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coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
April 08 2009 17:32 GMT
#961
i have nothing else than thank you for this, i have played some years as zerg, this last month i have been playing terran only and have a lot of doubts, so i really hope this vods and ur faq will help me a lot.
Jävla skit
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
April 08 2009 17:44 GMT
#962
On April 08 2009 05:46 Tbake wrote:
Ahhh ok. Also do you have a good way of dealing with zerg putting a sunken at ur base on colo, where the zerg creep can be placed down. I played a game when I was going mech, and he put a early sunken there with lings, and knocked off my 2 depots.


you just need a bunker on the high ground of your nat expo
And all is illuminated.
beenizzle
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States141 Posts
April 08 2009 21:13 GMT
#963
im having a hard time justifying when to make a push after toss get 3rd @ a normal timing. i usually get run over by toos units. im guessing maybe before i push i should check gatesways and send a few scvs around the map to check out the size of his army.
yesterday came suddenly
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-08 21:18:40
April 08 2009 21:18 GMT
#964
On April 09 2009 06:13 beenizzle wrote:
im having a hard time justifying when to make a push after toss get 3rd @ a normal timing. i usually get run over by toos units. im guessing maybe before i push i should check gatesways and send a few scvs around the map to check out the size of his army.


I give you this tip: As a beginner / semi-beginner (I'm don't know your rank/skill just assuming) you should play this by following your feelings

Feel the time to push, and do it! If you don't succeed, look at the replay. Where did I go wrong? Did I go too late? Did I go too early? Did I not macro good enough? Was he just way better than me? Did I do some missmicro that cost me the battle?

Look at Day[9]'s guide about how to make your own build order, imo the things he said applies here too.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
JYGrk
Profile Joined January 2009
United States8 Posts
April 09 2009 03:35 GMT
#965
ur the best.....
to be honest I can beat anyone
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
April 09 2009 03:35 GMT
#966
thank you stylish.............

btw your comp's a nigga....|\|1664
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
April 09 2009 16:11 GMT
#967
I think the counter to your last VOD is as easiest as surround the sunk with drones...
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 09 2009 17:05 GMT
#968
On April 10 2009 01:11 Battle wrote:
I think the counter to your last VOD is as easiest as surround the sunk with drones...


Yeah thats definately a good idea. :D
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
April 10 2009 00:18 GMT
#969
I told you because i just played a guy who did to me and he couldnt kill my only sunken...
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 00:39:57
April 10 2009 00:37 GMT
#970
On April 10 2009 09:18 Battle wrote:
I told you because i just played a guy who did to me and he couldnt kill my only sunken...


My last VOD was the nukestrategy, please pull drones to the sunkenline :D
But I guess you're talking about the roflstrat?
If so, then no you have to have 2 sunkens finnished and have drones+lings ready.
If you know it's coming you can just place 2 sunkens ASAP as your hatch finnishes and you'll be fine, but it's really hard to see it coming.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
April 10 2009 00:51 GMT
#971
Hey Stylish, what's the proper response in a TVZ on Destination where you discover that the Z-player is going 1-base lurkers?
Graphics
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 10 2009 06:52 GMT
#972
SilverskY:
1base lurkers is a bad strategy and I don't think you will encounter it that much on the higher levels.
You can simply do a 2rax build with bunker at the ramp and a turret. Beware for slowdrop aswell, place the suplydepots to have vision over droplocations and 1 turret aswell.
Research armor while you tech towards a tank and a vessel usually.

If you spot it in time I guess you could do 2port wraith aswell. His 1 hatchery will provide very low econ and if u can get dronekills he will die. If doing this, ofcourse still add bunker + turret at the ramp and make sure to snipe any overlords close to your base.

Im going away for the weekend and ill be back on monday. Gl hf everyone.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
April 10 2009 08:39 GMT
#973
STYLISH NOOOOO, DON'T LEAVE ME...
Graphics
ZzZzAnG
Profile Joined May 2008
United States109 Posts
April 10 2009 17:45 GMT
#974
hey can you post bo that you used in freestyle game 3?please? :D thnx a lot
ZoMg -,.-
JYGrk
Profile Joined January 2009
United States8 Posts
April 11 2009 19:33 GMT
#975
YOUR THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!
to be honest I can beat anyone
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
April 12 2009 13:54 GMT
#976
Hey Stylish, do you even thought to do a live stream like ret, Lzgamer or RaGe ?
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 12 2009 14:56 GMT
#977
On April 07 2009 08:10 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2009 06:24 ZeKk wrote:
On April 07 2009 01:27 StylishVODs wrote:
On April 06 2009 23:38 ZeKk wrote:
Hi again stylish. I was wondering about the EE timing push or whatever it's called. I have practise it and have the right timing for it. But yet before I can attack the zerg especially on crossposition I have notice they have lurkers done before I get a chance to attack zerg. Lurkers and mutas just eats me when I try to break he's sunkenline. Thus I can't aplicate this strategy. How should I adapet in the best way if the zerg have earlier lurkers then the provided timing of the EE push?

If they have lurkers up most of the time your timing is wrong. Try to move out earlier and be outside his base when 1-1 hits.
If he already has lurkers you're abit behind, but 1-1 marines is good to micro against lurkers and you should be able to attack an expansion atleast.
Then transistion into 2fact usually while keeping mapcontrol with the marines.


Yea I tried to move out in time. I used ur game vs sortof as a model of this timing push. But in ur solo builder order game u were 10 seconds earlier in ur attack than against Sortof. So I didnt use that as a mall since no games goes perfectly. The zerg I meet build hydralisk den earlier then Sortof and build a 2-3 fewer mutalisk so he could afford to reachsearch lurker aspect earlier, thus he had he's lurker done by 8:30. So it's really just a couple of seconds diffrently then ur timing attack vs Sortof. This strategy is really on the marginals. What would you say is the timing window for this push?


10 seconds:D If you play vs someone who techs to lurkers faster than usual, dont do this build.
I don't use it as a standard build.
Although its really good if they do the normal timings, i actually beat F91 using this very strategy.

This virus is really killing me, i will probably have to buy a new computer before i can record more vods.. however i can still play and ill upload replaypacks when i get a good amount of games.


And this is why Stylish is top foreign TvZ!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
April 13 2009 06:42 GMT
#978
am i seeing things or was the 2port wraith game against incontrol
ZeKk
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sweden320 Posts
April 13 2009 18:18 GMT
#979
On April 13 2009 15:42 Cube wrote:
am i seeing things or was the 2port wraith game against incontrol


Yes it was ^^
Noah
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway164 Posts
April 14 2009 06:48 GMT
#980
On March 06 2009 13:21 Phyre wrote:
Thanks again for the VODs, it really is incredibly helpful! I copied down some of the BOs onto sticky notes and I've been following them as I play and I think it's been a huge help.

If I could make a request though, do you think you could include a little info on when you would and wouldn't use each build? I know you covered this a little bit in some of the vods like the Fantasy build is designed to work best against 3 hatch muta and the 2 fac->gols variation is for countering 2 hatch muta. However, if you could mention this kind of info for the other builds in the OP that would be great! Might be asking too much but if you could touch on what maps they are best suited for that would be awesome also.

Also, one specific question. I've been trying out the TvP 5fac push and I'm curious why do you use the FD-like opening instead of a Siege expand? If you could touch on the pros/cons that would be great. I've always been more comfortable with siege expand and most people I've spoken to say FD is outdated and sucks, especially on Python/ramp maps, but you seem to use it anyway.


I just wanted to bump this great post since Phyre posted everything I would.
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