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[Q] TvT 1factory1starport

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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 31 2008 02:04 GMT
#1
As I begin to play on ICCUP, I have decided to generally use 1factcc or 1fact1port build in TvT. When i do go 1factport, should i go single wraith add tower and get cloak while pumping tanks? Ive seen several korean progamers use 1fact1port to great success and would like a general overview of how to play it out.

one great example of 1factport

http://www.gomtv.net/videos/207
Forever Young
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
October 31 2008 03:17 GMT
#2
hmm, TvT is always somewhat rock paper scissors in early game, so 1fact1port would do well in some games while other times it wont....
im interested in what others will say about this, for on iccup, the only way i can normally win against a decent T player, is by two port wraith.... But that's extremely fragile..
i should try the 1 port...
I feel like pwning noobs
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
October 31 2008 03:37 GMT
#3
I usually go either 14 CC or 1fact 1 port build in TvT. When I 1f1p I build 2 wraiths to harras 2 min lines and then add control tower for dropships after expo.
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 31 2008 19:13 GMT
#4
thanks both suggestions sound good
Forever Young
NergalSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Poland186 Posts
October 31 2008 21:05 GMT
#5
Nice thing is that you can do your gas at 10 and barracks at 13. Then you have enough gas to do tank, siege and starport with wraith and cloack asap. You maybe have rax later but you get a lot of useful gas. Something like getting gas before pool in 2 hatch muta builds in ZvT.
APO PANTOZ KAKODAIMONOZ
ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
November 01 2008 18:14 GMT
#6
it takes alot of micro, especially if they go 1fact port as well and it becomes an air micro wars
then cloaking and such introduce an element of luck into the game at the pro level.

2port fact is not a bad bo either if you can catch your opponent by surprise and take out enough scvs before turrets or goliaths appear, gaining the economic advantage
ish0wstopper effect
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
November 01 2008 18:49 GMT
#7
On November 01 2008 06:05 NergalSC wrote:
Nice thing is that you can do your gas at 10 and barracks at 13. Then you have enough gas to do tank, siege and starport with wraith and cloack asap. You maybe have rax later but you get a lot of useful gas. Something like getting gas before pool in 2 hatch muta builds in ZvT.


I don't seem to get good results with that build, as 8 rax or even a later rax in the middle can be very annoying.
aka DTF-ZeRo
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
November 01 2008 21:45 GMT
#8
another question that kind of applies to most TvT builds is do u guys often forward rax or place your rax very far from your main? i was on iccup and a player suggested i tried it... just seemed a lil risky and annoying if a scouting scv comes by and disrupts your rax timing
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
November 02 2008 00:42 GMT
#9
rax away b/c u are gonna lift it off anyways and it'll reach his base faster
if scv tries to disrupt it, u just send another scv to attack it. If this happens, its usually because he sent scv at like 12 or something and reached u when ur at like 14 pop or something like that. If u do 12r/12g, then ur eco boost will just be negated when u send another scv to atk it
im deaf
NergalSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Poland186 Posts
November 03 2008 16:03 GMT
#10
On November 02 2008 03:49 DTF-ZeRo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2008 06:05 NergalSC wrote:
Nice thing is that you can do your gas at 10 and barracks at 13. Then you have enough gas to do tank, siege and starport with wraith and cloack asap. You maybe have rax later but you get a lot of useful gas. Something like getting gas before pool in 2 hatch muta builds in ZvT.


I don't seem to get good results with that build, as 8 rax or even a later rax in the middle can be very annoying.

You should do this when you can predict your opponent - when you are pretty sure he will play standard.
APO PANTOZ KAKODAIMONOZ
Stimpacked
Profile Joined June 2008
Philippines368 Posts
November 03 2008 17:26 GMT
#11
i think its a safe build, your gonna force you opponent to get gols or acad/ebay if you have cloack it also gives you additional scouting. just be careful against 2fac builds it can deny you or delay you from expanding.
live and let live...
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 03 2008 17:32 GMT
#12
addon before wraith and always get cloak unless you're 100% sure hes going fe

if you go wraith without cloak and he goes wraith with cloak its basically free loss. cloak also makes the wraith harass a billion times more effective, everyone gets an armory pretty quick with fe. they wont have the acad in time unless they know you're going wraith.
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Stimpacked
Profile Joined June 2008
Philippines368 Posts
November 03 2008 18:35 GMT
#13
yes idra is right, wraith only is useless your initial marines can hold it for sometime while getting gols and when you get cloak their acad is already up. it also keeps your opponent in their base for sometime allowing you to get your siege up.
live and let live...
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
November 03 2008 20:07 GMT
#14
even more good tips.... i usually got wraith b4 addon
Forever Young
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
November 03 2008 22:08 GMT
#15
On November 04 2008 05:07 sung_moon wrote:
even more good tips.... i usually got wraith b4 addon

lol, same.. ill try this out
I feel like pwning noobs
ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
November 05 2008 16:02 GMT
#16
addon doesnt take that long to build
and the extra time wont do that much for you if you get addon after
ish0wstopper effect
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