EPTnot saying he'll beat flash (barring something huge, he won't) but he'll at least put up a good fight
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ItsBigfoot
United States432 Posts
not saying he'll beat flash (barring something huge, he won't) but he'll at least put up a good fight | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
Fuck. This OSL is going to suck major Santa balls. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13911 Posts
msl still has some hope though | ||
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Ryusei-R1
United States2106 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:31 Avidkeystamper wrote: He was known for making Starleagues but never really going far at all. Kinda like go.go but slightly better without great macro and nonexistant micro. He had great macro, he'd just always waste all of his units in the most ridiculous way possible, especially in TvZ. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:46 Tien wrote: Although a Stork vs Flash finals would have been so god damn epic. stork had the best chance to give flash a run for his money, and make the finals actually worth watching. movie and shine don't have much of a chance, although i'd put my bets on movie doing better than shine. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:47 Tien wrote: I'm a HUGE Jaedong fan. I only watch sc because of Jaedong. But I'm not angry at Flash. There is NOTHING to be upset about. Jaedong had his chance last week for a normal straight up game and blew it. Flash prepared a wicked sick strategy and caught Jaedong red handed. Flash was the better player this time around. I hope Jaedong wins the MSL. This. It was a brilliant strategy by Flash. If it was so easy and Terrans can easily win by using it why other Terrans didn't use it before? I laugh my ass hard when people always complain about Flash style. It seems always like some retards think that Flash is breaking some honour code by using imba strategy (turtling and now this cheeese at HBR). The truth is that no Terran can replicate what Flash is doing and this "cheese" was super innovative. Catching the ovie and blocking the supply was really genius move by Flash. At that moment the game was over. Jaedong was not match for Flash and you should swallow. I did not cry after Flash lost to Jawedong 0:3 in Gom because I believed that JAedong was a better player that time though he used gay 2 hatch muta each game. Now Flash is playing better and it was Jaedong who did not deliver that series. Hope for now epic series between Flash and Calm in the semis. Better than another ZvZ anyway. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On December 25 2009 23:15 Zozma wrote: Canata is about the most standard guy you can imagine, so just because he decides to cheese every once in a while doesn't make him a "cheeser". And Flash is not playing standard in 99.9% of his games? He was playing so standard that it hurts. One cheese doesn't make him cheeser. He is still about one of the players that plays most standard. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
why is flash's strategy that brilliant?? 8proxyrax bunkerrush is nothing new it has being used for like 8 years it is brilliant to use it on that map because you can kill zerg's overlord? if you play tvz on that map 10 hours a day for a whole week it should not be THAT difficult to find out that a zerg player can not hide his overlord, come on you can argue that jaedong chose the wrong opening but flash's strategy was no brilliant at all. it might have been executed perfectly, no doubt. but it is not like that was some genius move that nobody could have come up with | ||
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bao235
Norway97 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:24 MapleLeafSirup wrote: ok why is flash's strategy that brilliant?? 8proxyrax bunkerrush is nothing new it has being used for like 8 years it is brilliant to use it on that map because you can kill zerg's overlord? if you play tvz on that map 10 hours a day for a whole week it should not be THAT difficult to find out that a zerg player can not hide his overlord, come on you can argue that jaedong chose the wrong opening but flash's strategy was no brilliant at all. it might have been executed perfectly, no doubt. but it is not like that was some genius move that nobody could have come up with It was 7 rax. If it is such an easy win and easy to come up strategy why no other Terran use it? Or wait, there is the honour codex that only Flash dares to break, right? | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:24 MapleLeafSirup wrote: ok why is flash's strategy that brilliant?? 8proxyrax bunkerrush is nothing new it has being used for like 8 years it is brilliant to use it on that map because you can kill zerg's overlord? if you play tvz on that map 10 hours a day for a whole week it should not be THAT difficult to find out that a zerg player can not hide his overlord, come on you can argue that jaedong chose the wrong opening but flash's strategy was no brilliant at all. it might have been executed perfectly, no doubt. but it is not like that was some genius move that nobody could have come up with its all in the details. the way flash played the build is absolutely different than what some random iccup cheeser would have done. i mean, first of all, it was a 7rax not an 8rax, which obviously has a timing difference because people have 8raxed on HBR before without catching the overlord. but more importantly, there was a lot of deception in the way that flash played out the rush. flash delayed his bunker and didnt let jaedong see the scvs he pulled until way too late. his unit count and positioning also made it extremely difficult for jaedong to determine what was coming, even after seeing the marines. i mean, for all he knew, flash could have gone 1rax cc after the ovie snipe, or it could've been an allin BBS leaving only 2-3 scvs mining. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:12 Ace wrote: Calm would probably get raped by Movie if they met in the finals. Movie's PvZ is really, really good. Wtf? People are going a bit ott about Movies PvZ. He's decent in comparison to most other toss right now but saying he would 'probably' rape Calm is ridiculous. Calm even beat him the last time they played. While stats are not everything we only need to look at his recent record to see that while his playstyle is nice it doesn't always lead to wins, while Calm has lost only 4 ZvP's in 18 matches, and 3 of those were in BO3's that he won... hes 80% overall this year. Its not even close. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:34 Lebesgue wrote: It was 7 rax. If it is such an easy win and easy to come up strategy why no other Terran use it? Or wait, there is the honour codex that only Flash dares to break, right? Just to clear it up it is 8 rax because OGN unit counter only shows units that were built. You'd know this if you realized that after Jaedong's overlord completed and he built two drones, he was still at 9 supply, and he built his hatchery at 11 supply. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On December 26 2009 09:06 writer22816 wrote: Just to clear it up it is 8 rax because OGN unit counter only shows units that were built. You'd know this if you realized that after Jaedong's overlord completed and he built two drones, he was still at 9 supply, and he built his hatchery at 11 supply. It was seven rax, watch the VOD. But it was a brilliant build nonetheless, like Flash said in the interview, even if JD had gone for a 9 pool, the OL snipe would still allow him a chance to win. edit: at 2:50, he built his 8th SCV after building the barrack outside | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:12 Ace wrote: Calm would probably get raped by Movie if they met in the finals. Movie's PvZ is really, really good. Calm's ZvP is also really, really good. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On December 26 2009 09:06 infinity2k9 wrote: Wtf? People are going a bit ott about Movies PvZ. He's decent in comparison to most other toss right now but saying he would 'probably' rape Calm is ridiculous. Calm even beat him the last time they played. While stats are not everything we only need to look at his recent record to see that while his playstyle is nice it doesn't always lead to wins, while Calm has lost only 4 ZvP's in 18 matches, and 3 of those were in BO3's that he won... hes 80% overall this year. Its not even close. Stop looking at TLPD and look at the games. Who has better PvZ than Movie besides Bisu and maybe Kal when he feels like it? | ||
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