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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
November 02 2019 15:51 GMT
#1
Is there a collection of all tricks somewhere including how its done?

I know liquipedia has some but they are spread out.

If not i will try and make one.

By tricks i mean all technical tricks and bugs. Like muta micro and invisible zerg for example.
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
November 02 2019 16:23 GMT
#2
there are specific unit tricks but nothing that I know of in small guide. Most tricks are usually done abusing or breaking the Magic box.
Flash should fear Sacsri
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
November 03 2019 00:16 GMT
#3
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
November 03 2019 09:03 GMT
#4
On November 03 2019 09:16 MeSaber wrote:
https://youtu.be/cOp_cq7MhWI

How much does this boost gas income in the long run? I'm sure it should be a decent amount if you start this from the very beginning (although I'm not sure if it's very practical)
Mine gas, build tanks.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
November 03 2019 09:09 GMT
#5
Actually you cant gather gas any faster because of it, there is no way to reduce join-timer on gas. You cant lessen the drone count to 2 either. From my tests it has no use.

You can however get drones to pop 4 tiles away from the gas (put a pool left/right of gas, thats 3 tiles, it will pop on the 4th (left/right of pool))

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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-03 17:53:30
November 03 2019 11:42 GMT
#6
Trutacz has recently showed up a set up similar to Zero's (on stream) and it significantly boosts the gas income.

In the process of preparing it, however, you greatly reduce your rate of mining gas so it's hardly practical in regular 1v1 games.
here it is:
https://www.twitch.tv/trutaacz/clip/MoistSuavePelicanRedCoat?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-03 17:00:56
November 03 2019 16:41 GMT
#7
Can you please explain how it can boost something that has a timer. Each drone spends x amount of time in the gas. This cant be lowered.

I did test this where 1:20 m:s always gathered 400 gas no matter if trick or not.

If gas would be exactly beside hatch you would need 2 drones and it would gather gas at the same rate as 3 drone in normal range.

What you do "earn" from this is faster gathering as in terms of drone leaves gas and give it to hatch. I.E if you had gas over whole map (128x128) it would take quite the time until you get the gas, however you would gather gas at the exact same RATE as if gas was just beside hatch.

This delivery time reduction does not serve more gas but gives you the gas 1 second faster than regularly. It has no game impact whatsoever.

Edit: i watched the clip and he did no testing. For trutaacz id say try it and time it. Say 500 gas and see how long it takes with/without trick. Conclusion will be the same time, as drones arent leaving any faster inside gas.

He also added a 4th drone making it even worse than regular 3 drone less drones for minerals.

Edit2: if you need empirical evidence ill do it after work (in 4 hours).
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 03 2019 17:58 GMT
#8
I saw someone bring up the numbers in the FBW discord, but I can't find them at the moment. I did find people repeating TT's set up like you said you had done and they seemed to agree it does not actually improve mining at all, even gimps it.
In that case I have nothing to say, but confirm that for all purposes, this set up sucks
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-03 21:34:30
November 03 2019 20:56 GMT
#9
2 computers mining. For some reason drones bug out and stop after delivering when using this trick on computer, so i had to add more drones because of that.

Edit: Sec ill remake the test me as blue. Done.

Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=97074519949127172096

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Close position (3 vs 2 drones, as you can see its unreliable. Need 3 drones no matter what, unless u can cope with the small loss of gas (use 3rd drone for minerals)):

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iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
November 04 2019 21:02 GMT
#10
I've seen firebathero in a ladder game making mass archons using high templar allucinations and raping a zerg.
Very funny, but I wasn't able to copy the trick. Someone show and explain maybe?
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
SeaKing66
Profile Joined September 2018
41 Posts
November 05 2019 01:39 GMT
#11
You can find the explanation here (with FBH explaining how to do it):
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/543897-half-priced-archons-new-bug
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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-05 12:25:04
November 05 2019 10:40 GMT
#12
Invisible Zerg, Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=46287431211866264021

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Distance mining, Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=81882767192900519823

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Mass recall, Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=51851140969036165180

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Quick sorting, Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=59981953411969414533
(Explanation: A very useful trick. Choose the spell of your choice and use it with all spellcaster units on a distant enemy (or ally unit/self), the ones who got sufficient energy will move towards target. Re-select those and use for spellcasting)
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Larva moving, Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=07342836787038646049
(Explanation: Moving larvas to left side is done by using Stop command while using another unit grouped with larvas. This can be done by either the Overlord at beginning or Drones that pops out)
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Drone wall, Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=39826816692814756894
(Explanation: A very useful trick vs Protoss. Put a Drone on ramp. Put 2 Hydras behind, add Overlord ontop of Drone. Now "Move" Command on Overlord with Drone to make Drone stay put + dont attack enemy. Be sure Hydras arent too far away from Drone as that will make Protoss able to a-click ground to kill the Drone. Same with using 1 Hydra only. Between Hydra shots, a-click could kill the Drone. This wall is also doable with Terran using SCV and ebay/rax)
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Who says you need an expensive wall :D
(Explanation: The reason this works is because Drones are in "Move" state so they dont trigger to enemy units as hostile, if i would "Hold" em Drones would occasionally attack and then be hostile)
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
November 17 2019 11:11 GMT
#13
I use that drone wall trick in that lurker individual de map and win the fastest every time. By burrowing then unburrowing so it doesnt trigger the enemy seeing a wall and attacking everything.

I made a thread a long time ago with most of the tricks in the game. I know it was incomplete but it had a lot.
RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-18 14:47:17
November 18 2019 14:36 GMT
#14
Glad u asked... I dont have half priced archons as I only recently learned of em. But most of the rest is here:

SCR compatible

1.04 BW madness

Return Cargo Glitch

You can read how to perform them here:

https://kb.speeddemosarchive.com/StarCraft/Game_Mechanics_and_Glitches

(Wiki)Bugs

And spawning units up n down cliff edges:

https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/548773-cliff-jump-revisited-1-in-a-1000-strategy
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-20 10:42:19
November 20 2019 10:36 GMT
#15
I just remembered this one.. Its still doable in SCR.
Replay: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=60190883279322852461

HOW: The time from clicking Siege to the actual Siege animation starting (tank needs to turn around) is the time you have for the building to land. If siege animation starts before building lands, it explodes. Position tank so it takes the longest amount of time to start siege animation.. I.E facing top left. Then click very late just before building lands. If you do this in a regular game you better click late than early, as that wont explode it.

P.S I havent tested if there is a possibility to make it immune to melee units, say lings by sieging exactly center of a building.

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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 13:59:49
November 27 2019 13:58 GMT
#16
A trick I found out today that I hadn't realized before:

You can use alt-C to center your screen on your group of units even if one of them is far away (for example if you have mutas + overlord selected). Double tapping hotkey or pressing alt-1 doesn't work unless you have a lot of units, but alt-C does even with just 1 muta and 1 overlord. You select the hotkey (ie 1) and then alt-C. It's possible to micro 2 groups of mutas in different locations more or less easily with this method.
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1506 Posts
November 30 2019 11:15 GMT
#17
One can Spawn Broodling an Archon. You must use 2 Spawn Brood casts on 2 High Templars before they merge. In my example the first spell hits 1 of the already merged High Templars and does nothing (as its supposed to). When the second spell hits the other High Templar one set of broodlings spawn! Works on Dark Archons too.

ko-fi.com/luckynoob
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1506 Posts
November 30 2019 11:56 GMT
#18
Also Surrounded Drone Hop Bug still works... You surround a drone so it can barely move and order it build a hatchery nearby. It seems to work when on one side the drone is next to a ledge. Tested it works with all Zerg buildings except for extractor. Spamming on extractor just makes the drone float over and build it instead of teleporting.

ko-fi.com/luckynoob
shakigami
Profile Joined November 2013
220 Posts
December 02 2019 15:03 GMT
#19
On November 05 2019 19:40 MeSaber wrote:

Who says you need an expensive wall :D
(Explanation: The reason this works is because Drones are in "Move" state so they dont trigger to enemy units as hostile, if i would "Hold" em Drones would occasionally attack and then be hostile)
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hey, how to do this trick?
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
December 02 2019 23:03 GMT
#20
Take a worker and put in on "move" on another worker.
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shakigami
Profile Joined November 2013
220 Posts
December 04 2019 15:09 GMT
#21
On December 03 2019 08:03 MeSaber wrote:
Take a worker and put in on "move" on another worker.

nice, thank you
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-12-05 04:27:33
December 05 2019 04:23 GMT
#22
wrong thread
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Fleurpink
Profile Joined January 2020
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-08 19:55:58
January 03 2020 22:49 GMT
#23
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
February 04 2020 01:23 GMT
#24
The spider mine trick where you can lay multiple spider mines in one go:

If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1506 Posts
February 13 2020 09:12 GMT
#25
Here are some more:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2HvWmMaC6M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IdwLw_sq6E
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1601 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-13 11:28:51
February 13 2020 11:28 GMT
#26
The last one also works for SCV's. Never tried it for probes. Always wondered wether you can jump cliffs with it.
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1506 Posts
February 20 2020 14:37 GMT
#27
Yes. It works but with SCVs and Probes its not interesting. With drones it is cuz the drone disappears. I tried with cliffs doesnt seem to work currently.
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States623 Posts
February 23 2020 20:34 GMT
#28
On February 04 2020 10:23 LetaBot wrote:
The spider mine trick where you can lay multiple spider mines in one go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pr00bS-nRs



Asl9 round of 24 day 3 spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +
https://youtu.be/M6adNJKsmqQ

2:04:57 looks like FBH uses the spidermine trick. Makes sense since hes known to practice these sort of tricks often.

ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
February 24 2020 04:37 GMT
#29
I know majority of workers penetrating hold positioned ramp units tricks are illegal and bm af, what's the consensus on right clicking on enemy's natural resource?
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