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! Day[9] Podcasts E14: TvZ on Heartbreak Ridge - Page 16

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PlutoNZ
Profile Joined February 2008
New Zealand410 Posts
April 22 2009 13:22 GMT
#301
Thanks so much. I love listening to your audios.

Keep up the good work!
ReCharge
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Philippines505 Posts
April 22 2009 13:46 GMT
#302
<3 Thank You!
David Kim for Bonjwa!
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 15:09:48
April 22 2009 15:00 GMT
#303
Thanks for the new podcast.

*changed my question*

I have a question here, and this is really holding back my play.

I'm a D player but pretty good in ZvP, I beat D+ players and can often challange C- players in ZvP. The match up is so clear for me. Get hydras and a few mutas. Deny his 3rd. Exp alot. Switch to ultra-ling. Win.

But in ZvT I get SO SO lost. From time to time it isn't even funny. I set there and just feel confused for some reason. I set up a game plan. 3hat mutas, lurkerling and then end the game with ultraling, spiced with lurkers. I know what I need to do to win, but I still get really confused and stressed out AS SOON as I see his MnM army move out. I lose my micro AND my macro. Sometimes I go up to 2k minerals, then add 3 hatches just to get rid of minerals and then he runs me over.

So quite a big build up for this seemingly basic question:
Have you ever been in a situation where you just feel that you're completely and utterly confused by a MU? And if so, what did you do to get out of it?

I've tried massgaming but it just doesn't get better.
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 17:05:58
April 22 2009 15:08 GMT
#304
Thanks, keep up the good work day~

Note that I'm going to go listen now but I know they'll be good!

edit:
aaaaaand I watched it
it was as great as expected, thanks again!
Gnojfatelob
Profile Joined April 2008
Belgium216 Posts
April 22 2009 15:51 GMT
#305
On April 21 2009 02:51 Gnojfatelob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 02:44 AttackZerg wrote:
SEAN! Dude I can't hit f5 every 15 minutes for 2 days straight.

The time is now sir! Podcast Please!


You announced one on the blog, a new podcast and it is not here yet? I need a fix badly. Did you start working for blizzard all of the sudden?




I stand corrected, half an hour podcast. Is more then worth the wait. Gratz to you Day[9]
Probably the best starcraft player in the world
StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
April 22 2009 16:08 GMT
#306
Great casts Day[9] ^_^

Though when you talked about hotkeys it made me start wondering about mine..
I play Terran and my hotkeys are the same ones i used when i used to play Protoss but i think sometimes they dont work as they should
1) dropships/vessels
2/5/6/7) Unit hotkeys
3/4) buildings
8/9/0)scanners

yeah they are kind of similar to the ones you mentioned but do you think i should change them?
A Combination Of Tuberculosis And A Tomahawk To The Head:: Nothing Bonds Drunken Idiots Like Sexual Innuendos ::
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
April 22 2009 16:15 GMT
#307
3 at once? All is forgiven. Downloading now!
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
April 22 2009 16:19 GMT
#308
I'm know you didn't pick this topic to talk about because I asked for it but thank you anyway I'm a new player and this stuff is what I'm trying to get better at because I really don't want to rely on gimmicks and I'm convinced that mechanics are what determine that outcome of most of the games I play (not so much, perhaps, in ZvZ even at D levels.)

In fact, I've actually noticed a stronger correlation between "Macro APM" in bwchart and who wins the game than between the winner and overall APM.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 17:06:20
April 22 2009 16:43 GMT
#309
Oh my god. You're best Day.


Wow, listening to this.


Not so much learning stuf as ....


Hearing explicitly things that took me years to learn and reinforcing my good habits (Like, binded (bound?) unit groups with two hands for about 4 years, then one hand w/ thumb and middle for a 2 yrs, then just recently like you said).

You're awesome. Keep it coming!
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 17:09:52
April 22 2009 17:08 GMT
#310
Can anyone go into more detail about the putting pressure on the bone in the lower corner of your hand? I'm not sure I followed that in the audio. A text or better still text+picture explanation would be appreciated.
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
April 22 2009 17:25 GMT
#311
Resting your mouse hand on that bone is one really awesome tips. I think my apm just went up by 15%.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Ry-Masta-T
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States478 Posts
April 22 2009 17:43 GMT
#312
omfg awesome. Thx homes
Speak the word...
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
April 22 2009 17:48 GMT
#313
Just listened it, it was great. Even if I was using most of the stuff you mentioned already, it was great to see you're using these too.

All your podcasts are insightful, thanks.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
April 22 2009 18:33 GMT
#314
On April 23 2009 02:48 FirstBorn wrote:
Just listened it, it was great. Even if I was using most of the stuff you mentioned already, it was great to see you're using these too.

All your podcasts are insightful, thanks.

Hm, I kinda felt more disappointed that I already do all of this right, but still my mechanics are horrible. No quick fix for slow hands I guess. :/
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
April 22 2009 18:35 GMT
#315
sir, im always impressed with your willingness to help others get better, thank you.

but i have a question for everyone. I've had vista for over a year, and ive always played with "enhance pointer percision" on. at the fastest speed. i listend though, and i switched it. i find that its FASTER for sure, so i could turn it down about 3 notches to get what im used to as far as speed.

can you give a brief explanation of what this does? why its better for starcraft to be OFF? i mean, its different, and i really cant tell why- but im trusting the pro here. it certinaly hasnt been detrimental to my game againt a couple computers. what am i doing by taking that off? THANK YOU in advance for answers.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 18:48:15
April 22 2009 18:47 GMT
#316
If you're on XP,
Rid yourself of mouse accel.
Here's how you do it:

+ Show Spoiler +
To completely remove mouse acceleration from XP, you will need to go into the registry and adjust the SmoothmouseXYCurve values. Here is how its done.

1. Click Start button
2. Select Run
3. Type 'regedit' in the open textbox
4. Open the tree 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER', select control panel, then select mouse
5. Right clicking, modify the SmoothMouseXCurve and SmoothMouseYCurve hexidecimal values to the following:

SmoothMouseXCurve:
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
00,a0,00,00,00,00,00,00
00,40,01,00,00,00,00,00
00,80,02,00,00,00,00,00
00,00,05,00,00,00,00,00

SmoothMouseYCurve:
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
66,a6,02,00,00,00,00,00
cd,4c,05,00,00,00,00,00
a0,99,0a,00,00,00,00,00
38,33,15,00,00,00,00,00

If done correctly, you will notice you are holding a markedly more responsive mouse.


Awesome stuff Day[9].
You give out inspiration.
And motivation.
<3
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
April 22 2009 18:52 GMT
#317
On April 23 2009 02:08 Strayline wrote:
Can anyone go into more detail about the putting pressure on the bone in the lower corner of your hand? I'm not sure I followed that in the audio. A text or better still text+picture explanation would be appreciated.


here it is on the Hand, just between wrist and hand.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


here is a great shot of FBH with a mark right there, from playing 20 hours a day.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 22 2009 19:22 GMT
#318
Day[9]

I cheked my finger positioning and found out that i group my untits the same way you do, but when i have to group mutalisks and shift+add mutas or larvae or ovie or anything i make that move you strongly contra-idicated, using my thumb to press down the ctrl key (and the shift key). How do you manage your mutas? You use the left pinky in this case too? for both keys?

Thanks for this mechanic podcast, i hope you could asnwer my additional question

Cheers
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
April 22 2009 19:25 GMT
#319
Good straightforward talk.
I don't recall you talking much about diffrent mice and grips though.
I would recommend this article by razor:
http://www2.razerzone.com/MouseGuide/html/advantages.php
The samosa is pretty much THE SC mouse to have for many, and people should understand why.
| www.ArtofProtoss.vze.com |
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 19:34:01
April 22 2009 19:32 GMT
#320
Great Podcast again Day[9]!
I have always been interested in mouse control/accuracy so I knew allot already although the problem I am having is that my Desktop sensitivity IS NOT THE SAME as in Starcraft. So I can practice all I want on my desktop as soon as i go into starcraft its a fucking disaster again. I think this is because of the resolution changes from 1680x1050 to 640x480. My mouse becomes way way faster when i start starcraft, do you guys have this problem or is it just me and what could i do about it ? And yes I have mouse acceleration completely disabled .
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