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[G] PvZ: The Way of the Cannon - Page 2

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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
May 31 2008 10:09 GMT
#21
Haha. That's pretty funny Eri. =p
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
May 31 2008 10:56 GMT
#22
I bet you'll see the rate of cannon rushing in PvZ go up in the weeks to come thanks to this guide.
Super serious.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12801 Posts
May 31 2008 11:01 GMT
#23
On May 31 2008 17:11 Liquid`Drone wrote:
hehe i used to do this kinda cute thing on tau cross
like I would build the pylon that normally blocks the entrance next to their exp instead, if it was in view of an overlord or something
then they had the predictable response of sending a bunch of drones to get the pylon
then when drones were out of the base, I'd THEN build a pylon in the block
cuz then the drones were stopped from mining for a good while hoo ha

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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
May 31 2008 13:17 GMT
#24
On May 31 2008 17:11 Liquid`Drone wrote:
hehe i used to do this kinda cute thing on tau cross
like I would build the pylon that normally blocks the entrance next to their exp instead, if it was in view of an overlord or something
then they had the predictable response of sending a bunch of drones to get the pylon
then when drones were out of the base, I'd THEN build a pylon in the block
cuz then the drones were stopped from mining for a good while hoo ha

looool
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MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
May 31 2008 13:47 GMT
#25
My teammate Hyuga offensive cannons all the time lol.
Nak Allstar.
flag
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States228 Posts
May 31 2008 15:17 GMT
#26
Good stuff

On May 31 2008 15:20 aokces wrote:
About the zerg spotting a delayed nexus:

How convincing would it be to warp in a pylon where the nexus would be at your expo?

I think since the nexus is 4x3 and a pylon 2x2, you cant put it so its center would be correct so even without clicking they might notice it is odd and then click it.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
May 31 2008 16:01 GMT
#27
Don't do this on C+ or higher.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 31 2008 16:50 GMT
#28
it's not like it doesn't work on C+ or higher, but you will need to have really good micro/well practised placement and a backup plan. You need to presume that the zerg scouts it, so either try to pick off some drones if you go 1gate forge at exp and he goes 12hatch, or just try prevent him from mining while you put your exp up and casually cancel the cannons. It puts you slightly behind though, so I don't do it much anymore. I liked to do this on Blue Storm behind the minerals, it did work against some good zergs, but then everyone started going 9pool speedlings and you really have to play a lot better than your opponent to climb back into the game after a cannon rush vs 9pool.
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Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
May 31 2008 16:53 GMT
#29
On May 31 2008 11:45 w3jjjj wrote:
return of the cannons lol....

more experienced zergs have better anti-cheese senses, 1. ur nexus is later than he expects (trust me good zergs know exactly when a nexus is supposed to start), 2. ur scouting probe leaves zerg main and goes to his natural for no good reason, 3. overlord spotting a second probe coming, 4. zerg gets paranoid for no reason, all these will cause the zerg to send a drone to his natural to check, and if morphing pylons are spotted he'll immediately bring more drones to defend. but then again, u are talking about c-, it's worth a try i guess.


1. is the best no#1 reason why it shouldn't work. when i see the nexus is not going up when it should be I send 3 drones to check my nat (if I've sent my overlord off to scout & it doesn't have vis).
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
May 31 2008 16:53 GMT
#30
I hate you bugzitooni :O

destroying fun macro oreintated starcraft with gay fag cheese 1 game at a time

looks like i'm never going to not overpool on iccup ever again now.
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
May 31 2008 16:54 GMT
#31
also eri you are the devil.
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Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
May 31 2008 16:55 GMT
#32
eri that is one sick idea lol. I would just leave the game in utter humiliation
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
May 31 2008 16:56 GMT
#33
WHERES REBELHEART, WE WILL GET HIM TO EXERCISE YOU.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 31 2008 17:29 GMT
#34
I remember this, i played god awful this game, didnt play for the rest of the day heh.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-31 17:43:20
May 31 2008 17:42 GMT
#35
If you send your second overlord to your nat, you should always be able to stop it.

If you scout well with a drone and dont assume that protoss can only place cannons behind your mineral only(like me lol), you shoud be able to stop it.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
May 31 2008 17:57 GMT
#36
Didnt Rondo like cannon rush a shiton in his pvzs?
:D
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
May 31 2008 18:01 GMT
#37
On June 01 2008 02:57 ._. wrote:
Didnt Rondo like cannon rush a shiton in his pvzs?


He did. I've also seen Nal_ra and Reach do it. So it's viable on every skill lvl depending mostly on maps, I guess.
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 31 2008 18:11 GMT
#38
nalra anyone?
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
May 31 2008 23:05 GMT
#39
On May 31 2008 14:38 Liquid`Drone wrote:
ya on a high level theres mostly no point in bothering with cannon rush unless he slips up and lets you build blocked in behind his minerals

on a low level its very good for sure

What do you mean with slip up? Like, how do you prevent him when he can block him self in with one pylon? (Luna 2 and 7 a clock comes to mind but it has happened to me on other maps too) I'll usually notice that something is wrong and send a drone to check for rushes due to the probe being gone for a while/late nexus. Problem is that when i do he already has his probe locked in behind a pylon and before i can get a drone jumped over he usually warps in his cannon, sometimes they even manage to jump the probe back over the minerals again in the process and keep on making cannons/sends another probe over to do that. Should i always scout with two drones when i get paranoid so i can jump them over right away or is there some other trick to deal with this?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 01 2008 00:40 GMT
#40
I like doing sexy cannon rushes with the pylon on the other side of a wall/cliff, or the cannon hidden behind a wall until it finishes.

Once on Arcadia I built the pylon behind one of the thin walls, cannoned there, and then built another cannon on the other side of the wall. When he pulled drones the first cannon melted them. It was the sexiest thing I've ever done :p
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