On November 06 2007 05:10 YinYang69 wrote:
Progamers memorize builds up to 100? I find that hard to believe with all the variables that can pop up in a game.

these are guys that can play the game at 400 or even 500 APM, show that to any regular person and theyd say its hard to believe too and argue that the thing is sped up or that the game is all about spam clicking.

Pressure

7326 Posts

November 05 2007 22:16 GMT

#22

thanks for the build order!
pretty precise, but maybe the timing or where he positioned some of his pylons depends on the game that savior was playign against him? if you can find another rep + maybe some SS i will love you
<3
:D

edit : can you give a link to the rep?

Jolle

Norway185 Posts

November 06 2007 01:05 GMT

#23

the "problem" with the Bisu build is that Bisu adapts it so well considering circumstanses. Don't know if you're going to be more successfull if you follow the build as it stands here rather than going more conservative FE build...

rushz0rz

Canada5300 Posts

November 06 2007 01:33 GMT

#24

On November 06 2007 05:10 YinYang69 wrote:
Progamers memorize builds up to 100? I find that hard to believe with all the variables that can pop up in a game.

Well, if you do it enough you start memorizing when your stargate is up, when you get your third zealot, etc. Imagine doing the same build over and over on the same map, you'd memorize a lot of things.

MiniRoman

Canada3953 Posts

November 06 2007 03:27 GMT

#25

I don't look at my supply enough to memorize it them. Also it changes so fast that means you are just reguritating something for every second -_-. Playing in a rhytm is much better.

LuDwig-

Italy1143 Posts

November 06 2007 05:40 GMT

#26

i really don't understand.. if i make corsair and dt the z goes idra and simply kick my ass...he put 1 spore on natural and keep all the ovie there.. what is the point of going mass cors and dt at fast game?

goldenkrnboi

United States3104 Posts

November 06 2007 06:19 GMT

#27

On November 06 2007 14:40 LuDwig- wrote:
i really don't understand.. if i make corsair and dt the z goes idra and simply kick my ass...he put 1 spore on natural and keep all the ovie there.. what is the point of going mass cors and dt at fast game?

dude. if he keeps all of his ovies at his natural, just sneak drop a couple of dts in his main and start raping. if he tries to bring his ovies to his main, just massacre them with your sairs.

also, if he only has 1 spore, then at least like 6 corsairs should be able to kill most of the ovies before you lose like 3 corsairs.

LoveandPeace

United States99 Posts

November 06 2007 06:31 GMT

#28

Thanks for the build order. I've added it to the execution notes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=62009

under Zerg 3 pool, toss FE.

LoveandPeace

United States99 Posts

November 06 2007 06:31 GMT

#29

Thanks for the build order. I've added it to the execution notes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=62009

under Zerg 3 hatch, toss FE.

LoveandPeace

United States99 Posts

November 06 2007 06:44 GMT

#30

strange, it double posted. i don't know why it did that...

Drowsy

United States4876 Posts

November 06 2007 07:13 GMT

#31

eh... where's the replay you speak of :D Or is it a vod? Also, if you 12 nexus instead of 14, which means you do have to cut probes a bit, you don't need a second pylon before it finishes, slightly more efficient.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

November 06 2007 07:46 GMT

#32

Info:

1: Yes, it may be too specific.

I just wanted to provide people with one of the Bisu Builds that he does that's so famous since people seem to be looking for these.

2: It's not a FPVOD, it's a replay, that's how I got the numbers.

3: For those of you looking for the specific replay, I've edited my post so the link to it is now included.

4: Taking Screenshots now for the win

FieryBalrog

United States1381 Posts

November 06 2007 07:54 GMT

#33

one thing i don't get- why dont zerg players start blocking their ramp with 2 drone until ling if the scouting probe is so important? Wouldn't that make things much harder for bisu to read before his sair pops out? Could pave the way for a surprise all-in build, or a fake all-in build, or a number of things... It seems like fast expanding into triple tech is extremely reliant on information, theres no other way it would be viable, right?

On November 06 2007 15:19 goldenkrnboi wrote:

Show nested quote +

One spore in main and nat, put 3-4 hydras with the ovies at nat, and spread them- it'll take more than 6 to take them down without severe losses.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

November 06 2007 08:50 GMT

#34

Screenshots up for great justice

goldenkrnboi

United States3104 Posts

November 13 2007 01:47 GMT

#35

Show nested quote +

One spore in main and nat, put 3-4 hydras with the ovies at nat, and spread them- it'll take more than 6 to take them down without severe losses.

i was saying that assuming that you wouldn't be stupid to not be constantly moving your sairs.

Equinox_kr

United States7395 Posts

November 13 2007 04:46 GMT

#36

Although quite specific, I like it

I still like my weirdo FE + DT drop PvZ BO better haha

Equinox_kr

United States7395 Posts

November 13 2007 04:47 GMT

#37

On November 06 2007 17:50 -orb- wrote:
Screenshots up for great justice

Very justice-tastic! I like them

strongwind

United States862 Posts

November 13 2007 04:51 GMT

#38

I love your comments at the end. If this build makes Savior leave the game I will use it religiously ^^

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

November 13 2007 13:11 GMT

#39

On November 13 2007 13:51 strongwind wrote:
I love your comments at the end. If this build makes Savior leave the game I will use it religiously ^^

Don't be too religious, remember you always have to craft your build in response to what your enemy is doing.

GL ask for a match vs sAviOr, you're totally ready :D