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[OSL] EVER OSL Semi-Final B: Movie vs Shine - Page 60

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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 08 2010 11:12 GMT
#1181
alright movie
clinch this with a proxy 2 gate as a retaliation for him trying to hydra-break you in game 1
cept don't fail like he did
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Draffut
Profile Joined July 2009
United States128 Posts
January 08 2010 11:13 GMT
#1182
On January 08 2010 20:11 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 20:09 Draffut wrote:
So, this match hinges entirely on if Shine goes 2 more games of IMBA Muta or not. Fantastic.


Actually, what's even more imba than mutas are the lings. Cheap stuff that you can just send across the map to obliterate enemy exp.


When they are cracked out, sure. But I am talking the easily economy crippling Muta's that is the only thing Shine even knows how to use. Though i admit he does use them well.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
January 08 2010 11:13 GMT
#1183
On January 08 2010 20:11 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie should of steamrolled through Shine's base earlier, he delayed the push because he had no observer, I think that was a mistake. He should of just attacked anyway, Bisu is an EXPERT at killing lurkers with no observer.


Zealots are cheap units you can take across the map to take down expos.

VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
January 08 2010 11:13 GMT
#1184
On January 08 2010 20:12 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 20:11 VorcePA wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:09 M2 wrote:
How come a 30 damage making archon cannot kill 25 health scourge in one hit? Someone care to explain


Archons do 30 explosive damage, I believe. Explosive damage does 50% damage to small units, 75% damage to medium, and 100% to large units.

25 - ((30 * .5) - 0) = 15

Where 25 is the scourge's health, 30 is the damage the archon does, .5 is the damage type vs. unit size, and 0 is the armor a scourge has.


No, archon does normal damage.


In that case, the scourge outrun the "epicenter" of where the damage is, and are only hit by the splash damage.
Shitposting
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 08 2010 11:13 GMT
#1185
On January 08 2010 20:12 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 20:08 Itachii wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:08 Shikyo wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:05 7mk wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:05 Shikyo wrote:
TOLD YOU! THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS!


what kind of cj fan are you?

One that plays Zerg?

EXPLAIN YOURSELF TO ME RIGHT NOW

I'm a fan of Savior mostly, Effort some. Don't really care about Movie and Shine is one of my favorite players.

sarcasm, why does that german dude care anyway^.~ its your business who you cheer for, not his
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 08 2010 11:13 GMT
#1186
Shine, take this game plz.
I want game 5
Terran
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1187
On January 08 2010 20:12 ondik wrote:
So is it just me who thinks Shine could have easily ended the game with his first mutas?


Not really Movie's timing on the archon and the 2 corsairs he saved was pretty good .
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1188
On January 08 2010 20:09 M2 wrote:
How come a 30 damage making archon cannot kill 25 health scourge in one hit? Someone care to explain

delay between attack attack start/animation and damage dealt means that a scourge moving away from an archon can move out of its full damage radius and survive. Same thing in that a fast unit running away from a scarab will sometimes take only 50 damage rather than 100.
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1189
On January 08 2010 20:11 StorkHwaiting wrote:
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On January 08 2010 20:11 Klive5ive wrote:
It's interesting to watch Shine because unlike most top progamers he really doesn't seem to focus much on his micro. Rather he makes up for it with really nice stategic play. It's quite an unique style.


Sounds like ForGG and By.Hero. Not really unique, more like they just don't have the micro lol

..WAIT! you win games with mutas without micro ? the game btw is called starcraft
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1190
3-1 incoming. Brace yourselves.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 11:15:00
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1191
On January 08 2010 20:12 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 20:11 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie should of steamrolled through Shine's base earlier, he delayed the push because he had no observer, I think that was a mistake. He should of just attacked anyway, Bisu is an EXPERT at killing lurkers with no observer.


A lone lurker sitting outside your base yeah. Killing a ton of lurkers burrowed in the zerg's base along with lings/mutas/sunkens everywhere is a different story lol



There was only like one or two lurkers left in the first push, Movie would of won the game had he just ignored the lurker. Of course later on lurkers got upgraded and there were massive amounts.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1192
On January 08 2010 20:12 DoX.) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 20:09 Qwertify wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:08 Itachii wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:08 Shikyo wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:05 7mk wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:05 Shikyo wrote:
TOLD YOU! THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS!


what kind of cj fan are you?

One that plays Zerg?

EXPLAIN YOURSELF TO ME RIGHT NOW


fan of your race > fan of your team

yep

Hwasin v Bisu i would cheer for Hwasin anyday



Not real fan then T_T
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1193
Game 4 starting on Fighting Spirit!

Crossmap for Shine. SWEET
Shine at 7
Movie at 1
God Bless
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1194
On January 08 2010 20:12 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 20:11 VorcePA wrote:
On January 08 2010 20:09 M2 wrote:
How come a 30 damage making archon cannot kill 25 health scourge in one hit? Someone care to explain


Archons do 30 explosive damage, I believe. Explosive damage does 50% damage to small units, 75% damage to medium, and 100% to large units.

25 - ((30 * .5) - 0) = 15

Where 25 is the scourge's health, 30 is the damage the archon does, .5 is the damage type vs. unit size, and 0 is the armor a scourge has.


No, archon does normal damage.


yeah im pretty sure of this myself, since fully uped archons can 1 hit ko lings
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 08 2010 11:14 GMT
#1195
On January 08 2010 20:13 nodule wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 20:11 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie should of steamrolled through Shine's base earlier, he delayed the push because he had no observer, I think that was a mistake. He should of just attacked anyway, Bisu is an EXPERT at killing lurkers with no observer.


Zealots are cheap units you can take across the map to take down expos.



1 lot costs x4 a ling mister gates
bisu fanboy
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
January 08 2010 11:15 GMT
#1196
match about to start

movie looking disappointed, shine looking...

well he's got a weird look of "this mildly amuses me" on his face, other than that he looks normal
Kal Fighting!
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 08 2010 11:15 GMT
#1197
hoping shine wins so i can watch him get run over by flash
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 08 2010 11:15 GMT
#1198
On January 08 2010 20:11 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie should of steamrolled through Shine's base earlier, he delayed the push because he had no observer, I think that was a mistake. He should of just attacked anyway, Bisu is an expert at killing lurkers with no observer.

Not true, Backho is.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
January 08 2010 11:15 GMT
#1199
On January 08 2010 20:11 Klive5ive wrote:
It's interesting to watch Shine because unlike most top progamers he really doesn't seem to focus much on his micro.


People who say this are haters who are too obstinate to see how well he microed his Hydralisks in the first two games. Moreso in game 1, but still. It showed a great amount of care.

Also his extremely fast reaction time, again most exhibited in game 1. There's definitely a lot of micro going on from Shine.
TranslatorBaa!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 08 2010 11:15 GMT
#1200
Shine spawns in a sexy red color. Movie putting up a pylon at the nat, standard FE incoming most likely.
God Bless
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