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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
October 14 2009 09:54 GMT
#221
that was one sneaky goon
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 14 2009 09:54 GMT
#222
robo first again
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 14 2009 09:54 GMT
#223
Pusan raped all the marines.
Brood War loyalist
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51447 Posts
October 14 2009 09:54 GMT
#224
On October 14 2009 18:53 iamho wrote:
fe for pusan?


6 goons 1 zeal and goon rally yeh
Commentator
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 09:55:03
October 14 2009 09:54 GMT
#225
On October 14 2009 18:52 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 18:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:47 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:46 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing

talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late

Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan

2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible

No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in
Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching

his defense was as good as it could be? what game were you watching, you pusan fanboy

Yes it was - he went reaver first which was his mistake - with obs he could have defended
Tell me what more pusan could have done - his mine sniping was 100% spot on and goon control flawless

are you saying 2-fac up a wide ramp against 2-gate goon range into expo is an autowin? because if pusan was "flawless" then it should win every time -- and there are plenty of games in this scenario where the T fails.

Its by no means auto-win at standard timing. But do you agree that Canata's 2 fac in game 1 was not your typical 2 fac in the sense that he cut scv production?

wtf is he cutting scv production FOR? you can only make so many units with 2 factories and 1 base, it doesn't matter if you cut scvs or not if you only have 2 factories -- you can constantly produce vultures easily and still make SCVs

he didnt bring scvs and didn't build turrets, he went starport to counter a reaver and had a wraith and expo up well before pusan could get there

i don't see how its any different than a standard 2-fac, the timing isn't any faster
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 14 2009 09:54 GMT
#226
On October 14 2009 18:52 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 18:49 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:47 Holgerius wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing

talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late

Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan

2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible

No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in
Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching

Making reaver instead of obs first---> getting raped by mines is good defense in your opinion?
That was his one mistake - assuming Canata was playing standard 2fac/expo and no 2fac allin

pusan defended forgg's 2-fac because forgg was stupid and got siege first trying to "trick" him. pusan failed horribly against Canata's 2-fac because of bad micro and positioning. i can't believe you think he played that "flawlessly" ... because pusan got straight up raped

are you saying if someone 2-facs its impossible to win even if you 2-gate range? because thats not what happens at all. what made this particular 2-fac by Canata somehow unbeatable by 2-gate range expo, on a map with a wide ramp to natural too

its by no means an unwinnable situation and pusan played far from perfect, even very poorly imo
In the modern 2fac, canata wouldn't have reinforced so hard because he would have had been building scvs and taking an expo. Neither of those happened. The fact that his expansion was so late is a clear indication that this isn't a normal modern 2fac. This is a 2fac all in. I don't think you are comprehending the difference between the two.
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 09:55:41
October 14 2009 09:55 GMT
#227
sneaky 2 fac push through pusans back

edit: nm
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#228
On October 14 2009 18:54 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 18:52 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:47 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:46 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing

talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late

Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan

2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible

No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in
Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching

his defense was as good as it could be? what game were you watching, you pusan fanboy

Yes it was - he went reaver first which was his mistake - with obs he could have defended
Tell me what more pusan could have done - his mine sniping was 100% spot on and goon control flawless

are you saying 2-fac up a wide ramp against 2-gate goon range into expo is an autowin? because if pusan was "flawless" then it should win every time -- and there are plenty of games in this scenario where the T fails.

Its by no means auto-win at standard timing. But do you agree that Canata's 2 fac in game 1 was not your typical 2 fac in the sense that he cut scv production?

wtf is he cutting scv production FOR? you can only make so many units with 2 factories and 1 base, it doesn't matter if you cut scvs or not if you only have 2 factories -- you can constantly produce vultures easily and still make SCVs

he didnt bring scvs and didn't build turrets, he went starport to counter a reaver and had a wraith and expo up well before pusan could get there

i don't see how its any different than a standard 2-fac, the timing isn't any faster

didnt he build like 5 marines? it delayed the 2nd fact by a bit
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
October 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#229
On October 14 2009 18:54 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 18:52 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:49 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:47 Holgerius wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing

talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late

Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan

2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible

No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in
Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching

Making reaver instead of obs first---> getting raped by mines is good defense in your opinion?
That was his one mistake - assuming Canata was playing standard 2fac/expo and no 2fac allin

pusan defended forgg's 2-fac because forgg was stupid and got siege first trying to "trick" him. pusan failed horribly against Canata's 2-fac because of bad micro and positioning. i can't believe you think he played that "flawlessly" ... because pusan got straight up raped

are you saying if someone 2-facs its impossible to win even if you 2-gate range? because thats not what happens at all. what made this particular 2-fac by Canata somehow unbeatable by 2-gate range expo, on a map with a wide ramp to natural too

its by no means an unwinnable situation and pusan played far from perfect, even very poorly imo
In the modern 2fac, canata wouldn't have reinforced so hard because he would have had been building scvs and taking an expo. Neither of those happened. The fact that his expansion was so late is a clear indication that this isn't a normal modern 2fac. This is a 2fac all in. I don't think you are comprehending the difference between the two.

i think you don't understand what an all-in is

whats a "normal modern 2fac" please give me an example, because making 3 tanks and reinforcing with vultures is 100% standard

i don't know what you are talking about when you say "cut scvs" because if you cut SCVs you can make 3 facs off 1 base
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
October 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#230
obs out, 2 fact push is wiped off
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 14 2009 09:56 GMT
#231
PUSAN DEFENSE!!!!!
Brood War loyalist
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51447 Posts
October 14 2009 09:57 GMT
#232
Zealot rally!
Zealot rally!
Zealot rally!
Commentator
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
October 14 2009 09:57 GMT
#233
Nice, well if ForGG can't advance, at least it can be Pusan . Hope he continues doing well
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 14 2009 09:57 GMT
#234
On October 14 2009 18:56 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 18:54 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:52 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:49 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:47 Holgerius wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:
On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing

talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late

Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan

2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible

No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in
Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching

Making reaver instead of obs first---> getting raped by mines is good defense in your opinion?
That was his one mistake - assuming Canata was playing standard 2fac/expo and no 2fac allin

pusan defended forgg's 2-fac because forgg was stupid and got siege first trying to "trick" him. pusan failed horribly against Canata's 2-fac because of bad micro and positioning. i can't believe you think he played that "flawlessly" ... because pusan got straight up raped

are you saying if someone 2-facs its impossible to win even if you 2-gate range? because thats not what happens at all. what made this particular 2-fac by Canata somehow unbeatable by 2-gate range expo, on a map with a wide ramp to natural too

its by no means an unwinnable situation and pusan played far from perfect, even very poorly imo
In the modern 2fac, canata wouldn't have reinforced so hard because he would have had been building scvs and taking an expo. Neither of those happened. The fact that his expansion was so late is a clear indication that this isn't a normal modern 2fac. This is a 2fac all in. I don't think you are comprehending the difference between the two.

i think you don't understand what an all-in is

whats a "normal modern 2fac" please give me an example, because making 3 tanks and reinforcing with vultures is 100% standard

i don't know what you are talking about when you say "cut scvs" because if you cut SCVs you can make 3 facs off 1 base
Just compare expansion timings for 2facs and you'll find that canata's was significantly later than normal
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Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 14 2009 09:57 GMT
#235
Pusan wipes the floor with Canata's push. The starport isn't complete before the reaver drop this time.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 14 2009 09:57 GMT
#236
Regardless, good defense again by pusan
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
October 14 2009 09:58 GMT
#237
pusan playing nice, im becoming a fan
Xstatic
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States765 Posts
October 14 2009 09:58 GMT
#238
On October 14 2009 18:57 Kazius wrote:
Pusan wipes the floor with Canata's push. The starport isn't complete before the reaver drop this time.


Yeah that makes a big difference! Pusan got a few scv kills with that. Wraith out for Canata though.
Snow - Protoss the way it was meant to be, one mindgame at a time ^^
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
October 14 2009 09:59 GMT
#239
FailGG PUSAN destory Canataaaaaaa
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 14 2009 09:59 GMT
#240
Canata still hasn't expanded yet.
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