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Apathy
Profile Joined June 2003
United States141 Posts
May 29 2006 23:58 GMT
#21
get some old NTT replays
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28786 Posts
May 30 2006 00:40 GMT
#22
I used to use mech quite a lot. but I only used it in situations where my opponents were unable to expand to their natural fast. if zerg gets like 18 mutas and you've been going goliaths you're fucked cause you won't have any gas for vessels, and even if you have more than enough goliaths to rape his mutas head on, you'll never get to fight him head on. either you wait in base and he expands twice+ more and ends up getting 4 gas vs your 2 or you try to attack and get harassed to death while you're trying to attack something and then when he's done harassing you to death he can just send back mutas and eventually kill off your troops
or you can split up and get both troops raped
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
May 30 2006 01:24 GMT
#23
On May 30 2006 05:50 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2006 21:18 IntoTheWow wrote:
It sure is in maps without gas at expo like nostalgia.

Boxer's 2 fac vult -> cc -> 2 fac tank/many rax marine build for nostalgia is awesome :D


yeah its actually really strong on nostalgia

then again, almost everything is really strong TvZ on nostalgia
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phexac
Profile Joined March 2004
United States186 Posts
May 30 2006 02:02 GMT
#24
How about getting 5-7 valks if he goes for muta. You can put vultures on the ground to counter lings and go valk/vult, then once you have 5+ valks switch back to tank/golie.
Dantak
Profile Joined January 2006
Czech Republic648 Posts
May 30 2006 02:25 GMT
#25
Why are u guyz so lazy nowadays?

Why dont u use search button?


http://teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=TvZ mech&t=t&f=all&u=
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
May 30 2006 03:29 GMT
#26
muta/ling followed up by hydra/defiler pwns mech.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
May 30 2006 03:40 GMT
#27
On May 30 2006 11:02 phexac wrote:
How about getting 5-7 valks if he goes for muta. You can put vultures on the ground to counter lings and go valk/vult, then once you have 5+ valks switch back to tank/golie.


I would just go hydras to defiler plague even swarm just as if I would vs. corsair/reaver but it would be 30 times easier. I honestly think mech sucks vs. zerg but if you do it timing will be everything. Timing as in when to attack when opponent is offguard, constant unit check with scan, map control.
GoaLD50
Profile Joined February 2006
United States41 Posts
May 30 2006 08:01 GMT
#28
On May 30 2006 11:25 PetrBlaha wrote:
Why are u guyz so lazy nowadays?

Why dont u use search button?


http://teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=TvZ mech&t=t&f=all&u=


This is funny, because this forum (and the game) has been around so long that most discussion is rehashed stuff, so actually if I wanted to hear someone say "GO USE SEARCH FUNCTION", I would do a search for it.

Actually, it seems that, excepting those who say "go search it up", most ppl would rather just talk it over again. Who cares if someone said something before. It's a discussion board, lets discuss!
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
May 31 2006 02:02 GMT
#29
i agree

some people even seem to get pissed if you bump an old thread
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 31 2006 03:05 GMT
#30
On May 30 2006 11:25 PetrBlaha wrote:
Why are u guyz so lazy nowadays?

Why dont u use search button?


http://teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=TvZ mech&t=t&f=all&u=


Because they knew your tool ass would do it for them !! <3
StarOfDust
Profile Joined September 2005
Sweden163 Posts
May 31 2006 04:25 GMT
#31
If you play a stupid-ass zerg with somewhat bad scouting (aka me) you might get it to work really good even at decent lvls of gaming, but if you play a Zerg who doesn't drink 2 litres of coffe every day insted of sleeping it would probably be harder.
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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
May 31 2006 05:06 GMT
#32
On May 30 2006 17:01 GoaLD50 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2006 11:25 PetrBlaha wrote:
Why are u guyz so lazy nowadays?

Why dont u use search button?


http://teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=TvZ mech&t=t&f=all&u=


This is funny, because this forum (and the game) has been around so long that most discussion is rehashed stuff, so actually if I wanted to hear someone say "GO USE SEARCH FUNCTION", I would do a search for it.

Actually, it seems that, excepting those who say "go search it up", most ppl would rather just talk it over again. Who cares if someone said something before. It's a discussion board, lets discuss!


Not to mention that the last thread that discussed this was over a year ago.

Since this game evolves, it would make much more sense to bring up a topic after a year instead of re-reading outdated information.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
June 03 2006 10:20 GMT
#33
Alright so my meching vs Zerg has actually been going pretty well. My most successful plan thus far has been opening totally standard, with 2 rax and pumping rines to my cliff. Ideally they scout this and think everything is going according to plan. Throw down 3 early facts, pump vultures, and then spring for as many drone kills as possible. Spider mines finish usually as I'm hitting him, and so if I got past the sunkens I can mine up his base, otherwise I go lay down at all expos. From there on vultures are mining up, and constantly checking for expo attempts.

I've usually been expanding right as I send out the vulture armies, and throw down my armories, more facts, and start getting goliaths. I found that valks are so much better than I origionally thought, and just 2-3 can really mess an army of mutas who would usually beat goliaths. Anyway I've been very successful, (probably a 75% win rate at C lvl pgt), on every map except Luna. I can't seem to do my usual strat on this map. The zerg always seems to sunken up more than usual, and then go for expos and macro the crap out of me.

People have said that another common mech strat is 1fact into expo. Can someone give a rep, or go into a bit more detail? I think that a fast expo strategy might well be the solution to Luna.
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XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
June 03 2006 10:22 GMT
#34
On May 29 2006 20:44 greatmeh wrote:
yoshs old replays are like this... i think he generally got 2 armory after the 2 facts and upgraded really fast with expo


so in general a TvP build.
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
June 03 2006 11:41 GMT
#35
stop beating around the bush and learn marine micro.
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inc
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden889 Posts
June 03 2006 11:43 GMT
#36
you should watch some kenka replays, at a time he was using only tech,gl.
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
June 03 2006 11:57 GMT
#37
On May 30 2006 09:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I used to use mech quite a lot. but I only used it in situations where my opponents were unable to expand to their natural fast. if zerg gets like 18 mutas and you've been going goliaths you're fucked cause you won't have any gas for vessels, and even if you have more than enough goliaths to rape his mutas head on, you'll never get to fight him head on. either you wait in base and he expands twice+ more and ends up getting 4 gas vs your 2 or you try to attack and get harassed to death while you're trying to attack something and then when he's done harassing you to death he can just send back mutas and eventually kill off your troops
or you can split up and get both troops raped


precisely. Metal doesn't work so well vs large numbers of muta with armor upgrades, supported by lings with armor. Terran really needs an ultimate unit that can deal with practically anything zerg makes. Something that can handle mutas and lings alright, but still handle lurkers or hydras as well with vessel and tank support. It's called the marine.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-06-03 12:53:29
June 03 2006 12:46 GMT
#38
On June 03 2006 20:43 inc wrote:
you should watch some kenka replays, at a time he was using only tech,gl.


Any good places to find replays of this fellow? I've found a few (2) at the Areola site, but he isn't meching in any of them.

Edit: found some more on gg.net, but still no meching action. Does he have any AKAs?
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
June 03 2006 13:45 GMT
#39
it works pretty good with 14 cc

i dont think its so great withot it though.

Nada beat Chojja with mech twice in the final(1 game was island though)

whatever that retarded 3 player ice map with the natural in yoru base after your ramp, you can go fast cc on that and mech and it works really well.
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