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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 05 2007 20:16 GMT
#21
On November 06 2007 05:10 YinYang69 wrote:
Progamers memorize builds up to 100? I find that hard to believe with all the variables that can pop up in a game.


these are guys that can play the game at 400 or even 500 APM, show that to any regular person and theyd say its hard to believe too and argue that the thing is sped up or that the game is all about spam clicking.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-05 22:17:37
November 05 2007 22:16 GMT
#22
thanks for the build order!
pretty precise, but maybe the timing or where he positioned some of his pylons depends on the game that savior was playign against him? if you can find another rep + maybe some SS i will love you
<3
:D

edit : can you give a link to the rep?
Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
November 06 2007 01:05 GMT
#23
the "problem" with the Bisu build is that Bisu adapts it so well considering circumstanses. Don't know if you're going to be more successfull if you follow the build as it stands here rather than going more conservative FE build...
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-06 01:37:26
November 06 2007 01:33 GMT
#24
On November 06 2007 05:10 YinYang69 wrote:
Progamers memorize builds up to 100? I find that hard to believe with all the variables that can pop up in a game.


Well, if you do it enough you start memorizing when your stargate is up, when you get your third zealot, etc. Imagine doing the same build over and over on the same map, you'd memorize a lot of things.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
November 06 2007 03:27 GMT
#25
I don't look at my supply enough to memorize it them. Also it changes so fast that means you are just reguritating something for every second -_-. Playing in a rhytm is much better.
Nak Allstar.
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
November 06 2007 05:40 GMT
#26
i really don't understand.. if i make corsair and dt the z goes idra and simply kick my ass...he put 1 spore on natural and keep all the ovie there.. what is the point of going mass cors and dt at fast game?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-06 06:21:54
November 06 2007 06:19 GMT
#27
On November 06 2007 14:40 LuDwig- wrote:
i really don't understand.. if i make corsair and dt the z goes idra and simply kick my ass...he put 1 spore on natural and keep all the ovie there.. what is the point of going mass cors and dt at fast game?


dude. if he keeps all of his ovies at his natural, just sneak drop a couple of dts in his main and start raping. if he tries to bring his ovies to his main, just massacre them with your sairs.


also, if he only has 1 spore, then at least like 6 corsairs should be able to kill most of the ovies before you lose like 3 corsairs.
LoveandPeace
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States99 Posts
November 06 2007 06:31 GMT
#28
Thanks for the build order. I've added it to the execution notes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=62009

under Zerg 3 pool, toss FE.
LoveandPeace
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States99 Posts
November 06 2007 06:31 GMT
#29
Thanks for the build order. I've added it to the execution notes here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=62009

under Zerg 3 hatch, toss FE.
LoveandPeace
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States99 Posts
November 06 2007 06:44 GMT
#30
strange, it double posted. i don't know why it did that...
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-06 07:15:16
November 06 2007 07:13 GMT
#31
eh... where's the replay you speak of :D Or is it a vod? Also, if you 12 nexus instead of 14, which means you do have to cut probes a bit, you don't need a second pylon before it finishes, slightly more efficient.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-06 07:49:13
November 06 2007 07:46 GMT
#32
Info:

1: Yes, it may be too specific.

I just wanted to provide people with one of the Bisu Builds that he does that's so famous since people seem to be looking for these.

2: It's not a FPVOD, it's a replay, that's how I got the numbers.

3: For those of you looking for the specific replay, I've edited my post so the link to it is now included.

4: Taking Screenshots now for the win
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-06 08:02:26
November 06 2007 07:54 GMT
#33
one thing i don't get- why dont zerg players start blocking their ramp with 2 drone until ling if the scouting probe is so important? Wouldn't that make things much harder for bisu to read before his sair pops out? Could pave the way for a surprise all-in build, or a fake all-in build, or a number of things... It seems like fast expanding into triple tech is extremely reliant on information, theres no other way it would be viable, right?

On November 06 2007 15:19 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2007 14:40 LuDwig- wrote:
i really don't understand.. if i make corsair and dt the z goes idra and simply kick my ass...he put 1 spore on natural and keep all the ovie there.. what is the point of going mass cors and dt at fast game?


dude. if he keeps all of his ovies at his natural, just sneak drop a couple of dts in his main and start raping. if he tries to bring his ovies to his main, just massacre them with your sairs.


also, if he only has 1 spore, then at least like 6 corsairs should be able to kill most of the ovies before you lose like 3 corsairs.

One spore in main and nat, put 3-4 hydras with the ovies at nat, and spread them- it'll take more than 6 to take them down without severe losses.
I will eat you alive
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 06 2007 08:50 GMT
#34
Screenshots up for great justice
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-13 01:47:51
November 13 2007 01:47 GMT
#35
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2007 15:19 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On November 06 2007 14:40 LuDwig- wrote:
i really don't understand.. if i make corsair and dt the z goes idra and simply kick my ass...he put 1 spore on natural and keep all the ovie there.. what is the point of going mass cors and dt at fast game?


dude. if he keeps all of his ovies at his natural, just sneak drop a couple of dts in his main and start raping. if he tries to bring his ovies to his main, just massacre them with your sairs.


also, if he only has 1 spore, then at least like 6 corsairs should be able to kill most of the ovies before you lose like 3 corsairs.

One spore in main and nat, put 3-4 hydras with the ovies at nat, and spread them- it'll take more than 6 to take them down without severe losses.


i was saying that assuming that you wouldn't be stupid to not be constantly moving your sairs.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
November 13 2007 04:46 GMT
#36
Although quite specific, I like it

I still like my weirdo FE + DT drop PvZ BO better haha
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
November 13 2007 04:47 GMT
#37
On November 06 2007 17:50 -orb- wrote:
Screenshots up for great justice


Very justice-tastic! I like them
^-^
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
November 13 2007 04:51 GMT
#38
I love your comments at the end. If this build makes Savior leave the game I will use it religiously ^^
Taek Bang Fighting!
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 13 2007 13:11 GMT
#39
On November 13 2007 13:51 strongwind wrote:
I love your comments at the end. If this build makes Savior leave the game I will use it religiously ^^




Don't be too religious, remember you always have to craft your build in response to what your enemy is doing.

GL ask for a match vs sAviOr, you're totally ready :D
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
November 13 2007 16:00 GMT
#40
Afaik, the genuine Bisu build involves probe cutting.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
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