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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
December 17 2017 06:04 GMT
#181
On December 02 2017 19:09 garsh0p wrote:
Hi Scan, I have a question about your TvP 4fact build as a Protoss player

My friend has replicated your build and I'm having a ton of trouble defending the ~7 minute push with 6 tanks. I generally open with the 21 Nexus build on Liquipedia. What's the proper response as a Protoss player if I scout the 1rax FE to be able to defend the 7 minute push? Is it possible to take a fast 3rd and still make enough units to defend, or should I be going for some 2 base tech build? I find that the standard ob timing with 21 Nexus is too slow to scout the # of factories before the Terran moves out. Should I cut goons to get the robo earlier?

The proper response as a protoss player against 4 factory timing push would be making a Reaver or pure Dragoons with mixing few Zealots in the battle(at least 6 gateways).
You are also required to stop making Probes in order to boost up your army count and adding gateways(I assume you have 3rd nexus).
When you are stopping his first push, you won't have zealot speed, and that is completely fine. You'll have to use Shuttle after first 2 Observers in the map.

I believe a lot of Protoss players get their Shuttle with 3 Zealots after first 11 Dragoons(Pure standard opening into 3 gateways max).
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
December 21 2017 18:16 GMT
#182
Hello Scan,

I'm trying to incorporate the F keys into my gameplay more frequently.

In the old days I never used F keys. I use 4 for CC in early game and then later if I wanted to make scv from main + nat CC I'd use 0 and 9. Once comsat were built, I'd hotkey those to 0 and 9, so it was rather time consuming to make scv--it would go 00 (center on comsat) > click CC > click SCV, 99 (center on comsat) > click CC > click SCV. I used double-tap hotkey on one macro building to center screen and make units, and when I wanted to rally I'd quickly hotkey 4 macro buildings, assign rally, repeat (say I have 9 facts, I'd hotkey four of them to 5 6 7 8, set rally, hotkey next 4 to 5 6 7 8, set rally, etc).

In experimenting using F keys it's readily apparent how much faster rallying and transferring SCVs is when using them. I read in some other thread that you use F2 (main + macro), F3 natural, F4 rally. Does that mean you use F2 F3 for making SCVs from your CCs? Do you go F2 > click CC > press S or F2 > click CC > click SCV (and repeat for F3)? When I use an F hotkey for my CC, I usually have it perfectly centered over the CC so when I press F2 the CC is always in the middle of the screen. Since you use F2 for macro + CC, does that mean you have F2 centered somewhere in between the CC and the macro buildings, so your base design is extremely important to avoid excess screen scrolling after you press F2?

I know these are pretty minute and detailed questions so thank you for potentially answering them!
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