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Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
December 09 2009 15:34 GMT
#381
On December 09 2009 21:56 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2009 21:44 Ota Solgryn wrote:
On December 09 2009 20:00 pripple wrote:
really saw this coming since seeing the lineups, it still hurts nonetheless ;<
damn please put JD in the first 3 sets.


This. I really don't understand why they aren't doing this always. It gives a MUCH higher probability of getting an extra game, which leads to an extra shot for one of the other Oz guys to get a win and get the match to ace, where JD is the best player in the world to have on your team.



Who cares if it is 0-3 or 1-3 anyway?
Seriously, assuming jaedong wins his game, 1 of the other 3 players has to win a game, too. But it really doesn't matter if it is on #1, #2, #3 or #4. And ya, it sucks for many FPL teams, but that's it.
Even better, when all the other players lose, jaedong does not have to play for nothing and burn out that fast.

Anyway. Hurts alot to see OZ losing again that hard. Well, with the new Oz uniforms coming to us, we hopefully have a new lucky charm soon and OZ can start raping again.

There are pro and cons ofc. It is not unheard of that teams tie wins at the end of season 5 and map difference comes in to play which promotes an earlier placement of JD. However, to me it seems that it is still more logical to put him fourth as to save his energy when the matches are lost by his team-mates anyway, especially as long as he is in both leagues.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 15:38:23
December 09 2009 15:37 GMT
#382
You never want to put your ace fourth, because if it's 1-2 when it gets to him, he has to play back to back with little rest, and it also puts extra pressure to not only get himself to ace, but to win ace as well, which is why it's doubly nice to put your ace in 1st or 3rd (1st for momentum and rest, 3rd to make sure he plays and to take the pressure off the first 2 players).

Obviously there's exceptions depending on what map it is and who you need your ace to play on the other team.
Remember Violet.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 09 2009 15:41 GMT
#383
On December 10 2009 00:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
You never want to put your ace fourth, because if it's 1-2 when it gets to him, he has to play back to back with little rest, and it also puts extra pressure to not only get himself to ace, but to win ace as well, which is why it's doubly nice to put your ace in 1st or 3rd (1st for momentum and rest, 3rd to make sure he plays and to take the pressure off the first 2 players).

Obviously there's exceptions depending on what map it is and who you need your ace to play on the other team.

coaches often send the ace player out in the 4th set, if the maps are reasonable for it, on purpose. its worth far more to be warmed up than the slight cost of having already played a game. in very rare cases, like you have an hour and a half long tvt or something, it might not be worth it, but most of the time its beneficial to have the back to back games.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 15:52:00
December 09 2009 15:44 GMT
#384
Well hell most of the time I see Jaedong and Flash sent first and third and some of the interviews confirmed it -- I mean hell Effort was sent first vs KT and third vs SKT, etc, but kind of hard to argue with someone who's actually there. :x
Remember Violet.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 10 2009 22:33 GMT
#385
well..this wasnt suprising
what's Flash's TvT streak up to
anyone know?
cw)minsean(ru
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
December 10 2009 22:51 GMT
#386
On December 10 2009 00:41 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2009 00:37 TwoToneTerran wrote:
You never want to put your ace fourth, because if it's 1-2 when it gets to him, he has to play back to back with little rest, and it also puts extra pressure to not only get himself to ace, but to win ace as well, which is why it's doubly nice to put your ace in 1st or 3rd (1st for momentum and rest, 3rd to make sure he plays and to take the pressure off the first 2 players).

Obviously there's exceptions depending on what map it is and who you need your ace to play on the other team.

coaches often send the ace player out in the 4th set, if the maps are reasonable for it, on purpose. its worth far more to be warmed up than the slight cost of having already played a game. in very rare cases, like you have an hour and a half long tvt or something, it might not be worth it, but most of the time its beneficial to have the back to back games.

Indeed. When the format was Winner's League, several players also said riding on the momentum of a win into the next match, back to back, strongly outweighed whatever fatigue they would be experiencing from playing without a break. As such, they were able to perform well in several matches in a row.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 10 2009 23:13 GMT
#387
fuck yea KT

although no watching JD sucks

btw what game is that backho gif from? did he like storm his own probe line or soemthing? ^^
Forever Young
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 10 2009 23:27 GMT
#388
On December 11 2009 08:13 sung_moon wrote:
fuck yea KT

although no watching JD sucks

btw what game is that backho gif from? did he like storm his own probe line or soemthing? ^^

ahaha Canata vs Backho

Backho went for some crazy double shuttle bulldog

Canata SCANNED the shuttles perfectly and picked them off with a wraith
the shuttles dropped 1 reaver which didnt get a single kill at all
and the goons that were trying to assault the nat got destroyed

go watch it
cw)minsean(ru
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