against Flash. but he chose to do two sets of guardian builds, which I cannot ever remember working against Flash. guardian builds, which I cannot ever remember working against Flash. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On January 14 2010 17:38 Too_MuchZerg wrote: 3 different types of progamers 1. Mastering builds. Players like Flash, Jaedong, Savior, Bisu and the kind belongs here. Mastered one good build (aka 3 hatch muta, Flash TvP etc), weakness: When new builds comes from 2. progamers these are players who suffers. 2. Creative counter builds. Players like Fantasy, Calm etc. Sometimes makes good builds against dominating builds from 1. progamers (Fantasys vulture play). Weakness: Finding that surprise build that gives them enough time to get far leagues before counter gets made (sometimes it gets many tries/loses to get proper build). 3. Aggressive builds. Players like Kwanro and such. They are at best when 1. and 2. Are fighting to get proper counters to their builds. Abuses build order holes. Weakness: Solid play from 1. progamers should beat these guys. Wonder if Flash plays newly experimented Fantasys late mass vulture switch which he played vs Zero. If he does Kwanro is going to win. I love how Flash switched to Aggressive builds to totally throw Kwanro off. Mindgame! | ||
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Creationism
China505 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On January 15 2010 03:44 0neder wrote: He just didn't want to practice too hard for the MSL. Like it says in his interview.I love how Flash switched to Aggressive builds to totally throw Kwanro off. Mindgame! | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On January 14 2010 17:38 Too_MuchZerg wrote: 3 different types of progamers 1. Mastering builds. Players like Flash, Jaedong, Savior, Bisu and the kind belongs here. Mastered one good build (aka 3 hatch muta, Flash TvP etc), weakness: When new builds comes from 2. progamers these are players who suffers. 2. Creative counter builds. Players like Fantasy, Calm etc. Sometimes makes good builds against dominating builds from 1. progamers (Fantasys vulture play). Weakness: Finding that surprise build that gives them enough time to get far leagues before counter gets made (sometimes it gets many tries/loses to get proper build). 3. Aggressive builds. Players like Kwanro and such. They are at best when 1. and 2. Are fighting to get proper counters to their builds. Abuses build order holes. Weakness: Solid play from 1. progamers should beat these guys. Wonder if Flash plays newly experimented Fantasys late mass vulture switch which he played vs Zero. If he does Kwanro is going to win. 1. is actually more fantasy i think. When fantasy went through his tvp streak he did the same build every game. I think 1 should not be mastering builds but people who adapt to their opponent. For example the difference between a player like let say fantasy,rock and someone like flash is that. When fantasy and rock prepare a special build for a particular map they do that build no matter what they see from their opponent. I remember reading of july vs rock I didnt actually see it but read that rock prepared a 1 gate reaver build and july went 2 hatch muta and rock scouted and still didnt change his build and lost. Another example is fantasy vs jaedong. Fantasy prepared a tech build for rotk but he got a position where if he walled his units would spawn on the outside. Instead of switching his build and doing a build like 1 rax fe where he doesnt have to wall in he takes a risk and just made the wall and loses to 9 pool+speed. A person like flash does tend to prefer specific flexible builds but hes a player who if he sees a zerg go 3 hatch no pool, even though he prepared lets say 1 rax fe late game, he might do a scv+rine all in and switch to 2 rax acad. He reacts to his opponents play. | ||
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surfinbird1
Germany999 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
Just finished watching. I found all games pretty intense, just because it was the semifinals. I agree the game would have been a bit more interesting if we had seen 1x science vessel or lurker but I think it's a testament to Kwanro's...um..."play style"...that the only game he won was an all-in ling and didn't even bother trying to get into the late game. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
IMO, the progamer with the most amount of success for such little talent and inspiration. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
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Achromic
773 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On January 15 2010 06:21 SubtleArt wrote: Walking and chewing gum at the same time is harder than TvZ.Did Flash just say TvP is harder than TvZ? Yes, he did. No more "omg tank r liek range" and "omg vulture mine insta-nuke imbaaa" complaints plz? | ||
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