EPTYes, out of like 20 games, he's lost 2.
[MSL] Nate MSL Quarterfinals Day 2 - Page 100
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Yes, out of like 20 games, he's lost 2. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i49.tinypic.com/9hkn06.jpg) there, fixed. The previous image had flash's head a tad bit lower. add it to the OP. | ||
SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:23 blue_arrow wrote: yeah and also jd was loved so much for his spirit and that air of constant struggle that he gave off. along with the mostly-crappy team that he came from, his nearly-career-destroying FA issues, and his constantly-humble manner, very few people could really hate him strongly. tbh jd's character at his peak was much more admirable than flash's character is as of now Have you seen KT before this season? Have you read Flash's interviews? Flash is as humble as they come, and his team before this season of course sucked ass. There was a reason why it used to be called KTFlash... | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:23 blue_arrow wrote: yeah and also jd was loved so much for his spirit and that air of constant struggle that he gave off. along with the mostly-crappy team that he came from, his nearly-career-destroying FA issues, and his constantly-humble manner, very few people could really hate him strongly. tbh jd's character at his peak was much more admirable than flash's character is as of now Flash carried a terrible KTF Team that was even worse than today's Hwaseung to the point that he has the nickname Child Labor Terran and he kept getting knocked out of leagues because he had to keep playing 2 matches a night. Similarly Flash has never been anything but humble in his interviews. There's nothing more likeable about JD's personality and you can only point to his games instead of trying to clumsily character assassinate him. | ||
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whathappened
United States213 Posts
And they've lost to him more than he's lost to them.. so? He's saying that there needs to be a reliable player who can take out Flash without losing 1-3, rather: 2-3 or 3-2 or even a shut out. | ||
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:26 SilverSkyLark wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i46.tinypic.com/2vn3ll5.jpg) hahahaha | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:25 SilverskY wrote: I just want to remind everyone that Flash, pretty much went out of his way (probably) to nuke the shit out of BeSt's 12 o'clock with some clever positioning of ghost and EMP might I add. You could tell how hyped everyone was when they saw the covert ops, but people are BS'ing now that he is boring? Like, wtf? Well, he didn't DO anything for the entire game. He just sat there and camped his ridges until he racked up like 7k minerals in the bank and then decided to be like "Oh hey, I guess I'm gonna fuck around with a nuke cause I don't feel like attacking while maxed" | ||
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:22 johanes wrote: exactly, people are hating him because he is so much better than anyone else, they want him to get worse. But isnt the correct answer that others should work hard and try to catch him? we dont need flash to get bad, we need another great players that can match him! Flash just shows what is possible in SC. If he can achieve it, why cant you [Fantasy]? This basically. I don't dislike Flash as a human person but I know I will be really excited and enjoy it when another player finally manages to dominate him in a bo5 (random PL losses don't mean jack). I want Flash to get beaten but I don't want him at all to slump and start playing like shit out of nowhere, ugh. That would be horrible. I'm also thankful to him that he doesn't care about playing boring 50 min turtlefests or bunkerrush Jaedong to death if he thinks that's what needs to be done to win. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:57 revy wrote: Kwanro Flash will be a good BO5 I hope. Kwanro's hyper aggressiveness vs Flash's aggressive TvZ style. Kwanro vs Flash will not be a BO5, it will be a BO3. Flash will do anything to win in anyway possible, from cheese to constant harassment, you name it. Plus Flash wants revenge from last seasons MSL, and you bet he would love nothing more than to dominate Kwanaro. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:18 Hinanawi wrote: I hear there's a sale, Protoss whiners: ![[image loading]](http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1650/preph.jpg) Game 1: Flash pushes out and crushes BeSt early. "lol Flash can't handle lategame TvP so he has to end it fast what a loser" Game 2: Flash turtles for a win, uses nukes. "oh my god I hate Flash all he can do is turtle what a turtling noob, too afraid to end the game early because he sucks at anything but turtling" Game 3: Flash pushes out early again with 6fac and kills BeSt at the 10 minute mark. "lol Flash so gay afraid to go lategame has to do cheesy timing pushes what a fag" Ahahahaha. You can at least be honest and admit that the reason you don't like Flash is because you don't want another player to be super-dominant. That's reasonable, it's a respectable opinion, certainly not as pathetic as trying to throw insults at Flash himself. hey douchebag, do you hear anyone complaining about what Flash did game 1 or game 3? Not everyone simply hates Flash to hate Flash. its just game 2 that pissed most of us off since he turtled when he didnt have to. Game 1: Flash crushes Best with timing push, Best shoulda defended better, but GG to flash. Game 2: Flash pushes out, crushes the nat... basically wins the game then decides to turtle for 30 minutes. ok wtf? Game 3: nice 6 fact timing push kills best. I liked this game the most actually, we saw nice micro and macro from both and it was action packed for most of it. Do you see anyone complain about how Flash is afraid of lategame, especially after he beat Best in a lategame TvP? not one fucking person. so of course you invent some complaints. | ||
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Aus)MaCrO
Australia349 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:23 blue_arrow wrote: yeah and also jd was loved so much for his spirit and that air of constant struggle that he gave off. along with the mostly-crappy team that he came from, his nearly-career-destroying FA issues, and his constantly-humble manner, very few people could really hate him strongly. tbh jd's character at his peak was much more admirable than flash's character is as of now I find this reasoning questionable. Flash carried his team for a while there (he was called Child Labor Terran for a reason), and he has, as near as I can tell, a very humble manner. Sure, he didn't have to go through the FA debacle, but its not like that is in his control. Edit: Completely beaten but w/e | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:27 Roffles wrote: Well, he didn't DO anything for the entire game. He just sat there and camped his ridges until he racked up like 7k minerals in the bank and then decided to be like "Oh hey, I guess I'm gonna fuck around with a nuke cause I don't feel like attacking while maxed" .. or you can understand how PvT works in Matchpoint Roffles Using game 2 as your example is NOT a good idea, trust me man. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:23 blue_arrow wrote: yeah and also jd was loved so much for his spirit and that air of constant struggle that he gave off. along with the mostly-crappy team that he came from, his nearly-career-destroying FA issues, and his constantly-humble manner, very few people could really hate him strongly. tbh jd's character at his peak was much more admirable than flash's character is as of now Flash is a good guy, no doubt about it. But his play can get robotic and absolutely boring. I'm beginning to feel the same way about everyone these days. The variance in games and the excitement has gone down drastically from the last few years. | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:25 MrHoon wrote: that's ironic because JD and Flash get criticized for not having character in the Korean Scene. i'm not talking about personalities and flavors of character here, which is what you're refering to. i'm talking about the difference in admirablity of character (and i have to admit pertaining mostly to TL since i have little idea what the general/major attitudes and opinions towards their personalities are in Korea) which partially explains why JD was 'hated' less than Flash is now when comparing their two progaming peaks | ||
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Fx_
503 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:56 Roffles wrote: Yes. I am #1 Flash anti fan as of now. I'm a Flash anti. Roffles please don't cry i give u some cookies | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
thats one game he camped because he feels like it and you hate him for that... when a player gets this dominant it will take some time for the others to catch up but it WILL happen...just wait and stop the hate | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:28 Matoo- wrote: This basically. I don't dislike Flash as a human person but I know I will be really excited and enjoy it when another player finally manages to dominate him in a bo5 (random PL losses don't mean jack). I want Flash to get beaten but I don't want him at all to slump and start playing like shit out of nowhere, ugh. That would be horrible. I'm also thankful to him that he doesn't care about playing boring 50 min turtlefests or bunkerrush Jaedong to death if he thinks that's what needs to be done to win. Yeah seriously. I fucking love Flash but his wins are so hollow to me now. He just...keeps on winning and the games he wins are generally not even remotely close. Competition is what makes games exciting but Flash is just, well, too good for anyone right now. He's won 38 and lost 5 games so far...Jesus Christ, if that's not an untouchable win rate, I don't know what is. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:30 TRAP[yoo] wrote: roffles as much as i like your stream you are talking bull****. thats one game he camped because he feels like it and you hate him for that... when a player gets this dominant it will take some time for the others to catch up but it WILL happen...just wait and stop the hate Nah, I've hated him ever since he made the 3/3 camp 200/200 popular. I enjoyed his early days, big fan of Flash's. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On January 07 2010 21:28 FireGuyX wrote: Kwanro vs Flash will not be a BO5, it will be a BO3. Flash will do anything to win in anyway possible, cheese to constant harassment, you name it. Plus Flash wants revenge from last seasons MSL, and you bet he would love nothing more than to dominate Kwanaro. I agree with you. Flash simply does WHATEVER it takes to win. Some players like Stork and Jaedong expressed in their interviews about distaste on all-in and cheese, but Flash does not mind. He will use whatever style possible to guarantee victory. Be it cheesing in an anticipated series or turtling forever in order to ensure victory. However, I am not bashing Flash here. This is exactly what makes a player scary. He does not set a limit for himself. Victory is the only reward he needs. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
he is the best player right now, but it's way too early to say that he "is such a guaranteed win that his games aren't exciting." | ||
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