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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
January 14 2010 13:23 GMT
#1021
Is anyone going to do the interview? for some reason i really want to read it before i go to sleep
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 14 2010 13:25 GMT
#1022
On January 14 2010 22:23 Scaramanga wrote:
Is anyone going to do the interview? for some reason i really want to read it before i go to sleep

If you actually read through the thread then you would not have to ask in the first place.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
January 14 2010 13:44 GMT
#1023
On January 14 2010 22:00 SuperArc wrote:
If you look only at this series Flashs builds were genius.

But if you think further at the possible Jaedong vs Flash finals I am like wtf.

Jaedong looking at those games will surely never go 12 hatch against Flash. He will most likely go 9pools or 12pools. Which makes Flash's possibilites quite low.

Afaik early pool builds negate early rax, 14ccs and Flash's favourite BO his very early rax expand.

This means Flash will have to completely change his game plan, against 12hatch the Terran is usually the one aggressor, but against early pools (especially against Jaedong) he will have to wait much longer to expand to his natural now.

Can anyone more skilled than me explain why Flash did those things TODAY and not keep them till the finals?

you, too, are falling for flash's traps. lol.
Woo Jung Ho
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 13:46 GMT
#1024
On January 14 2010 22:25 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:23 Scaramanga wrote:
Is anyone going to do the interview? for some reason i really want to read it before i go to sleep

If you actually read through the thread then you would not have to ask in the first place.


You could be more kind and give us the link insteand of asking us to look 52 pages =(
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 14 2010 14:05 GMT
#1025
On January 14 2010 21:29 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 21:10 iMarshall wrote:
On January 14 2010 21:06 SubtleArt wrote:
Lol @ everyone who was arguing Kwanro had a legit chance.


I don't remember the details of the games, but he did knock Flash out of the last MSL with a 2-1 win in ro16. Of course, Flash wasn't running over every opponent at the time, the way he does now, but it still gave Kwanro a small shot in my opinion. I was hoping for more all-ins from Kwanro, though.


The details were everything. If I remember correctly, that period was during the strange time that Flash was the greediest player in the proscene and would constantly skimp on turrets and units during the early game and would often go 14CC and die to stuff like 9 pool. If I remember right, that's pretty much how he lost set 3 of that series.

I think Flash is still cutting it close with the timings for certain things but he's definitely building lots of turrets and isn't really going 14CC constantly and getting mauled by aggressive builds.

Of course I thought Kwanro would give Flash a decent fight, due to his aggressiveness, but he chose to do two sets of guardian builds, which I cannot ever remember working against Flash.


Hi.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 14 2010 14:14 GMT
#1026
On January 14 2010 23:05 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 21:29 Womwomwom wrote:
On January 14 2010 21:10 iMarshall wrote:
On January 14 2010 21:06 SubtleArt wrote:
Lol @ everyone who was arguing Kwanro had a legit chance.


I don't remember the details of the games, but he did knock Flash out of the last MSL with a 2-1 win in ro16. Of course, Flash wasn't running over every opponent at the time, the way he does now, but it still gave Kwanro a small shot in my opinion. I was hoping for more all-ins from Kwanro, though.


The details were everything. If I remember correctly, that period was during the strange time that Flash was the greediest player in the proscene and would constantly skimp on turrets and units during the early game and would often go 14CC and die to stuff like 9 pool. If I remember right, that's pretty much how he lost set 3 of that series.

I think Flash is still cutting it close with the timings for certain things but he's definitely building lots of turrets and isn't really going 14CC constantly and getting mauled by aggressive builds.

Of course I thought Kwanro would give Flash a decent fight, due to his aggressiveness, but he chose to do two sets of guardian builds, which I cannot ever remember working against Flash.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1snERPZkPeI&



a game from 08. very decisive evidence.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 14 2010 14:14 GMT
#1027
I should be missing something but what is "S-Z combo"?
SKT1!
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 14 2010 14:19 GMT
#1028
good shit flash. msl/osl finals here we go
Forever Young
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 14:24:28
January 14 2010 14:23 GMT
#1029
On January 14 2010 23:14 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I should be missing something but what is "S-Z combo"?

Select larvae / morph Zerglings hotkeys
aka 5sz6sz7sz8sz9sz

(edit: larvae, not drones:-p)
BW fighting!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 14 2010 14:23 GMT
#1030
On January 14 2010 23:14 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I should be missing something but what is "S-Z combo"?


im guessing EITHER

speed-zergling

or selectlarva-zergling

..
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 14 2010 14:41 GMT
#1031
Wow, first double final appearance since Savior. Let's see if he can do what no one other than Nada could.
Remember Violet.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
January 14 2010 14:45 GMT
#1032
On January 14 2010 22:23 Scaramanga wrote:
Is anyone going to do the interview? for some reason i really want to read it before i go to sleep

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109991
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 14:52 GMT
#1033
Kwanro got kwanrolled.

Seriously i dunno why ppl hate so much fast games...

As i have seen in the past for most hte guys GOOD GAMES = LONG GAMES
for me the day flash bunker rushed jaedong will never be forget...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 15:16:14
January 14 2010 15:15 GMT
#1034
On January 14 2010 23:52 torm3ntin wrote:
Kwanro got kwanrolled.

Seriously i dunno why ppl hate so much fast games...

As i have seen in the past for most hte guys GOOD GAMES = LONG GAMES
for me the day flash bunker rushed jaedong will never be forget...


= Reverse kwanrolled

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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 14 2010 15:37 GMT
#1035
dang I thought Kwanro would stand a chance, Flash is the real deal.
Xellos <3
kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
January 14 2010 15:39 GMT
#1036
lol just noticed this. to add to flash's mannerisms/quirks (i.e. the ruler, downing tea like it was going out of style, and the facial ticks) flash takes off his shoes just before a match. dunno when he started doing it though.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 14 2010 15:49 GMT
#1037
Lol, Flash is making starleagues boring.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
January 14 2010 15:59 GMT
#1038
On January 14 2010 22:46 torm3ntin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:25 Harem wrote:
On January 14 2010 22:23 Scaramanga wrote:
Is anyone going to do the interview? for some reason i really want to read it before i go to sleep

If you actually read through the thread then you would not have to ask in the first place.


You could be more kind and give us the link insteand of asking us to look 52 pages =(


or you could look on the left and see that its posted lol

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 14 2010 16:42 GMT
#1039
This is what happens when Kwanro morphs a lair. It's all downhill from there.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 14 2010 16:45 GMT
#1040
On January 14 2010 22:44 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:00 SuperArc wrote:
If you look only at this series Flashs builds were genius.

But if you think further at the possible Jaedong vs Flash finals I am like wtf.

Jaedong looking at those games will surely never go 12 hatch against Flash. He will most likely go 9pools or 12pools. Which makes Flash's possibilites quite low.

Afaik early pool builds negate early rax, 14ccs and Flash's favourite BO his very early rax expand.

This means Flash will have to completely change his game plan, against 12hatch the Terran is usually the one aggressor, but against early pools (especially against Jaedong) he will have to wait much longer to expand to his natural now.

Can anyone more skilled than me explain why Flash did those things TODAY and not keep them till the finals?

you, too, are falling for flash's traps. lol.
That can't even be called a trap. It's just what's inherent in going into a Starcraft game. Is he going to 5 pool me? Is he going to 14-nexus? etc.

Flash certainly didn't invent that.
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