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nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:06:27
August 21 2009 23:06 GMT
#1361
=( no beta boooooooooo
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51600 Posts
August 21 2009 23:06 GMT
#1362
NO BOOS
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starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 21 2009 23:06 GMT
#1363
On August 22 2009 08:05 PokePill wrote:
Warcraft III wasn't always like this. Orc mirror has always been the worst to watch of all the matchups, and even then it still used to be enjoyable to watch.. (FS / FL, Wyverns, etc.). Blizzard did this to the game through 4 years of shit patches, the BW community is lucky that Blizzard doesn't butcher it every 2 years with unneeded changes.

im done trying to deffend wc3. o-well.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 21 2009 23:08 GMT
#1364
On August 22 2009 08:04 starPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:01 Shikyo wrote:
Oh my god, Orc mirror is like a combination of TvT turtling and ZvZ lack of economy. Not to mention ~25 damage a hit and 700hp = oh my god.

u dont know shit. in wc3 u do ur best to get ur units to match damage - armor type for ovo it would be
Grunts focus raiders
Raiders Focus walkers
Walkers focus Grunts.
Then u got to manage how u want to use your blademaster and use ur healwaves + heal scrolls. making sure ur hero doesnt get in bad posistion or certain units like kodos cause they will get owned quite fast.
Also moving damaged units back and back into fight to avoid certain focus fire. same goes for heroes. even seeing that before it happens is some of the micro. wc3 micro is very complicated

This doesn't change the fact that you turtle a lot and don't expand and have 700hp units and 25 damage attacks. I know you're supposed to do that, how does that make it interesting? And how's that complicated, anyway? Moving damaged units back and focus firing and using skills is extremely basic, especially if you have no macro to worry about.

This doesn't change the watchability, though. And that really isn't as complicated as you make it out to be.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
August 21 2009 23:08 GMT
#1365
SC2 map editor will be more powerful than W3
우리는 대-한민국입니다
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 21 2009 23:10 GMT
#1366
Haha 12 different versions of dota. So true~
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
August 21 2009 23:10 GMT
#1367
Wtf more DLC crap.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 21 2009 23:10 GMT
#1368
What the hell, paying money for maps?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#1369
You can sell your maps? O_O woa... but I don't like it :p
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51600 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:11:53
August 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#1370
LOL map makers are going to start selling them selves out
i bet you kespa will be like lol sup, here are the 6 latest maps out of korea, $5 to play on them.
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starPride
Profile Joined June 2009
United States142 Posts
August 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#1371
On August 22 2009 08:08 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:04 starPride wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:01 Shikyo wrote:
Oh my god, Orc mirror is like a combination of TvT turtling and ZvZ lack of economy. Not to mention ~25 damage a hit and 700hp = oh my god.

u dont know shit. in wc3 u do ur best to get ur units to match damage - armor type for ovo it would be
Grunts focus raiders
Raiders Focus walkers
Walkers focus Grunts.
Then u got to manage how u want to use your blademaster and use ur healwaves + heal scrolls. making sure ur hero doesnt get in bad posistion or certain units like kodos cause they will get owned quite fast.
Also moving damaged units back and back into fight to avoid certain focus fire. same goes for heroes. even seeing that before it happens is some of the micro. wc3 micro is very complicated

This doesn't change the fact that you turtle a lot and don't expand and have 700hp units and 25 damage attacks. I know you're supposed to do that, how does that make it interesting? And how's that complicated, anyway? Moving damaged units back and focus firing and using skills is extremely basic, especially if you have no macro to worry about.

This doesn't change the watchability, though. And that really isn't as complicated as you make it out to be.

Its very hard to execute properly and on top of that its isnt as simple as taking ur grunts and right clicking raiders. if u just right cilcked ur grunts could be blocked for atleast 12+ seconds till they get to the raiders. but with individual micro it could be 3-4 seconds. or less and u have to do this with ur whole army.
and u never turtle in wc3. ever unless ur human idk where u get this idea from.
Toolshed
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
337 Posts
August 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#1372

Well, all these gimmicks are pretty neat but the thing i'd really like to see is SC2 with LANspeed settings. This game is like 2 times better if you have the opportunity to micro properly
ocho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States172 Posts
August 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#1373
Lmao who doesn't love DRM?
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#1374
On August 22 2009 08:11 G.s)NarutO wrote:
You can sell your maps? O_O woa... but I don't like it :p


Sounds kinda stupid tbh nobody will be playing on anything but the default maps if they have to pay to play on other maps.
Hi.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#1375
On August 22 2009 08:11 G.s)NarutO wrote:
You can sell your maps? O_O woa... but I don't like it :p


real questions is WHY??
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Wotans_Fire
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom294 Posts
August 21 2009 23:13 GMT
#1376
Everything is going to cost now paying for maps wtf
"OMG this is pivotal!" ~ Tasteless "Indeed" ~ Artosis
ocho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States172 Posts
August 21 2009 23:13 GMT
#1377
Because Blizzard gets a cut.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 21 2009 23:14 GMT
#1378
Okay, I guess this DLC is not as bad as I thought. Most of the stuff we're used to will still be free. Only stuff that approaches total conversion mods would be payed for.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
August 21 2009 23:14 GMT
#1379
On August 22 2009 08:11 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:11 G.s)NarutO wrote:
You can sell your maps? O_O woa... but I don't like it :p


real questions is WHY??

It's easy equatable to the iPhone app store. There are free games but there's also more professional games that are worth a dollar or a couple dollars. The size of custom maps and a custom game on the iPhone is pretty similar.
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zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
August 21 2009 23:14 GMT
#1380
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