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orc.hid
United States3 Posts
my question to you seasoned players is how do i get started in playing brood war? what are some key mechanics i should work on, and how do i know which race is for me? i appreciate any replies, i hope to become decent at brood war no matter how long it takes, im very intrigued by this game and the legacy its left behind and i would love to indulge. thank you! | ||
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J.Dong
United States102 Posts
The first mechanic you will need is to be able to gain and use your resources effectively, building units and unit production structures (macro). | ||
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orc.hid
United States3 Posts
On April 20 2017 01:50 J.Dong wrote: Get the game (from Blizzard, filesharing site, or custom client such as shield battery) and play. I highly recommend playing through the campaign, since you will get to see all the units and the lore/story is very good. You will definitely know which race you like by then. The first mechanic you will need is to be able to gain and use your resources effectively, building units and unit production structures (macro). thank you for the reply, i will keep that in mind. i was also told to pay more attention to accuracy, not apm. | ||
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kogeT
Poland2039 Posts
This will save you around 10 years of learning. Best P is Bisu/Best/Free/Rain/Stork Best Z is Jaedong/Effort/Hero/Soulkey/Zero Best T is Flash/Last/Sea | ||
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Highgamer
1408 Posts
If you want to get better quickly, I think these are some good advices to chose from: Try to follow a systematic approach instead of just massing games. You shouldn't lose all the fun studying, but it's better to practice well-informed than to waste time based on flawed information. Study good players' live-streams or Vods and replays of their games. Watch carefully and think for yourself, start with the general questions: What is a Real-Time-Strategy game about? What are the goals and components of every game of BW you see? What do you have to practice to play so fast and efficient? Go step by step. Play the campaign. Pick a race, one matchup to practice, and one common map to practice on. Pick one build-order for that match-up. Pick one hotkey-setup for your race and matchup. Practice without opponent first or against a friend who doesn't rofl-stomp you. Practice your mechanics (macro and micro with hotkeys and precise mouse-clicks) and your build-order well. Before you play real opponents, make a plan how you want to beat them, what your overall strategy is and what attack you want to win the game with. Study your own replays, identify mistakes and fix them one by one, not all at once, starting with the most basic ones. Seek the advice of better players who are willing to help you, find good players online and ask them to coach you. If you don't know a term I or someone is using: Learn to use the encyclopedia called Liquidpedia (see above on this site), and the search-function in this forum. There are threads and posts for everything in the different BroodWar-Sections (the Strategy-Section in your case). Use the "Simple Questions Simple Answers"-Thread in the strategy-section for everything you can't figure out yourself. | ||
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orc.hid
United States3 Posts
On April 20 2017 05:13 Highgamer wrote: If you just enjoy playing this game, don't let anyone bother you with how to play it. If you want to get better quickly, I think these are some good advices to chose from: Try to follow a systematic approach instead of just massing games. You shouldn't lose all the fun studying, but it's better to practice well-informed than to waste time based on flawed information. Study good players' live-streams or Vods and replays of their games. Watch carefully and think for yourself, start with the general questions: What is a Real-Time-Strategy game about? What are the goals and components of every game of BW you see? What do you have to practice to play so fast and efficient? Go step by step. Play the campaign. Pick a race, one matchup to practice, and one common map to practice on. Pick one build-order for that match-up. Pick one hotkey-setup for your race and matchup. Practice without opponent first or against a friend who doesn't rofl-stomp you. Practice your mechanics (macro and micro with hotkeys and precise mouse-clicks) and your build-order well. Before you play real opponents, make a plan how you want to beat them, what your overall strategy is and what attack you want to win the game with. Study your own replays, identify mistakes and fix them one by one, not all at once, starting with the most basic ones. Seek the advice of better players who are willing to help you, find good players online and ask them to coach you. If you don't know a term I or someone is using: Learn to use the encyclopedia called Liquidpedia (see above on this site), and the search-function in this forum. There are threads and posts for everything in the different BroodWar-Sections (the Strategy-Section in your case). Use the "Simple Questions Simple Answers"-Thread in the strategy-section for everything you can't figure out yourself. very informing, thank you for your reply. | ||
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DarkNetHunter
1224 Posts
I think the first thing to note is, don't get overwhelmed. You'll receive lots of information, guides and advice here, but at the end of it all, it's just about playing the game and having fun. Playing 1v1s is good (same as in Smash) but having a fun old 3v3 BGH (3 vs 3 players on the blizzard map Big Game Hunters (which has no resources constraint)) can be lots of fun as well. Coming from Smash Melee you'll be able to quickly grasp certain concepts such as : Mechanics (each race and many units have specific mechanics in Brood War, similar to all the Smash characters, certain playstyles are only viable if you have mastered the necessary mechanics for it) Matchups and maps (advantages and playstyles, map specific knowledge) I think one of the key differences you'll have to deal with is lack of information. In Smash while your opponent can trick and bate you and play mind games, you're still always aware of where his character is on the screen. In BroodWar you are often playing on limited information, hence you need to Scout (looking for you opponent and seeing what choices/builds they've made). I would in addition to the knowledge posted above suggest you check out: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:Beginners http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:Beginners/Mechanics http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:Beginners/Gateways http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:Beginners/Replays otherwise as others have said, download the game(currently free from Blizzard, can also be gotten multiplayer only from iccup.com ) and just play some games vs the computer to get a feel for it. As Highgamer said, use the http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/220903-simple-questions-simple-answers?page=309 thread if you have any straightforward questions, people will get back to you quickly. | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1689 Posts
Link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/418999-zvp-broodwar-guide Enjoy playing, above all other things! | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
Try all races, but in the end, after you get comfortable, try narrowing it down to just one race. Watch progamer vods (like in the post liked above, the korhal site, or to the right, look for TLPD and choose "BW Korea" and search for players listed above, then go to their games list and click on the yellow + signs left of the game to access the vod). Try to be precise with the mouse, it's more important than speed. Speed will come later, and then you'll have both. Doing it the other way is harder. Also try to learn all the hotkeys and their functions (there are many many, which even some good players don't know), read it up on some page (maybe liquipedia, not sure how complete the hotkey list there is). Have a good mix of players to play against. When you get too cocky, it's good to play against a vastly superior player, just to get perspective. In most cases it's best to play vs people around your level or slightly above you. Playing against weaker players can help you train mechanics and builds, and to identify some things which can be exploited, which you then test vs stronger players. Get ready to get your ass handed to you many many many times while you try things out, before you can start winning here and there! It's fun! :D Not sure what a good server to start on is... maybe make games with NOOBS ONLY in the game name on iCCup? | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
whoa this is tight AF | ||
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shin ken
Germany612 Posts
When you've already played more modern RTS's, it's hard to get accustomed to the fact, that the map is not visible at the start. If you're unfamiliar with the layout, you're almost unable to scout and playing more of a game of exploration and you're at an extreme disatvantage against enemys that already now it (including the CPU!). What helps is printing map layouts from Liquipedia/TLPD on cardboard or display them otherwise at first (second monitor, tablet). You can also mark starting positions, chokepoints and expansions to see them more easily. Of course you should try and remember the maps as fast as possible so you don't have to rely on this crutch for too long, but the start is a lot less frustrating with this method. You can also add a simple build-order to guide you through your first games, until you know it by heart. Popular maps are  Fighting Spirit, Destination, Blue Storm, Circuit Breaker and Python.BTW "beginner friendly" build orders and guides are marked with the " ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/a/a3/BronzeProof.png) " symbol on liquipedia. | ||
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AndreasHeideman
Sweden30 Posts
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psd
France91 Posts
It's very helpful to have 1 or 2 go to build for every match-up (doesn't realy matter what kind of build). By doing this you will be able to play early-mid game. I used to be playing somewhat randomly depending on how i feel the game goes and it didn't go too well =(. | ||
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Broodwar4lyf
304 Posts
play vs low level humans | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4334 Posts
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ArmadA[NaS]
United States347 Posts
Terran is Fox, Zerg is Falco, Protoss is Marth. No low tiers in BW. | ||
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
On April 25 2017 23:34 f10eqq wrote: Fighting Spirit is the Final Destination of Brood War. Terran is Fox, Zerg is Falco, Protoss is Marth. No low tiers in BW. More like: Fox (best) > Sheik > Marth > Fox Zerg > Protoss > Terran (best) > Zerg Terran/Marth = Humans Zerg/Fox = Animals Protoss/Shiek = Easy for noobs :p | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
smash goes so deep and it's really daunting to get into. but i think it's important to just have fun with the game. you'll naturally get better if you ease into it slowly and enjoy the game, instead of trying to 'get ahead' right away. i stopped trying to catch up to my friends who have played for years and just try to enjoy the movement and tech, and catch games when i can. i'd recommend playing team games/bgh or dicking around on UMS maps. those are always a blast | ||
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
On April 26 2017 13:38 intrigue wrote: i just started playing smash last year after being a bw vet since the beginning, so i feel the same way as you. smash goes so deep and it's really daunting to get into. but i think it's important to just have fun with the game. you'll naturally get better if you ease into it slowly and enjoy the game, instead of trying to 'get ahead' right away. i stopped trying to catch up to my friends who have played for years and just try to enjoy the movement and tech, and catch games when i can. i'd recommend playing team games/bgh or dicking around on UMS maps. those are always a blast I've spent like 3 years becoming proficient at melee I don't know why I'm deciding to pick up broodwar now. If I just played league this whole time I'd probably add 5 years on my lifespan. I think I'm just a sadist. | ||
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
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