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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51689 Posts
August 21 2009 23:15 GMT
#1381
questions for 15 minutes: when will beta be out.
Commentator
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:15 GMT
#1382
Blizzard is imbalanced.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Odies
Profile Joined July 2003
Denmark275 Posts
August 21 2009 23:15 GMT
#1383
You're allowed not to like war3 because you think it's boring, the pacing is very different from sc and it certainly doesn't appeal to everyone. But when you make up bullshit reasons for not liking it instead of just accepting that it's not for you, it makes you look stupid
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:15 GMT
#1384
On August 22 2009 08:15 GTR wrote:
questions for 15 minutes: when will beta be out.


The only question for the next 15 minutes? haha^^
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:20:32
August 21 2009 23:15 GMT
#1385
From bnet 2.0 developer panel:

Been taking screenshots for the last past hour, got the majority of them down.

download link: http://www.isaacts.com/bnet2.0.rar

If you don't have winrar: http://www.rarlab.com/

In total 25 screenshots, enjoy.

edit: here's the image directory if you want to view them online - http://www.isaacts.com/bnet2/
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:16 GMT
#1386
On August 22 2009 08:15 Odies wrote:
You're allowed not to like war3 because you think it's boring, the pacing is very different from sc and it certainly doesn't appeal to everyone. But when you make up bullshit reasons for not liking it instead of just accepting that it's not for you, it makes you look stupid


Can you tell me who does hold the advantage right now? and maybe explain what they are doing? besides creeping and teching?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
August 21 2009 23:16 GMT
#1387
On August 22 2009 08:06 starPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:05 PokePill wrote:
Warcraft III wasn't always like this. Orc mirror has always been the worst to watch of all the matchups, and even then it still used to be enjoyable to watch.. (FS / FL, Wyverns, etc.). Blizzard did this to the game through 4 years of shit patches, the BW community is lucky that Blizzard doesn't butcher it every 2 years with unneeded changes.

im done trying to deffend wc3. o-well.


You're acting dumb, most people are arguing it's boring as hell to watch, not that microing is difficult. You're defending something that can't be defended, War3 IS boring to watch now and the game has been dead a very long time.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
August 21 2009 23:16 GMT
#1388
Someone needs to ask about LAN -_-
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51689 Posts
August 21 2009 23:17 GMT
#1389
this fat guy LOL
Commentator
Odies
Profile Joined July 2003
Denmark275 Posts
August 21 2009 23:17 GMT
#1390
On August 22 2009 08:16 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:15 Odies wrote:
You're allowed not to like war3 because you think it's boring, the pacing is very different from sc and it certainly doesn't appeal to everyone. But when you make up bullshit reasons for not liking it instead of just accepting that it's not for you, it makes you look stupid


Can you tell me who does hold the advantage right now? and maybe explain what they are doing? besides creeping and teching?


Sorry been cooking dinner all this game, can't really comment too much on it
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 21 2009 23:17 GMT
#1391
On August 22 2009 08:11 starPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:08 Shikyo wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:04 starPride wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:01 Shikyo wrote:
Oh my god, Orc mirror is like a combination of TvT turtling and ZvZ lack of economy. Not to mention ~25 damage a hit and 700hp = oh my god.

u dont know shit. in wc3 u do ur best to get ur units to match damage - armor type for ovo it would be
Grunts focus raiders
Raiders Focus walkers
Walkers focus Grunts.
Then u got to manage how u want to use your blademaster and use ur healwaves + heal scrolls. making sure ur hero doesnt get in bad posistion or certain units like kodos cause they will get owned quite fast.
Also moving damaged units back and back into fight to avoid certain focus fire. same goes for heroes. even seeing that before it happens is some of the micro. wc3 micro is very complicated

This doesn't change the fact that you turtle a lot and don't expand and have 700hp units and 25 damage attacks. I know you're supposed to do that, how does that make it interesting? And how's that complicated, anyway? Moving damaged units back and focus firing and using skills is extremely basic, especially if you have no macro to worry about.

This doesn't change the watchability, though. And that really isn't as complicated as you make it out to be.

Its very hard to execute properly and on top of that its isnt as simple as taking ur grunts and right clicking raiders. if u just right cilcked ur grunts could be blocked for atleast 12+ seconds till they get to the raiders. but with individual micro it could be 3-4 seconds. or less and u have to do this with ur whole army.
and u never turtle in wc3. ever unless ur human idk where u get this idea from.

I guess we're misunderstanding "turtling", then. I guess the right term is avoiding engagement. Why would you make every seperate grunt attack a seperate rider, why not attempt to surround and focus it down? And where'd you get those seconds from, it makes no sense. Or does your unit speed go up to 4x if you control your unit individually instead of in a group? -_- Also, your whole army of? 2 control groups of 2 heroes and ~8 units each? Wow, that sounds difficult.

TT Grubby losing??
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 21 2009 23:17 GMT
#1392
Ahh okay, the reason for it is that they want to encourage the really really good map designers to keep making maps for SC2 instead of going over to other services like steam which apparently offers money to the most popular maps in their games.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 21 2009 23:18 GMT
#1393
On August 22 2009 08:17 GTR wrote:
this fat guy LOL

Doesn't have internet.
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
August 21 2009 23:18 GMT
#1394
suck it up hacker, you wont be able to "import" your stats
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
August 21 2009 23:18 GMT
#1395
some basics of wc3:
you have to pay for your foodcount, that means if you go above 50 population you only gain 70% percent gold, if you go above 75 you only gain 30 % gold income. that means, having big armys is bad for your economy. this means you have to plan when you attack and as short as possible you can before you mass. so training units is just to reach and stay at 50 foodcount.
next thing is the hero and the experience. everyunit that dies gives exp to a close hero of the killing fraction. that doubles the effect in a fight, since you get stronger and other loses units. also the hero is much stronger then other units, he gets even more power in the way of the game by killing creeps, the neutral units, or units of the opponent. the hero can get to level 10, what will hardly ever happen in a progamer match, but a big boost is level 6 where he gets a special ability that is even stronger than his normal spells.
what does that mean ? you dont wanna loose units to feed enemy making him bigger, and want to kill units to grow. so you send wounded units in fights back home or just micro them away out of focus to not die and try to heal them. also you kill neutrals to gain exp because they dont run away like ur opponent would, and you dodge the danger of feeding the other player aswell by losing units yourself to him.
another point is nearly every unit has a ability you have to time and autocasting would be waste, if its not healing, so you have to cast alot and have a mass of timings in you head.

nevertheless starcraft is by far more entertaining
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51689 Posts
August 21 2009 23:19 GMT
#1396
why is everyone from wow asking questions
Commentator
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 21 2009 23:19 GMT
#1397
Yeah fuck cheaters.. thats nice blizzard =D
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 21 2009 23:19 GMT
#1398
Poor Australian.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:20 GMT
#1399
`Fucking good question from the Australian guy!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:20 GMT
#1400
Who won wc3 btw?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
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