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Killer Instinct
Profile Joined December 2008
Romania159 Posts
August 24 2009 11:07 GMT
#261
On August 24 2009 20:06 GinNtoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:04 Shikyo wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:03 OSWater wrote:
Oov's macro, and Boxer's dropship play.
How can anyone doubt fantasy? This guy has some SERIOUS talent.

Off 2 bases, he was at 1800 minerals.

Wow, that's a lot. I'd forgive anything up to 1k considering his playstyle, but that's a lot. Did you see his gascount at the time?


about 300 gas and 1800 minerals
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
August 24 2009 11:07 GMT
#262
On August 24 2009 20:06 GinNtoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:04 Shikyo wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:03 OSWater wrote:
Oov's macro, and Boxer's dropship play.
How can anyone doubt fantasy? This guy has some SERIOUS talent.

Off 2 bases, he was at 1800 minerals.

Wow, that's a lot. I'd forgive anything up to 1k considering his playstyle, but that's a lot. Did you see his gascount at the time?


He was above 1k for most of the time during the game. Gas count doesnt matter much considering he was on 2 shop 8 no shop. His gas was low though, around 300-500.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
August 24 2009 11:08 GMT
#263
On August 24 2009 20:06 Rostam wrote:
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On August 24 2009 20:05 geod wrote:
He is the undisputed best terran right now. Go Fantasy!


I'm not sure you know what undisputed means.

I'm not sure he does know what best Terran means either...
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
August 24 2009 11:08 GMT
#264
On August 24 2009 20:05 geod wrote:
He is the undisputed best terran right now. Go Fantasy!


Not quite, there is this guy named Flash who is pretty good.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 24 2009 11:08 GMT
#265
On August 24 2009 20:08 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:05 geod wrote:
He is the undisputed best terran right now. Go Fantasy!


Not quite, there is this guy named Flash who is pretty good.

dont forget Leta!
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SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
August 24 2009 11:09 GMT
#266
I think his Depots didnt build fast enough to keep his min count down.

btw. read the article about oovs macro.. he was also very often above 1k.
Bisu... ;-(
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 24 2009 11:09 GMT
#267
Anyway anyway, having to get ~ 10 facs when you can't really support even 8 doesn't really say "good macro" to me. Rather, it is a sign of bad macro. :/ The more production facilities before maxed, the worse macro.
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 24 2009 11:09 GMT
#268
On August 24 2009 20:08 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:08 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:05 geod wrote:
He is the undisputed best terran right now. Go Fantasy!


Not quite, there is this guy named Flash who is pretty good.

dont forget Leta!

Leta doesn't belong in Flash/Fantasy's group.
God Bless
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
August 24 2009 11:10 GMT
#269
Fantasy has never been the best terran, neither has Leta, the best Terran has been Flash for like 2 years. And Kal has the weakest PvT of the dragons.
Toolshed
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
337 Posts
August 24 2009 11:10 GMT
#270
I'm asking myself what the commentators are joking about, than I figured out:

Com 1: You know the best way to get rid of muta harass?
Com 2: Yes, yes, yes! Storm your own probes and hope you hit one of those flying bastards!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 24 2009 11:10 GMT
#271
On August 24 2009 20:08 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:08 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:05 geod wrote:
He is the undisputed best terran right now. Go Fantasy!


Not quite, there is this guy named Flash who is pretty good.

dont forget Leta!

I wouldn't put Leta up there with Fantasy and Flash.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
August 24 2009 11:10 GMT
#272
On August 24 2009 20:10 mog87 wrote:
Fantasy has never been the best terran, neither has Leta, the best Terran has been Flash for like 2 years. And Kal has the weakest PvT of the dragons.

are you serious ?!
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 24 2009 11:10 GMT
#273
On August 24 2009 20:09 SkytoM wrote:
I think his Depots didnt build fast enough to keep his min count down.

btw. read the article about oovs macro.. he was also very often above 1k.

Yeah, but his macro didn't come from producing perfectly. He just had a fuckton more resources so it didn't matter.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Pit667
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland130 Posts
August 24 2009 11:11 GMT
#274
On August 24 2009 20:09 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:08 icystorage wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:08 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:05 geod wrote:
He is the undisputed best terran right now. Go Fantasy!


Not quite, there is this guy named Flash who is pretty good.

dont forget Leta!

Leta doesn't belong in Flash/Fantasy's group.



True
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 24 2009 11:11 GMT
#275
On August 24 2009 20:11 Pit667 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:09 Roffles wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:08 icystorage wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:08 Aus)MaCrO wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:05 geod wrote:
He is the undisputed best terran right now. Go Fantasy!


Not quite, there is this guy named Flash who is pretty good.

dont forget Leta!

Leta doesn't belong in Flash/Fantasy's group.



True

he still belongs on kespa top 5
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
August 24 2009 11:12 GMT
#276
Kal 12 nex?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 24 2009 11:13 GMT
#277
All right guys, I'll throw in a prediction: Fantasy goes for fast upgrades and a fast third base with drop ship harrass while maxing in 13 mins and his +2/+1 will finish at the same time and he'll roll over Kal. Kal will go fast arbs off 2-3 bases.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
August 24 2009 11:13 GMT
#278
On August 24 2009 20:10 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:10 mog87 wrote:
Fantasy has never been the best terran, neither has Leta, the best Terran has been Flash for like 2 years. And Kal has the weakest PvT of the dragons.

are you serious ?!



Yea, Im serious, personally I think his style is beter than Best's but Best is alot more effective even with his same ol' 2 base arbiter recall on top of factories gameplan, which he basically uses every game.
OSWater
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1343 Posts
August 24 2009 11:14 GMT
#279
On August 24 2009 20:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:03 OSWater wrote:
Oov's macro, and Boxer's dropship play.
How can anyone doubt fantasy? This guy has some SERIOUS talent.

Off 2 bases, he was at 1800 minerals.

He also had 150 food supply when Kal had only 50.
He also destroyed most his base.
I wouldnt be macroing hard either.
Douglas is the king of the mountain, and the mountain is great
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
August 24 2009 11:15 GMT
#280
On August 24 2009 20:14 OSWater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2009 20:04 Shikyo wrote:
On August 24 2009 20:03 OSWater wrote:
Oov's macro, and Boxer's dropship play.
How can anyone doubt fantasy? This guy has some SERIOUS talent.

Off 2 bases, he was at 1800 minerals.

He also had 150 food supply when Kal had only 50.
He also destroyed most his base.
I wouldnt be macroing hard either.


He was talking about the midgame part where he was dropping and kal was ahead in supply
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
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