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Mech any viable vs Zerg?

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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
May 29 2006 11:40 GMT
#1
I know that it's definitely not a common strategy, but I've finally arrived at the conclusion that I'm a flaming failure at microing infantry. It's really getting in the way of my TvZ game. I've seen Boxer going mech vs zerg, but then again he's fucking Boxer, he can do anything.

Are there any good replays of people going a mech build vs Zerg these days, or is it pretty much a long dead strat?
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greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
May 29 2006 11:44 GMT
#2
yoshs old replays are like this... i think he generally got 2 armory after the 2 facts and upgraded really fast with expo
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-29 12:42:51
May 29 2006 12:07 GMT
#3
Not really, except maybe on a huge map like Arcadia. I'm kind of toynig with using it there.

Edit: by not really, I meant it's not really viable.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
May 29 2006 12:08 GMT
#4
Yeah I've been trying it alot. I've found it does *much* better on maps where zerg does not have immediate access to a gas expo. Also helps to hide the build by going dual rax early. I'd love some replays though so I can learn when pro's are doing.
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nS-g.OoZi
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada92 Posts
May 29 2006 12:11 GMT
#5
try going 1 fac / CC / port : ) it rapes. As long as you scout his tech, and can counter it properly its a really good build. If he goes muta, make gol / valk, vs hydra / lurk go tank mines, but if you do this, your scouting has to be really good, because some ppl do really weird things vs tech. If they mass ling you just make bunk + a couple vults and get a fast wraith
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A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-29 12:16:06
May 29 2006 12:15 GMT
#6
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This is a Boxer FPVOD vs. Junwi, where Boxer goes Mech.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
May 29 2006 12:18 GMT
#7
It sure is in maps without gas at expo like nostalgia.
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strik.fr
Profile Joined May 2006
France212 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-29 13:33:21
May 29 2006 13:32 GMT
#8
1 fact fast c 3 vult & spider mines to scout expands and harrass a bit , during this time u can scv abuse and just contain till u are sure of z plan.

U must aboslutely upgrade and u should maybe put 4 vcs for each gas since it will be difficult to have enough gas to mass metal before a third command and u will prolly need everytime some vessels: the tvz metal is : at start u have the adavantage with vultures because z can't do nothing dangerous..

Mid game is the "hot time" it's mainly why it's not adviced to metal vs z : u have to not let him expanding everywhere while loosing a minimum of units and producing; If u can't keep about 60% of your army after about 12 minutes and with 6/7 facts + upgrades zerg will be defeated by a huge mass of metal : that's TERRAN POWER yeah! Many zerg will drop u mass hydra/lings at this moment : the mistake should be to go back to defend : just lift buildings and kill him.

Don't hesitate to make a lot of vultures to support gol/tanks especially till mid game.

Terran 3-3 180/200 rules whatever happens.But it's exhausting games. I also tried to make a "mix" of metal/mm after a "classic start metal". I should try to improve it i feel it could be efficient especially when zerg plans to full muts but the timings are quite difficult to evaluate.



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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 29 2006 15:25 GMT
#9
There is a person in new zealand who has the best metal tvz semi-hang bang rush ive seen...
its godly.. ill dig up the rep when i have time...
anyway, yes it is valid, what this guy did was goliath tank off one base and basicly hangbang the zerg , aiming to kill the expo- his only fault was not expanding x) im sure its perfectly viable
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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
May 29 2006 16:52 GMT
#10
works as a suprise strat sometimes, i wouldn't use it twice in a row though
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
May 29 2006 17:07 GMT
#11
zerg will scout it and change to hydra/ling accordingly.

so stop the zerg from scouting it.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
May 29 2006 17:12 GMT
#12
On May 30 2006 01:52 Resonate wrote:
works as a suprise strat sometimes, i wouldn't use it twice in a row though


This is really all you need to know.
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Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
May 29 2006 18:45 GMT
#13
On May 30 2006 02:07 ZaplinG wrote:
zerg will scout it and change to hydra/ling accordingly.

so stop the zerg from scouting it.


Wouldn't muta/ling be much more dangerous. Considering metal doesn't have anything to deal with muts.
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nite1
Profile Joined May 2006
Croatia45 Posts
May 29 2006 20:00 GMT
#14
yea, mutas pwn goliats with goliath having explosive damage and muta being medium
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
May 29 2006 20:29 GMT
#15
depends on map... this has been discussed 200 times before.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 29 2006 20:50 GMT
#16
On May 29 2006 21:18 IntoTheWow wrote:
It sure is in maps without gas at expo like nostalgia.

Boxer's 2 fac vult -> cc -> 2 fac tank/many rax marine build for nostalgia is awesome :D
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 29 2006 21:53 GMT
#17
mech is very very viable

its hard to pull off properly but, its really good if you can do it right
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
May 29 2006 21:56 GMT
#18
On May 30 2006 01:52 Resonate wrote:
works as a suprise strat sometimes, i wouldn't use it twice in a row though


not exactly true

if you play against a good player who's doing it, it doesn't exactly matter so much. Mech is very strong in general, even on gas natural maps
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ShabZzoY!
Profile Joined July 2004
Great Britain760 Posts
May 29 2006 23:14 GMT
#19
muta is small not medium
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
May 29 2006 23:37 GMT
#20
I know Nada pulled a mech build against Chojja in the game on Bifrost in the Panasonic finals.
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