EPT! [G] Small Guide on "my" MnM/Tank timing Rush - Page 2
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kawoq
Guatemala357 Posts
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near
United States281 Posts
 , good alternative to tornado terran that i usually find myself doing with tvp... hows it work with zerg for you, or would a straight up skterran work better? | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
 Although by luck it could work vs 2 hatch fast lurker...but still not recommended. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On July 27 2007 11:06 BluzMan wrote: Rines seem sloppy vs sieged tanks and more and more players open up with vults (this is almost mandatory on Geometry), so I don't really think it will have good TvT usage. But the TvP part is awesome. Much better than the "pressure" guide. Btw, thx on explaining the adaptation/timing stuff of this build. This shit has been incredibly hard to counter for me in the past, now I think I will understand the build/defend better. The only drawback I see is that if toss gets a reaver or DT opening with a faster nexus and defends successfully (don't see how he can beat this with pure goons into fast nexus), he gains the upper hand. But overall it is indeed very strong. Also, did you consider moving out earlier? You don't really need stim or siege when you're leaving your base (just don't be sloppy and bring an SCV a tank to repair if toss tries to slow the push, in case of medarine it's not a good idea unlike normal FD, so you will be ahead unless you screw micro), so it's ok if it finishes when you approach toss' base. Ya you can move out earlier if you see a weakness, like if they went nexus first or something. But normally if you moved out earlier it would mean you would have no stim or siege...which makes it a lot easier for the P to micro against your forces. Besides if you're not gonna wait for siege and stim theres more effecient options than this build Honestly it is not possible for protoss to tech and get a faster expansion than you(and keep the expansion alive that is). | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
On July 27 2007 10:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:And I did a test to see how many goons p could possibly have by 6:15, without sending a scouting probe at all, and with cutting the necessary probes to constantly be building goons from both gates when getting core at 14 and a second gate at 15 and its 11. This would obviously hold easily vs 11 marines 2 medics and 3 tanks with seige...but Ts expo will be much faster. And T can still get a good number of goon kills. This is true, but if you lose too much, the counter reaver drop (come on, with that many goons it has to come right?) is gonna hurttttttt. I am so gonna use this build a bunch now to cheese the crap outta protoss. I play SC to kill Protoss. That is my joy and love now. -_-; and I'm P user ~~ | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
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Aux1
United States780 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On July 27 2007 11:55 Aux1 wrote: dt drop owns this Seriously can I get a temp ban for this guy? How does dt drop own this? To me it seems dt drop would be THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSE. Are you fucking joking me? Not only would you not survive the initial push if T played agressively. But how do you propose to beat 12 marines 2 medics and 4 tanks with a shuttle full of dts when T has at least 3 scans/maybe 4? If T played defensively he would see the shuttle flying in, move marines over...stim run past shuttle a bit..target it..kill it. Scan, mop up dts. GG. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Reflex
Canada703 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On July 27 2007 12:03 fusionsdf wrote: noob question: Do we have to cut scvs at any time during this build? Just 1 for a faster fact timing while continuing to pump rines | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
Trust me guys dt is something I've tested extensively against. If you manage your scan energy properly youll do great vs dt. | ||
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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Aux1
United States780 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On July 27 2007 12:32 Metal[x] wrote: whoever said you will have 4 scans by the time your going up to his ramp/base, is utterly wrong... you will have 2 scans max if that, but the OP said that you would scan his base to see what hes going, so theres -1 scan. o_O No you don't scan his base until you are sure hes not going dt | ||
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Andaroo
Canada70 Posts
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