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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
August 25 2009 10:54 GMT
#301
On August 25 2009 19:49 konadora wrote:
Effort 2 digit resources...

GG

Didn't play like himself o_O Hardly any expansions.


Flash did a great job controlling the middle the whole game. He was content to let Effort take the 4 free gas Outsider gives Zerg, but made sure not to let him take any more. He also was extra careful to ensure that Effort not get the minerals from the min-only above the 9 o'clock base which can make a huge difference (as we saw in the July game) when the gas flows that easily.

Once Flash secured his 4 gas it was just a matter of trading Vessels for Defilers, and he actually did a better than usual job of keeping his Vessels alive too.

Effort played really well - Flash was one step ahead in a lot of places, such as when he killed lings trying to go around for flanks a few times, making a huge difference. Effort would have won against almost every other Terran.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7809 Posts
August 25 2009 10:54 GMT
#302
On August 25 2009 19:53 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Where do you guys whatch? Zeroboy only shows Masters?


Zeroboy is showing masters until the next WCG match starts.. he's just switching streams inbetween games
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 25 2009 10:54 GMT
#303
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.

Lol youre full of shit.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
August 25 2009 10:55 GMT
#304
On August 25 2009 19:51 Ver wrote:
Effort played pretty poorly for how he was a few months ago. What happened to the #1 ZvT :/

Flash's strategy was dead on though. He managed to lose a billion marines and his first push because he can't multitask but his constant pressure gave him the ability to expand safely, stall ultras, and wear Effort down at low risk.


Haha... were you watching supply counts? It was pretty clear Flash would take it after the results of the first push. Effort lost almost a dozen lurkers vs a dirt cheap M&M army. Flash came out of that with a supply advantage he never let go of.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 25 2009 10:55 GMT
#305
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.


If flash gets to lategame he only losses to Jaedong. Rapes other zergs. But he is relatively weak earlygame. Dunno why, maybe because of greed.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
August 25 2009 10:55 GMT
#306
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.

what? ask Jaedong...
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 11:00:14
August 25 2009 10:56 GMT
#307
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.


This is one of those really stupid things that people just regurgitate because they're in denial. It's like everytime Flash beats a zerg, they're either bad or slumping. Flash could 3-0 Jaedong tomorrow and it wouldn't be because Flash played well -- it never is. Sigh, that's what he gets for being #1 elo, career winning percentage, highest win rate in all 3 matches for Terran (leta's is lower right now after Kwanro), etc.
Remember Violet.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 25 2009 10:56 GMT
#308
On August 25 2009 19:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.

Lol youre full of shit.

No, I'm full of sarcasm ^_^
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 10:58:57
August 25 2009 10:57 GMT
#309
Considering Flash just took a game against a top level zerg on a completely zerg biased map. Its pretty obvious okum is incorrect.

Oh of course...sarcasm...very witty?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
August 25 2009 10:57 GMT
#310
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.


FYI this is probably sarcasm.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
August 25 2009 10:58 GMT
#311
So, flash completely lost his initial push.
He failed to even hurt a single hatchery before effort got 4 gas and swarm.
He lost a bunch of early vessels.

And he wins? What happened to Ret's 4 gas zerg = autowin?
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 25 2009 10:59 GMT
#312
i hope that 8 gas doesnt hurt effort later on
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66307 Posts
August 25 2009 10:59 GMT
#313
EFFORT SCOUTS 2 FACT
POGGERS
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
August 25 2009 10:59 GMT
#314
On August 25 2009 19:56 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.

Lol youre full of shit.

No, I'm full of sarcasm ^_^


The fact people didn't get that this is sarcasm says a lot about Flash fans, and Flash anti-fans. lol.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
August 25 2009 11:00 GMT
#315
On August 25 2009 19:59 Orbifold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:56 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.

Lol youre full of shit.

No, I'm full of sarcasm ^_^


The fact people didn't get that this is sarcasm says a lot about Flash fans, and Flash anti-fans. lol.

sarcasm doesnt work on internet, true story
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 25 2009 11:01 GMT
#316
On August 25 2009 19:59 Orbifold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:56 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.

Lol youre full of shit.

No, I'm full of sarcasm ^_^


The fact people didn't get that this is sarcasm says a lot about Flash fans, and Flash anti-fans. lol.


Well if it was sarcasm then it went right over my head. That's been said so much lately and it's realy tiresome. =(
Remember Violet.
Orbifold
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1922 Posts
August 25 2009 11:01 GMT
#317
On August 25 2009 19:58 igotmyown wrote:
So, flash completely lost his initial push.
He failed to even hurt a single hatchery before effort got 4 gas and swarm.
He lost a bunch of early vessels.

And he wins? What happened to Ret's 4 gas zerg = autowin?


He took out a huge number of units, and he leveraged that unit advantage to keep Effort from getting too big. That push was pretty successful actually.
Allow me to reintroduce myself...
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
August 25 2009 11:02 GMT
#318
On August 25 2009 20:01 Orbifold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:58 igotmyown wrote:
So, flash completely lost his initial push.
He failed to even hurt a single hatchery before effort got 4 gas and swarm.
He lost a bunch of early vessels.

And he wins? What happened to Ret's 4 gas zerg = autowin?


He took out a huge number of units, and he leveraged that unit advantage to keep Effort from getting too big. That push was pretty successful actually.

yep, all effort had left was like 3 lurkers
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
August 25 2009 11:02 GMT
#319
Looks like bad news bears for Flash, Effort knows exactly what he's up to and is doing the right thing to counter it.

Pull something flashy, Flash!
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 25 2009 11:02 GMT
#320
On August 25 2009 20:00 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2009 19:59 Orbifold wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:56 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:54 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:53 okum wrote:
On August 25 2009 19:51 samachking wrote:
This is why Flash>Every single T late game TvZ, more people should seen the games vs July, his mechanics are out of this world.

But July played poorly. It's well known that Flash can't win against top level zergs.

Lol youre full of shit.

No, I'm full of sarcasm ^_^


The fact people didn't get that this is sarcasm says a lot about Flash fans, and Flash anti-fans. lol.

sarcasm doesnt work on internet, true story

it does, but many people are too stupid to notice it
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