It's normal to lose your first 50 (even 100) games on iCCup because of smurfs but don't give up. Every lose will give you strength. Play on maps like FS, CB or even LT. GLHF!

niteReloaded

Croatia5281 Posts

April 30 2017 19:26 GMT

#23

I agree with the advice in this thread that said:
- play the campaign, it will get BW to your blood in a healthy, non invasive way, and plant a seed of mystery

- remember to enjoy, and go wherever the fun takes you. Be it watching VODs, playing 3v3s, 2v2s, 1v1s or compstomping.
- there's no reason to force yourself to be good in 1v1, there's no intrinsic reward, other than your own passion.

But if you are a 'sicko' like intrigue said, then maybe you've just found the right game and 1v1s will rub you just the right way ! ;D
Whatever aspect of BW you realize makes you have fun, you're not alone.

Once you play thru the campaign and get to know the races thru your first ~50 games, I suggest occasionally exploring some famous matches from before. It will show you the magic each race can produce, and how passionate BW can be.

niteReloaded

Croatia5281 Posts

April 30 2017 19:32 GMT

#24

On April 29 2017 06:33 outscar wrote:
It's normal to lose your first 50 (even 100) games on iCCup because of smurfs but don't give up. Every lose will give you strength. Play on maps like FS, CB or even LT. GLHF!

I wouldn't advise him to play on iccup at this point at all.
He should start gently, get to know BW a bit, and have fun.
Then Remastered will come soon, with matchmaking system, and in my opinion that's the best way to start competing.

If he starts 'too seriously' he may get frustrated and give up on such a great game because he's been thrown into the fire too quickly.

thedeadhaji

39489 Posts

May 01 2017 21:26 GMT

#25

On April 26 2017 13:38 intrigue wrote:
i just started playing smash last year after being a bw vet since the beginning, so i feel the same way as you.

smash goes so deep and it's really daunting to get into. but i think it's important to just have fun with the game. you'll naturally get better if you ease into it slowly and enjoy the game, instead of trying to 'get ahead' right away. i stopped trying to catch up to my friends who have played for years and just try to enjoy the movement and tech, and catch games when i can.

i'd recommend playing team games/bgh or dicking around on UMS maps. those are always a blast

Yeah agreed with easing into it and having fun. Playing with friends or acquaintances on TL rather than randos on ladder is definitely better.

Seconding playing campaign as well. Many of us have an emotional bond with the race we play, and oftentimes it comes from our experience with the Campaign. The other influence tends to be progamers by whom we were inspired.

Watching pro replays together, micro arena while on discord while complaining "wtf this is impossible", 3v3 hunters crushing randos on bnet, stripping Jessica Alba, etc., all good fun that's good to splice in in between 1v1obs.

When I started playing the game in 2005, having a social group of a regular set of TL friends to hang out / play with was huge. My first 30 games were getting crushed by Intrigue on Lost Temple with every proxy imaginable, haha. I was so happy when I got my first win against him.

Broodwar4lyf

304 Posts

May 05 2017 00:25 GMT

#26

mining/spending efficiency, micromanagement and multitasking - if you have fast keyboard reflexes and you think fast, being good in those three will probably get you far into the top levels. i think creativity and brilliance just comes when you play 10000 games of drilling the same things over and over

Eridanus

United States75 Posts

May 05 2017 01:13 GMT

#27

You can either try to follow the perfect plan on how to become the best player possible the quickest, and deliberately practice and follow all best practices.

Or you can just play games and try to have fun.

It is easy to either say "Just go play 3vs3 hunters", or give a detailed game plan on how to as quickly as possible ingrain proper hotkey usage and multitasking, ingraining correct thought patterns.

In the end, you just try to find a balance that suits your needs.

If you are interested in 1vs1, there is no point playing the campaign. All it can do for you is help you memorize the tech tree and stuff like that.

Playing vs AI I also found to be iffy in the past, but currently there are some AI's that actually micro and play well. But, their nature is very different from that of real players. A game feels completely different when you play vs a human, and you can feel their intentions and thoughts.

It can be quite hard to find someone near your level. Getting beaten by people building mass scouts because they are just so far ahead of you can seem quite pointless.

In the same way, if you take two players from back in 1999, and you let them play a 1000 games against each other, they might not really improve because they 'see' no real need to. So playing vs an equal inside your own save bubble is also not the right way to practice properly.

ninazerg

United States7291 Posts

May 05 2017 05:10 GMT

#28

I made a thread for you: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/521980-how-to-get-into-bw-for-sc2-peoples

LUCKY_NOOB

Bulgaria1442 Posts

May 08 2017 08:21 GMT

#29

On April 20 2017 00:13 orc.hid wrote:
i picked up brood war for two reasons: one being that a lot of the more prominent figureheads in the gaming community i consider myself a part of (the super smash brothers melee community) talk a lot about brood war and the similarities our communities had shared (grassroots startups in terms of esports) and the basic groundwork for shoutcasting professional level esports; the other being that a high school friend of mine i still talk to quite often used to play and talk about this a lot while we were in high school. the problem i have is that he's not really able to teach me some things and cant be bothered to give me a list of things to learn how to do, not that he should.

my question to you seasoned players is how do i get started in playing brood war? what are some key mechanics i should work on, and how do i know which race is for me?

i appreciate any replies, i hope to become decent at brood war no matter how long it takes, im very intrigued by this game and the legacy its left behind and i would love to indulge. thank you!

If you want to practice against new players you can join NHFFA discord here:

https://discord.gg/kWNQvnd

Also the current state of noobs is captured here in a very entertaining way: