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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 22:45:29
October 15 2008 22:43 GMT
#1
Google'd TL.net, nothing came up, so decided to post here, because it came to my attention that some people felt that getting used to playing in a faster speed could help with improvement on the game. (Feel free to move if this isn't the right section)



Step 1. Download Cheat Engine
+ Show Spoiler +
WILL NOT WORK ON BATTLE.NET UNLESS YOUR OPPONENT USES THE SAME xSPEED AS YOU.



Step 2.start starcraft

Step 3.attach the engine to starcraft.exe
on the cheatengine, tick "Enable Speedhack" and then put in whatever speed you want and then click "Set speed" (ignore the sleeptime)

Refer to pics for more help.

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I have tried this method on LAN and Battle.net, but only tested this with my brother.
We both used the method mentioned above, and both used the same speed. *Worked*


"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 15 2008 22:50 GMT
#2
:O HGmmm, perhaps it could work to get reaction times working better for you? ;P Thx for the link dood ^^
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 15 2008 22:53 GMT
#3
This looks really cool! Does anybody have any stories about if t really helps mechanics, multitasking, and stuff like that?
Force staff is the best item in the game.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 15 2008 22:55 GMT
#4
lol gogogo play at absolute max . This should be FUN!

OMG I CALL TL CATS AND MICE AT MAX SPEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
October 15 2008 22:56 GMT
#5
... There's more much reliable and more trustful sources and it's just an .scx file, not some program. -_-
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 22:57:23
October 15 2008 22:57 GMT
#6
On October 16 2008 07:56 Superiorwolf wrote:
... There's more much reliable and more trustful sources and it's just an .scx file, not some program. -_-



Maps can't change the spawn rate of larvaes. -_-
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 15 2008 23:02 GMT
#7
Interesting but.. does this really enhance ur reaction time?
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
October 15 2008 23:02 GMT
#8
On October 16 2008 07:57 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2008 07:56 Superiorwolf wrote:
... There's more much reliable and more trustful sources and it's just an .scx file, not some program. -_-



Maps can't change the spawn rate of larvaes. -_-

This is true.
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 15 2008 23:06 GMT
#9
On October 16 2008 08:02 never_toss wrote:
Interesting but.. does this really enhance ur reaction time?


Everyone probably has a different preference of how they practice, I am just providing another method of practice.
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
October 15 2008 23:11 GMT
#10
wow really cool

I played a computer 2x and its quite fun, you have to be soo fast

would probably make good "resistance-training" too
Enter a Uh
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 15 2008 23:26 GMT
#11
On October 16 2008 08:06 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2008 08:02 never_toss wrote:
Interesting but.. does this really enhance ur reaction time?


Everyone probably has a different preference of how they practice, I am just providing another method of practice.

Definitely gonna try it out though . What i meant was, did this help you?
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 23:30:58
October 15 2008 23:30 GMT
#12
hmm I tried playing at 4x speed, but after a while it slowed down to ~~normal speed again, don't know why
Enter a Uh
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 15 2008 23:37 GMT
#13
On October 16 2008 08:30 jtan wrote:
hmm I tried playing at 4x speed, but after a while it slowed down to ~~normal speed again, don't know why


Hmm...
I play mostly on 3x it might be because of how long you've been playing.

Just reset the speed to 1.0 on cheatengine, set speed, and then set a faster speed again.

"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
October 15 2008 23:42 GMT
#14
lol that was so awesome. Occasionally I felt like it would recognize a hot key... but maybe that was just me. And try microing against a 4 pool Zerg comp rush guys... lol. I was on 4X speed
eth0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada208 Posts
October 15 2008 23:44 GMT
#15
On October 16 2008 07:56 Superiorwolf wrote:
... There's more much reliable and more trustful sources and it's just an .scx file, not some program. -_-


Cheat Engine is completely legit, though it depends on where you download it. If you aren't sure, upload it to virustotal.com
Because he is Mantoss, the incarnation of masculinity and awesomeness.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 15 2008 23:46 GMT
#16
Could the "turning off" have anything to do with "sleeptime"? You said to ignore it but maybe this is relevant.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 16 2008 00:09 GMT
#17
holy fuck this is wicked, i am going to be practicing like this for a while, thanks alot ^.^
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 16 2008 00:10 GMT
#18
On October 16 2008 08:26 never_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2008 08:06 OmgIRok wrote:
On October 16 2008 08:02 never_toss wrote:
Interesting but.. does this really enhance ur reaction time?


Everyone probably has a different preference of how they practice, I am just providing another method of practice.

Definitely gonna try it out though . What i meant was, did this help you?




There are noticeable improvements(for me) I can say that.
I'm hesitant to say this, because i haven't played using this method a lot (barely have time for SC anymore), but it has helped me improve my APM, micro, multitasking in general.
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
October 16 2008 00:24 GMT
#19
That program has side effects Iput it 3 times faster and now my entire thought process is 3 times faster... I'm doing everything faster and alot more clicky than normal xD
Antifate
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-16 00:40:20
October 16 2008 00:35 GMT
#20
I scroll so freaking far now. It's so hard to tell your SCV, "Build Depot here, go back to mine here."

By the way, does it have to increase by whole number increments?

I tried 1.5, and didn't really get anything.
No one is taller than the last man standing.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
October 16 2008 01:09 GMT
#21
+ Show Spoiler +
This program is freeware, you can copy it as much as you like.

If this program accidentaly screws up and destroys data on your PC, electrocutes you,makes your monitor explode in your face, set's your house on fire, kills you, causes everyone on the planet(and beyond) to try to kill you, hacks into a nearby nuclear misile and targets your house, changes your bank balance to $0, gets you banned from online games, adds your name to a hitman's list, sucks you into the computer and plays pong with you(with you as ball), causes secret agencies to come after you, makes you believe you got maggots crawling under your skin, turns your room into a gate to hell, becomes sentient and starts killing everyone on this planet, gets you sent to jail with a guy named big bubba or does anything else you don't want it to do, don't blame the author of this program!!


I lolled haha
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 16 2008 01:18 GMT
#22
Way cool, although it makes controlling your units really hard. Thanks for posting.
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Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
October 16 2008 01:30 GMT
#23
i'm using win2000 server and it seems to crush my sc the moment i click on enable speed hack, any other win2000 user experiencing same problem?
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 16 2008 01:34 GMT
#24
Interesting.
Brood War loyalist
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 16 2008 02:55 GMT
#25
On October 16 2008 09:35 Antifate wrote:
I scroll so freaking far now. It's so hard to tell your SCV, "Build Depot here, go back to mine here."

By the way, does it have to increase by whole number increments?

I tried 1.5, and didn't really get anything.


I doesn't have to increase by whole numbers.

The reason 1.5 doesn't really give anything is cause its 1.5.
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 16 2008 02:57 GMT
#26
On October 16 2008 10:30 Glider wrote:
i'm using win2000 server and it seems to crush my sc the moment i click on enable speed hack, any other win2000 user experiencing same problem?


are you running win 2000 OS or private server?
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 16 2008 03:09 GMT
#27
nice thread and program

I might try it out later
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
October 16 2008 03:12 GMT
#28
Oh I think I'll try that. As my APM/multitasking generally sucks, I think I could be able to improve it with this
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
October 16 2008 03:14 GMT
#29
On October 16 2008 11:57 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2008 10:30 Glider wrote:
i'm using win2000 server and it seems to crush my sc the moment i click on enable speed hack, any other win2000 user experiencing same problem?


are you running win 2000 OS or private server?


i fixed it by using cheat engine 5.3 instead of 5.4...so those of you using win2000 make sure u use 5.3.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 16 2008 03:17 GMT
#30
On October 16 2008 12:14 Glider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2008 11:57 OmgIRok wrote:
On October 16 2008 10:30 Glider wrote:
i'm using win2000 server and it seems to crush my sc the moment i click on enable speed hack, any other win2000 user experiencing same problem?


are you running win 2000 OS or private server?


i fixed it by using cheat engine 5.3 instead of 5.4...so those of you using win2000 make sure u use 5.3.


Lol I knew it was a compatibility issue.
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 16 2008 03:23 GMT
#31
Nice find.

Of course, if you play online with even a little bit of latency, I bet life sucks.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
October 16 2008 03:29 GMT
#32
If I have 110 APM using this program then that means it's 220 regular APM?
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 16 2008 03:39 GMT
#33
On October 16 2008 12:29 BlackStar wrote:
If I have 110 APM using this program then that means it's 220 regular APM?


That would be true, if you were playing at 2x speed.
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 16 2008 03:39 GMT
#34
On October 16 2008 12:23 thunk wrote:
Nice find.

Of course, if you play online with even a little bit of latency, I bet life sucks.


Actually not that bad when both players are using this method and using the same x speed.
Latency is in a way sped up
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-16 03:41:29
October 16 2008 03:40 GMT
#35
On October 16 2008 09:35 Antifate wrote:
I scroll so freaking far now. It's so hard to tell your SCV, "Build Depot here, go back to mine here."

By the way, does it have to increase by whole number increments?

I tried 1.5, and didn't really get anything.


Use korean way, arrow keys.

EDIT: Triple post, sorry.

My next post will be tomorrow. I PROMISE. NO MORE CHAIN POSTING FOR ME IN THIS THREAD
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
October 16 2008 06:11 GMT
#36
Quick first person to host a replay + screen shot of winning 4xspeed 1v3 comps is the thread gosu.

I tried 4 times with all races and never made it past the hydra/ling-zealot/marine attack from all threw. Well zerg I got mutas but hold position is hard at 4x.


Can any of you do it.

OMGLROK , you rock dude, I don't think anything higher then 2x is even close to good training but this is definately fun. Thanks!
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 16 2008 06:29 GMT
#37
On October 16 2008 15:11 AttackZerg wrote:
Quick first person to host a replay + screen shot of winning 4xspeed 1v3 comps is the thread gosu.

I tried 4 times with all races and never made it past the hydra/ling-zealot/marine attack from all threw. Well zerg I got mutas but hold position is hard at 4x.


Can any of you do it.

OMGLROK , you rock dude, I don't think anything higher then 2x is even close to good training but this is definately fun. Thanks!


It's OmgiRok.

No L
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
October 16 2008 06:40 GMT
#38
Oh sorry Onn9ir0k
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-16 06:49:05
October 16 2008 06:48 GMT
#39
Lol, awesome.

Installing now.
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
October 16 2008 08:15 GMT
#40
Use SpeedGear, does the same, much easier to use.
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404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
October 16 2008 09:19 GMT
#41
This is wild.
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
milly9
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada325 Posts
October 16 2008 09:22 GMT
#42
I think it can only speed up based on how fast your computer is, so when the games are longer it goes slower because your computer can't handle it. Cuz I don't see any difference between 40 and 400 etc.

I tried against computers and made it until they made a single siege tank and leveled 100 cannons in 14 seconds while I tried to tell my probes to mine minerals
then i stick my treasures in a treehole
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
October 16 2008 12:57 GMT
#43
Practicing on this for a couple of weeks against decent opponents would probably give a huge boost in multitasking :p
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
October 16 2008 14:13 GMT
#44
Lool, does this really work?! I will try it out, but won't u get banned for using this?
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
October 16 2008 14:30 GMT
#45
team melee with this would be just pure awesomeness, im probably gonna try it out with a friend and see how that goes
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
October 16 2008 17:24 GMT
#46
This is evil you can sign onto iccup play a game for 5 mins then turn on the speed hack onto 0.1 speed which is like nothing and wait for the guy to leave for you to win.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
October 16 2008 17:33 GMT
#47
You will desync if you do that.
I'll call Nada.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
October 16 2008 22:32 GMT
#48
hmm is there something like this that speeds up your mouse?
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
October 16 2008 23:25 GMT
#49
A faster mouse also changing the sensitivity witch something chaoslaucher does
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
October 16 2008 23:38 GMT
#50
LOL This should be hilarious in hamachi, UBER MICRO
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 17 2008 00:50 GMT
#51
On October 17 2008 02:24 IzzyCraft wrote:
This is evil you can sign onto iccup play a game for 5 mins then turn on the speed hack onto 0.1 speed which is like nothing and wait for the guy to leave for you to win.


You'll just frameskip like Jaedong's 450APM arms on that Lecaf camera. ^^
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
October 17 2008 01:26 GMT
#52
On October 17 2008 07:32 Racenilatr wrote:
hmm is there something like this that speeds up your mouse?


Uhh, a better mouse??
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
October 17 2008 03:50 GMT
#53
Nice ICC abuse ftw

Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 04:00:16
October 17 2008 03:59 GMT
#54
On October 17 2008 02:24 IzzyCraft wrote:
This is evil you can sign onto iccup play a game for 5 mins then turn on the speed hack onto 0.1 speed which is like nothing and wait for the guy to leave for you to win.


You don't even think before you post

Even practicing at 1.5 speed, even 1.2 speed, would result in sped up reactions for sure.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
marekhappy
Profile Joined March 2017
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-07 16:27:41
October 07 2019 16:27 GMT
#55
Hello all, is this faster then faster cheat still runable on remastered?

Would love to test.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26005 Posts
October 07 2019 16:44 GMT
#56
Holy fucking 11 year bump Batman

I mean also I’m sure it’s fun as a novelty, absolutely terrible to actually practice this way. Lots of micro is rhythmic and tied to animations, practicing them outside the default game speed seems counter-productive.

If anyone wants to play in slower speeds to test this in the reverse go ahead, even though it’s slower and you should be able to do more, that’s offset by the weirdness of everything working on a timing you’re not accustomed to.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
marekhappy
Profile Joined March 2017
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-07 16:57:41
October 07 2019 16:57 GMT
#57
Thanks for your opinion... seems like you are theoretical beast.

Sadly seems, the way how find trough experience is gone. If anyone find the way, PM me, thanks.



WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26005 Posts
October 07 2019 17:56 GMT
#58
I didn’t mean to come across as dismissive. Like I said it would be fun for the novelty if nothing else.

Come to think of it it probably would be beneficial perhaps for things that you want to do absolutely as fast as possible, doing a macro cycle or whatever and keeping on top of that.

Would also probably be of some benefit for moving big groups of units if you could manage that at an even faster game speed.

Anything micro wise though my earlier opinion stands because it’s locked in with animation cycles and those specific rhythms.

Hope someone can help you out
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
October 07 2019 20:27 GMT
#59
Is this just playing the game at gamename#x2?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
i_hate_lurkers
Profile Joined October 2019
4 Posts
October 10 2019 07:04 GMT
#60
On October 16 2008 09:35 Antifate wrote:
I scroll so freaking far now. It's so hard to tell your SCV, "Build Depot here, go back to mine here."

By the way, does it have to increase by whole number increments?

I tried 1.5, and didn't really get anything.

this might be a good thing, now you can learn to play with faster sensitivity

I heard some meme by Artosis that Flash once said his #1 practice partner was the computer. He'd just practice his build against it over and over until it was perfect. Same concept here, except well, faster.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
October 13 2019 03:12 GMT
#61
I really cant stand the whole #x2 speeds that people play sometime on fastest, to me it is just absolutely ridiculous lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
October 13 2019 04:52 GMT
#62
There's a reason people in rhythm games don't practice x1.5 or x2 speed before they've mastered the original speed.

There's value in practicing simple things at higher speeds, but practicing complex things seems a recipe for sloppy play.
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