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On March 05 2009 21:23 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
d1v and silversky yes it was inc however this is not done to brag or anything, just think of it as vs a good player to show that the strategy is viable. He was at B+ same as the other guy and the game ended faster than it should because he wasn't aware of the strategy i guess. He's still a very good player and Im sure that if we meet again the games will be much better!
Yeah, not to take anything away from inc, he's a badass player. I just wanted to point out that the strategy can work against very good players as well. Oh btw, you don't happen to be looking for a job as a DJ, because I could use somebody with extremely cool mixerskills  Nah, jk, keep up the awesome work, looking forward to seeing more of your stuff!
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On March 06 2009 05:38 d1v wrote:Oh btw, you don't happen to be looking for a job as a DJ, because I could use somebody with extremely cool mixerskills
Get in line...
Reps and BuildLists has been updated in the OP.
2hatch Counter Bo-VOD is also updated.
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A-Yu-Mi BO-VOD is also broken
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On March 06 2009 07:39 KimTaeYeon wrote:
A-Yu-Mi BO-VOD is also broken
So is the TvZ 9 minute push game vod and build vod. This is the one I really wanted lol!
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I'm on it.
Currently also working on a new 9Min Push game and how to follow up if zerg stays on lair tech.
But now its sleeptime and tomorrow work probably.
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On March 06 2009 08:07 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
I'm on it.
Currently also working on a new 9Min Push game and how to follow up if zerg stays on lair tech.
But now its sleeptime and tomorrow work probably.
no worries, take your time and thx~~
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I want to thank all of you for your support! I check this thread alot and it makes me happy to see that people are content with the material. Makes me want to do more VODs!
I dare to say I will have enough time to record alot of VODs this weekend.
Ill try hard to get some TvT and TvP up aswell.
Hopefully General Tips TvP up on saturday but not sure.
Also I'm not sure how to do with the replaypacks yet. As it is now I'm thinking i'd better wait to pile up like 15+ reps of each strategy before posting them since they're going to be in a reppack. I've already played 50 games on iccup (on different accounts, but ill stick to one this weekend) but its a big mixture between good and bad players so far..
Good night guys! 
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We appricate ur work alot! I wish you had time to check my replay though..
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Thanks again for the VODs, it really is incredibly helpful! I copied down some of the BOs onto sticky notes and I've been following them as I play and I think it's been a huge help.
If I could make a request though, do you think you could include a little info on when you would and wouldn't use each build? I know you covered this a little bit in some of the vods like the Fantasy build is designed to work best against 3 hatch muta and the 2 fac->gols variation is for countering 2 hatch muta. However, if you could mention this kind of info for the other builds in the OP that would be great! Might be asking too much but if you could touch on what maps they are best suited for that would be awesome also.
Also, one specific question. I've been trying out the TvP 5fac push and I'm curious why do you use the FD-like opening instead of a Siege expand? If you could touch on the pros/cons that would be great. I've always been more comfortable with siege expand and most people I've spoken to say FD is outdated and sucks, especially on Python/ramp maps, but you seem to use it anyway.
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Stylish...I finally took the time to read your whole justification for your iCCup abuse. Although there were a couple times where I feel like you didn't make the best decision, in the end, I support you wholeheartedly. You had good intentions, and a good heart, and that really does matter. Thanks so much for your contributions.
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Thanks Centric I'm glad to hear that.
I'm currently reuploading some VODs that are broken.
A-yu-mi Bo-VOD updated
TvP FlashStrat Bo-VOD updated
also there is now Buildorderlists for almost all vods.
If you try to download a VOD and it doesn't work please let me know so I can reupload them ASAP. Also if anyone knows a place where I can upload files that stay longer please tell.
I got a PM from Yaqoob offering that he would make a torrent out of the VODs and that would be great, so props to him for that.
Im starting to make the TvP General Tips this weekend. If you have any specific question you'd like to be answered please post here.
For example: Tvp general question: How do you hotkey your factories? etc
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My first post, I had to reg, just to say thanks for those great VODs, you rock Stylish!
I just picked up SC again after been 6-7 years idle or so. I only plays against RL friends however, and they all are little stronger than me as they had play more over the last years.
My old BO: 2 rax -> Academy early M&M pressure with really late CC (with today’s standard) was just little outdated so this thread helped me out a lot.
I have work on your EE timing a lot I never got the timing correct in real games but I like strong mariners to be able to fight a few lurkers without tanks, but I often ended up getting contained with MASS lurkers. My scout die to early as I suck, so I always ends up with scanning and well.. SHIT! 2 hatch with hydra den and I have no tech but 4 rax. I use to build 2 bunkers in neutral + turret and well he will contain with mass lurkers take a expand and tech straight to dark swarm over my bunkers in netrual.. -> GG
I know I should run to his neutral and pressure with M&M to win time to tech up when he slowly pressure out with lurkers but I never seen to do it.
So my question is: Are there any good BO to counter fast 2 hatch lurkers build to mix in, if you know it will come with like 75% probability as my opponent know my muta defense is pretty solid at our levels (muta micro isn’t gosu either .. ). Or should I just practice my micro and let him leapfrog his lurker forward to my neutral and I should be ok?
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Arne:
Im gald you like the VODs. I have yet not covered any counter to 2hatch lurker. I will do a VOD of how to play vs lurkers sometime soon, hopefully this weekend. So be patient!
usually you could either play offensive and holding ground outside his base while you add bunkers at home and slowly tech for tanks or you could stay at home and add bunkers and go easy on the marineproduction while making a fast 2 factories.
But i will cover this better with a VOD.
The EE timing is actually very good and Haypro mentioned that he thinks it's actaully unstoppable if the zerg doesnt know its coming. Here is a replay of the very concept of the EE timing, where you attack just in time for him to morph lurkers, surround the lurkers and get an easy win.
However this was played like 4-5 months ago and the strategy was alittle different, I use 5 rax and the timing is abit later, but dont think too much of the Buildorder, because the one in my VOD is better in every way than this older version.
old EE Replay
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Update March 6
- TvZ 2Hach Counter Game is up!!
Enjoy!
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woot thnx alot for 2 hatch vod,recently played vs a lot of 2hatch zergs
edit:nice mixerskills once again!
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On March 06 2009 23:00 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
Im starting to make the TvP General Tips this weekend. If you have any specific question you'd like to be answered please post here.
For example: Tvp general question: How do you hotkey your factories? etc
I have a few questions.
1. Where/how should I place my turrets if I scout out a reaver drop?
2. What about a dark templar drop?
3. My previous post about proxy gateways and manner pylons turning into cannon/gateways.
4. Maybe a few small tips on how to move out with a big group of tanks/vultures against speed zealots/dragoons? Tips as in how to position, ratio of vultures to tanks and how much that ratio is affected by his ratio of zealots/goons, and any other tips you may have in mind.
5. I was watching old VODs of boxer and he does this micro trick where he has two tanks and a dropship and he drops them, lets them attack, and then picks them up before the particle animation from the goon/reaver attack hits the tank. I sort of figured out how to do this somewhat well, but I was wondering what the "proper" way is.
If I think of anything more, I'll add to the list and date/time the edits
EDIT #1 18:00 March 6th EST time (GMT -5)
6. How do you preform good gollie micro (shooting and moving away at the same time, and shooting and moving forward at the same time(i don't know if there's a difference between the two))? I've heard different variations but all of them lead to 1. not all firing, 2. not all focus firing (which is great if you can focus fire carriers, especially if the toss isn't microing the carriers).
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Thnx AtlaS I will deal with those questions!
Update 6 March
- TvZ ROFL Strat is up!! (...thats right)
Enjoy!!
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OMG, keeps getting better and better! Although, I actually only download this to see Stylishes mix0rskillz in action..
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On March 07 2009 08:59 d1v wrote:
OMG, keeps getting better and better! Although, I actually only download this to see Stylishes mix0rskillz in action..
yeah, like the roflstrat game mixorskillz are insane, look at the timing of music/events i mean omg.
the 2hatch counter though im kindof ashamed, it ended before the big battle LOL^^
Feel free to ask question, im going to bed soon!
(omg i actually said roflstrat game mixorskillz in one sentance)
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