You know as they say, theres a place and time for everything. After a shitty osl and msl final, I'm pretty sure that everyone is just pissed off that we have to see another fail final.

Including me.

Shine was just doing the wrong thing in the wrong time in the wrong place.

On December 26 2009 05:02 hyst.eric.al wrote:
i'm just sad about no stork vs flash; shine cemented flash's title by knocking out birdtoss.

Don't worry, I had a rage fit right after stork gged.

hyst.eric.al

United States2332 Posts

December 25 2009 20:02 GMT

#2702

i'm just sad about no stork vs flash; shine cemented flash's title by knocking out birdtoss.

abascus

United States23 Posts

December 25 2009 20:06 GMT

#2703

Shine is looking to be quite a player in my opinion. His aggressive style is really fun to watch

Jackal03

Brazil7469 Posts

December 25 2009 20:07 GMT

#2704

funny how things are, to me, when an unknown player beats a player i like (like shine beated stork) he earns my interess (and sometimes my respect), not my hate

i really liked how shine is pefforming, overagression is an awesome thing to watch. And new players should aways rise to keep the game competitive. Starcraft is so good because things like that (underdog winning) are very possible

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

December 25 2009 20:17 GMT

#2705

On December 26 2009 04:18 cz wrote:

Show nested quote +

Jaedong not being good enough made the game short.

Jaedong lost when he lost his overlord. Are you saying that he wasn't good because he sent his initial overlord to scout? FFS, stop. You're worse than the fanboys.

JohannesH

Finland1364 Posts

December 25 2009 20:19 GMT

#2706

All the Shine haters... I wonder how many of his games you have actually watched? Watch his game vs Violet for example to see things other than mutas and hydras.

Ideas

United States8169 Posts

December 25 2009 20:20 GMT

#2707

Man this is awesome, it's hard to ask for a better semifinals. flash vs calm should be good assuming calm comes prepared enough to not lose exactly the same way that every other zerg loses to flash (lol), and movie vs shine should be extremely fun to watch judging by their previous encounter.

As long as there both calm AND shine dont win, the finals will be great!

BanZu

United States3329 Posts

December 25 2009 20:24 GMT

#2708

On December 26 2009 01:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Calm versus Movie finals would actually be pretty sick. Both super creative players with unique styles of play. I wonder what the reaction would be on TL if Shine won the OSL. People would probably continue pretending he's not a good player.

Until he shows that he's not a one-hit-wonder like Mind, Luxury, ForGG, etc, people are going to KNOW that he's not a good player. Being good for a short period of time doesn't mean nothing but it sure doesn't mean that much. You have to be consistent.

Xiphos

Canada7507 Posts

December 25 2009 20:28 GMT

#2709

Question: When ForGG won his game against Jaedong in the Finals, Flash in the semi-finals and Kal the quarterfinals, was he like a nobody like Shine or he was already known?

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

December 25 2009 20:31 GMT

#2710

On December 26 2009 05:28 Xiphos wrote:
Question: When ForGG won his game against Jaedong in the Finals, Flash in the semi-finals and Kal the quarterfinals, was he like a nobody like Shine or he was already known?

He was known for making Starleagues but never really going far at all. Kinda like go.go but slightly better without great macro and nonexistant micro.

Ideas

United States8169 Posts

December 25 2009 20:33 GMT

#2711

I always wondered how much of ForGG's slump could be blamed on his injury from that time he fell down the stairs and couldnt play in the 2008 all-stars.

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

December 25 2009 20:36 GMT

#2712

On December 26 2009 05:33 Ideas wrote:
I always wondered how much of ForGG's slump could be blamed on his injury from that time he fell down the stairs and couldnt play in the 2008 all-stars.

People, please compare time frames. He started dropping tons of games months before his injury.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

December 25 2009 20:37 GMT

#2713

lol flash haters

On December 25 2009 18:53 Misrah wrote:
Flash you worthless scum, i waited all week for this game, and this is what you give me? Damn terran shit.

On December 25 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote:
Two words for Flash: Fuck you.

On December 25 2009 18:54 Myxomatosis wrote:
awful game. fuck you flash and i sincerely hope that you get annihilated by calm or stork. if shine wins today this will be a totally ffffffffuuuuuuuuu christmas

On December 25 2009 18:54 3nickma wrote:
Fuck Flash! Chessing n00b Terran...

So people said Ruby was the better player becuase FireFirst cheesed him out? Well then JD must be the superior player over Flash since he tries that shit. Goddanmit...

A BO5 would've been much better for the overall performance and results. But that's life.

On December 25 2009 18:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Fuck Terran, bunker rush is the most imba shit in the history of the game T_T

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

=<

On December 25 2009 18:51 samachking wrote:
Also
Fuck the terran race, fuck you terrans and your gayass 8rax cheeses that require no skill to execute and autowin the game 50% the time or get you way ahead
T___T

On December 25 2009 18:51 DragoonPK wrote:
aww flash wtf.. U ruined image of you .. screw u

On December 25 2009 18:50 oatboy wrote:
Flash...you fucking fag, your fans are disappointed

On December 25 2009 18:50 Goragoth wrote:
Lol Flash what a cheesing noob.

On December 25 2009 18:50 meegrean wrote:
Flash is so fucking lame.

On December 25 2009 18:51 barbahaba0 wrote:
i think flash has just earned my hate!!!
wtf i've been waiting for a week for this !!
cheese shit!

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

December 25 2009 20:39 GMT

#2714

what is most amusing to me is that if jaedong wins with just sick mutalisk control and hydra all-ins everyone will say "wow gosu micro, jaedong is so good i love jaedong" and "look at those hydras sick macro lol chobo protoss is gonna lose jaedong rulez"

if shine wins in the exact same way because he's goofy looking and not as well-known everyone shits down his throat.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

December 25 2009 20:40 GMT

#2715

On December 26 2009 05:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
what is most amusing to me is that if jaedong wins with just sick mutalisk control and hydra all-ins everyone will say "wow gosu micro, jaedong is so good i love jaedong" and "look at those hydras sick macro lol chobo protoss is gonna lose jaedong rulez"

if shine wins in the exact same way because he's goofy looking and not as well-known everyone shits down his throat.

Another thing worth noting:

When Flash loses 14cc to Jaedong's 9pool, it's his fault for being too greedy.

When Flash wins 7rax to Jaedong's 12 hatch, it's his fault for being too aggressive.

XCLuSive

Canada121 Posts

December 25 2009 20:42 GMT

#2716

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I could care less how "good" shine is, I hate seeing his face. I mean who does that!?!? What newcomer comes in and knocks out the two best toss's in the world. GUHHHHHHHHHHH

I shall forever hate him.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

December 25 2009 20:46 GMT

#2717

On December 26 2009 05:42 XCLuSive wrote:
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I could care less how "good" shine is, I hate seeing his face. I mean who does that!?!? What newcomer comes in and knocks out the two best toss's in the world. GUHHHHHHHHHHH

I shall forever hate him.

I don't understand this attitude at all. Somehow it's deplorable that Shine brought his A-game? It's unforgivable that he played the game to his strengths?

As much as I like Bisu and Stork, the blame falls entirely on them for being unable to adapt to his style. You can't really shift the blame, because there's nothing *wrong* that you can say Shine has done.