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Pusan raped all the marines.
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On October 14 2009 18:53 iamho wrote:
fe for pusan?
6 goons 1 zeal and goon rally yeh
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Braavos36390 Posts
On October 14 2009 18:52 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 18:48 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:47 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:46 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late Last game canata all-ind  you have nothing on pusan 2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching his defense was as good as it could be? what game were you watching, you pusan fanboy Yes it was - he went reaver first which was his mistake - with obs he could have defended Tell me what more pusan could have done - his mine sniping was 100% spot on and goon control flawless are you saying 2-fac up a wide ramp against 2-gate goon range into expo is an autowin? because if pusan was "flawless" then it should win every time -- and there are plenty of games in this scenario where the T fails. Its by no means auto-win at standard timing. But do you agree that Canata's 2 fac in game 1 was not your typical 2 fac in the sense that he cut scv production?
wtf is he cutting scv production FOR? you can only make so many units with 2 factories and 1 base, it doesn't matter if you cut scvs or not if you only have 2 factories -- you can constantly produce vultures easily and still make SCVs
he didnt bring scvs and didn't build turrets, he went starport to counter a reaver and had a wraith and expo up well before pusan could get there
i don't see how its any different than a standard 2-fac, the timing isn't any faster
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 14 2009 18:52 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 18:49 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:47 Holgerius wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan 2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching Making reaver instead of obs first---> getting raped by mines is good defense in your opinion? That was his one mistake - assuming Canata was playing standard 2fac/expo and no 2fac allin pusan defended forgg's 2-fac because forgg was stupid and got siege first trying to "trick" him. pusan failed horribly against Canata's 2-fac because of bad micro and positioning. i can't believe you think he played that "flawlessly" ... because pusan got straight up raped are you saying if someone 2-facs its impossible to win even if you 2-gate range? because thats not what happens at all. what made this particular 2-fac by Canata somehow unbeatable by 2-gate range expo, on a map with a wide ramp to natural too its by no means an unwinnable situation and pusan played far from perfect, even very poorly imo In the modern 2fac, canata wouldn't have reinforced so hard because he would have had been building scvs and taking an expo. Neither of those happened. The fact that his expansion was so late is a clear indication that this isn't a normal modern 2fac. This is a 2fac all in. I don't think you are comprehending the difference between the two.
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sneaky 2 fac push through pusans back
edit: nm
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On October 14 2009 18:54 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 18:52 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:48 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:47 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:46 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan 2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching his defense was as good as it could be? what game were you watching, you pusan fanboy Yes it was - he went reaver first which was his mistake - with obs he could have defended Tell me what more pusan could have done - his mine sniping was 100% spot on and goon control flawless are you saying 2-fac up a wide ramp against 2-gate goon range into expo is an autowin? because if pusan was "flawless" then it should win every time -- and there are plenty of games in this scenario where the T fails. Its by no means auto-win at standard timing. But do you agree that Canata's 2 fac in game 1 was not your typical 2 fac in the sense that he cut scv production? wtf is he cutting scv production FOR? you can only make so many units with 2 factories and 1 base, it doesn't matter if you cut scvs or not if you only have 2 factories -- you can constantly produce vultures easily and still make SCVs he didnt bring scvs and didn't build turrets, he went starport to counter a reaver and had a wraith and expo up well before pusan could get there i don't see how its any different than a standard 2-fac, the timing isn't any faster
didnt he build like 5 marines? it delayed the 2nd fact by a bit
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Braavos36390 Posts
On October 14 2009 18:54 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 18:52 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:49 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:47 Holgerius wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan 2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching Making reaver instead of obs first---> getting raped by mines is good defense in your opinion? That was his one mistake - assuming Canata was playing standard 2fac/expo and no 2fac allin pusan defended forgg's 2-fac because forgg was stupid and got siege first trying to "trick" him. pusan failed horribly against Canata's 2-fac because of bad micro and positioning. i can't believe you think he played that "flawlessly" ... because pusan got straight up raped are you saying if someone 2-facs its impossible to win even if you 2-gate range? because thats not what happens at all. what made this particular 2-fac by Canata somehow unbeatable by 2-gate range expo, on a map with a wide ramp to natural too its by no means an unwinnable situation and pusan played far from perfect, even very poorly imo In the modern 2fac, canata wouldn't have reinforced so hard because he would have had been building scvs and taking an expo. Neither of those happened. The fact that his expansion was so late is a clear indication that this isn't a normal modern 2fac. This is a 2fac all in. I don't think you are comprehending the difference between the two.
i think you don't understand what an all-in is
whats a "normal modern 2fac" please give me an example, because making 3 tanks and reinforcing with vultures is 100% standard
i don't know what you are talking about when you say "cut scvs" because if you cut SCVs you can make 3 facs off 1 base
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obs out, 2 fact push is wiped off
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Zealot rally!
Zealot rally!
Zealot rally!
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Nice, well if ForGG can't advance, at least it can be Pusan  . Hope he continues doing well
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 14 2009 18:56 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2009 18:54 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:52 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:49 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:47 Holgerius wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:44 Hot_Bid wrote:On October 14 2009 18:43 Plexa wrote:On October 14 2009 18:42 disciple wrote:On October 14 2009 18:40 Plexa wrote:
talk about perfect motherfucking defense right there!
bar letting that rine through, that was amazing talkin about sick ass luck and canata scouting the 12 nex too late Last game canata all-ind you have nothing on pusan 2-fac isn't an allin, and Pusan's defense against it in game 1 was horrible No, but 2fac cut scv no expo IS an all in Pusan's defense was pretty much as good as it could possibly be - I don't know what game you were watching Making reaver instead of obs first---> getting raped by mines is good defense in your opinion? That was his one mistake - assuming Canata was playing standard 2fac/expo and no 2fac allin pusan defended forgg's 2-fac because forgg was stupid and got siege first trying to "trick" him. pusan failed horribly against Canata's 2-fac because of bad micro and positioning. i can't believe you think he played that "flawlessly" ... because pusan got straight up raped are you saying if someone 2-facs its impossible to win even if you 2-gate range? because thats not what happens at all. what made this particular 2-fac by Canata somehow unbeatable by 2-gate range expo, on a map with a wide ramp to natural too its by no means an unwinnable situation and pusan played far from perfect, even very poorly imo In the modern 2fac, canata wouldn't have reinforced so hard because he would have had been building scvs and taking an expo. Neither of those happened. The fact that his expansion was so late is a clear indication that this isn't a normal modern 2fac. This is a 2fac all in. I don't think you are comprehending the difference between the two. i think you don't understand what an all-in is whats a "normal modern 2fac" please give me an example, because making 3 tanks and reinforcing with vultures is 100% standard i don't know what you are talking about when you say "cut scvs" because if you cut SCVs you can make 3 facs off 1 base Just compare expansion timings for 2facs and you'll find that canata's was significantly later than normal
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Pusan wipes the floor with Canata's push. The starport isn't complete before the reaver drop this time.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Regardless, good defense again by pusan
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pusan playing nice, im becoming a fan
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On October 14 2009 18:57 Kazius wrote:
Pusan wipes the floor with Canata's push. The starport isn't complete before the reaver drop this time.
Yeah that makes a big difference! Pusan got a few scv kills with that. Wraith out for Canata though.
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FailGG  PUSAN destory Canataaaaaaa
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Canata still hasn't expanded yet.
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EPT
