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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 07 2010 12:20 GMT
#1961
latest TvP wins: Best Stork Best Best
terrans - everyone
zergs- everyone

starting to look pretty decent...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
remembervhs
Profile Joined September 2009
11 Posts
January 07 2010 12:20 GMT
#1962
Roffles is an idiot and so is everyone who is crying about Flash's playstyle.

Do you even watch Flash play? His micro is easily the best among terrans right now. Iloveoov often had sloppy micro, which is one reason why people hated him: he was the anti-Boxer. Flash's micro is so amazing to watch, take a look at some of his vulture blocks and mine laying in these games, no one I've seen does it as well as him.

And I shouldn't have to mention tvz, his mnm micro is up there with old-Nada.

If you're crying because you hate people who win, just come out and say it. There is nothing boring about Flash's playstyle. 5 out of his last 6 tvps are among the most exciting tvps I've ever seen (early timing pushes).
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
January 07 2010 12:21 GMT
#1963
Best played like absolute shit. Even after Flash tried his best to gift him game 2. Honestly, who the fuck sends out their 5th probe to gas steal and has no plan afterwards? WTF IS THAT BEST!?

-You take a big econ hit to pull off a gas steal that early
-You know Flash is gonna expand in reponse
-PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER

I will eat you alive
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 07 2010 12:21 GMT
#1964
On January 07 2010 21:06 MrHoon wrote:
He has the most aggressive TvZ right now in the scene

What the hell do you people want?! Do you want flash to lose for your own entertainment?


exactly.
Every single time Flash wins we have to go through this all over again.. Doesn't anyone get tired of it?
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 07 2010 12:21 GMT
#1965
In both Bisu's and Jaedong's prime there were other players at the complete top of their game rivalling them, they might not have been on equal level but a fair chance to take a game or with luck even a series off at the least. I dont know if Flash is just THAT good that everyone else's prime just isnt good enough or if there dont happen to be other S-class people in their prime, but he's dominating more then Bisu and/or Jaedong did.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 07 2010 12:22 GMT
#1966
One thing I think is true....if Flash doesn't get a proper rival eventually then the entertainment value can start to go down eventually.

It's like Federer in tennis. For a while he absolutely steamrolled everyone in a ridiculously dominant fashion. That was fun to watch for a while, but when Nadal came along and was able to actually give Federer serious competition things became much, much more interesting and entertaining.

Right now Flash is like the emergent Federer, but he's lacking his Nadal. Jaedong is the obvious candidate, but after their Bo3 earlier...well, we'll have to wait and see I guess.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 07 2010 12:22 GMT
#1967
On January 07 2010 21:20 remembervhs wrote:
Roffles is an idiot and so is everyone who is crying about Flash's playstyle.

Do you even watch Flash play? His micro is easily the best among terrans right now. Iloveoov often had sloppy micro, which is one reason why people hated him: he was the anti-Boxer. Flash's micro is so amazing to watch, take a look at some of his vulture blocks and mine laying in these games, no one I've seen does it as well as him.

And I shouldn't have to mention tvz, his mnm micro is up there with old-Nada.

If you're crying because you hate people who win, just come out and say it. There is nothing boring about Flash's playstyle. 5 out of his last 6 tvps are among the most exciting tvps I've ever seen (early timing pushes).

I've BEEN saying it. I don't like people who absolutely dominate.

God Bless
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 12:23:45
January 07 2010 12:22 GMT
#1968
On January 07 2010 21:19 dasanivan wrote:
i'm just excited about the next best player to arise and go head to head with the genius that is flash. just imagine flash vs anti-flash butting heads. maybe then more people will realize that we needed more players like him.

exactly, people are hating him because he is so much better than anyone else, they want him to get worse. But isnt the correct answer that others should work hard and try to catch him? we dont need flash to get bad, we need another great players that can match him! Flash just shows what is possible in SC. If he can achieve it, why cant you [Fantasy]?
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 07 2010 12:22 GMT
#1969
On January 07 2010 21:20 remembervhs wrote:
Do you even watch Flash play? His micro is easily the best among terrans right now. Iloveoov often had sloppy micro, which is one reason why people hated him: he was the anti-Boxer. Flash's micro is so amazing to watch, take a look at some of his vulture blocks and mine laying in these games, no one I've seen does it as well as him.
.


Absolutely. I don't think many people caught it the first time they watched the recent Stork vs Flash game (I didn't until I watched the VOD), but there were two times when Stork tried to mine-drag mines that were like a centimeter away from Flash's tanks, into his tanks, and Flash sniped his own mine before it could blow up on him. TWICE. That's fucking crazy.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 07 2010 12:23 GMT
#1970
On January 07 2010 21:18 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:14 SiDX wrote:
I don't remember people complaining about jaedong this much

Even at his height, he wasn't absolutely dominant like Flash is right now. The guy is clearly untouchable, as Oov was when he burst onto the scene with his macro.


yeah and also jd was loved so much for his spirit and that air of constant struggle that he gave off. along with the mostly-crappy team that he came from, his nearly-career-destroying FA issues, and his constantly-humble manner, very few people could really hate him strongly.

tbh jd's character at his peak was much more admirable than flash's character is as of now
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 07 2010 12:24 GMT
#1971
On January 07 2010 21:21 Promises wrote:
In both Bisu's and Jaedong's prime there were other players at the complete top of their game rivalling them, they might not have been on equal level but a fair chance to take a game or with luck even a series off at the least. I dont know if Flash is just THAT good that everyone else's prime just isnt good enough or if there dont happen to be other S-class people in their prime, but he's dominating more then Bisu and/or Jaedong did.


Yeah.. back when Jaedong, Bisu and Flash could take games off each other at like a 50% rate. It was kind of the definition of S-class (tiered) players. Only other S-class players can beat S-class players without doing something that could be deemed once in a lifetime(read: season).

I'm sure all the vitriol for Flash won't go away until he has legitimate competition again.

Remember when Flash made a promise to his fans to do well this season? Well.. he lived up to that and people are complaining about hoe he fulfilled it.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 07 2010 12:24 GMT
#1972
The thing is, when Jaedong and Bisu were dominating the last couple years, they were still dropping games here and there and losing about 50% of the time to the other S-class gamers (Flash, Bisu, JD).

Flash doesn't lose. It takes out the entertainment value when someone gets THIS dominant.
God Bless
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
January 07 2010 12:25 GMT
#1973
I just want to remind everyone that Flash, pretty much went out of his way (probably) to nuke the shit out of BeSt's 12 o'clock with some clever positioning of ghost and EMP might I add. You could tell how hyped everyone was when they saw the covert ops, but people are BS'ing now that he is boring? Like, wtf?
Graphics
Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
January 07 2010 12:25 GMT
#1974
On January 07 2010 21:24 Roffles wrote:
The thing is, when Jaedong and Bisu were dominating the last couple years, they were still dropping games here and there and losing about 50% of the time to the other S-class gamers (Flash, Bisu, JD).

Flash doesn't lose. It takes out the entertainment value when someone gets THIS dominant.


He lost to calm and zero
Use the force.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 07 2010 12:25 GMT
#1975
On January 07 2010 21:23 blue_arrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:18 Roffles wrote:
On January 07 2010 21:14 SiDX wrote:
I don't remember people complaining about jaedong this much

Even at his height, he wasn't absolutely dominant like Flash is right now. The guy is clearly untouchable, as Oov was when he burst onto the scene with his macro.


yeah and also jd was loved so much for his spirit and that air of constant struggle that he gave off. along with the mostly-crappy team that he came from, his nearly-career-destroying FA issues, and his constantly-humble manner, very few people could really hate him strongly.

tbh jd's character at his peak was much more admirable than flash's character is as of now


that's ironic because JD and Flash get criticized for not having character in the Korean Scene.
dats racist
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 07 2010 12:25 GMT
#1976
Seeing Best like that burns me. Seeing anyone like that hurts because only then you learn how much these games mean to them and realise why Best didn't type out. Especially when Best had a perfect record against Flash before this BO5.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 07 2010 12:25 GMT
#1977
On January 07 2010 21:12 Jakalo wrote:
Ahh sweet fanboy fight.

[image loading]


hooray for xkcd!
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 07 2010 12:26 GMT
#1978
On January 07 2010 21:23 blue_arrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:18 Roffles wrote:
On January 07 2010 21:14 SiDX wrote:
I don't remember people complaining about jaedong this much

Even at his height, he wasn't absolutely dominant like Flash is right now. The guy is clearly untouchable, as Oov was when he burst onto the scene with his macro.


yeah and also jd was loved so much for his spirit and that air of constant struggle that he gave off. along with the mostly-crappy team that he came from, his nearly-career-destroying FA issues, and his constantly-humble manner, very few people could really hate him strongly.

tbh jd's character at his peak was much more admirable than flash's character is as of now


What? Flash has been nothing but humble and respectful this season. He knows he's a favourite to win OSL and still just said it was "50:50". What on earth else do you need for Flash to say? Geez...it's not like Jaedong was talking after every game about how he was going to donate money to starving children or anything, they are both highly respectable and humble.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 07 2010 12:26 GMT
#1979
On January 07 2010 21:25 SilverskY wrote:
I just want to remind everyone that Flash, pretty much went out of his way (probably) to nuke the shit out of BeSt's 12 o'clock with some clever positioning of ghost and EMP might I add. You could tell how hyped everyone was when they saw the covert ops, but people are BS'ing now that he is boring? Like, wtf?



LOL the double vessel trap in anticipation of stasis made me giggle

hella cute move
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 07 2010 12:26 GMT
#1980
personally I don't mind watching a player dominate.
He's got rivals still.

Even if he continues to dominate, itll be fun to watch!
but its not fun if you dislike him..
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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