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On April 17 2005 20:50 Locked wrote:
i remember that post/thread.....
thx a lot for making it, its helped my PvT out a _lot_ since i first saw it
(i use it on LT)
and i tend to go for slowly building carriers instead of arbs because at my level noone i've found can stand up to ~6 unscouted carriers and if i ever hit 12 along with good obs/sair support not even mass wraiths can kill them (and use cliffs to gay up gols)
I do not recommend this, get used to Arbiter control asap, you're using a crutch right now, an analogy of this would be you go 4 pool, if he scouts it you lose, if he doesn't scout it you win. There are obviously situations where you go carrier, but only when you are so economically ahead that you can put down 4 stargates asap and start pumping, not build 1-2 carrier at a time. It's way too much of an investment that he can kill you unsieged before your 1-2 carriers even come out.
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Arbiters are so temendously much better than carriers (yes, I know that was bad grammar). I usually go 2gate ranged goon/obs --> expo --> 5gate --> expo/arbiter/7+gates
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I dunno about arbiters. I like carriers better +_+
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
carriers are a huge investment, not well timed they often result in a too low troop count on the ground, which a good terran will take advantage from. arbiters can more easily be built without harming your troop count, you have spare gas anyway.
of cource carriers have their use, it's all situational after all. i love arbiters though, plus they are much cuter than carriers!
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AND beating a Terran with arbiters does bring kind of a slight humiliation factor into play.
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what does nazgul do PvT??
i know he has amazing pvt but i don't think i've ever seen more than a couple reps +_+
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Should all races put 4 on gas?
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On April 19 2005 15:47 ihatett wrote:
Should all races put 4 on gas?
terran should never put 4 on gas
toss/zerg not sure
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On April 19 2005 20:27 Locked wrote:terran should never put 4 on gas toss/zerg not sure
Where did you make up this theory? In TvT, the bottleneck is often gas, and a 4th gas is often placed on - in TvP, when you need to pump tanks one will often put 4 on both their min and natural gas...
For the poster above - wtf = what the fuck, pushing is when the terran pushes using missile turret + siege mode + spider mine to gain terrain.
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On April 19 2005 13:47 Dl33ter wrote:
AND beating a Terran with arbiters does bring kind of a slight humiliation factor into play.
not at all, it's the hardest thing to beat for the terran
terrans should feel humiliated when they lose to carriers
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i dunno about arb tech>carrier tech in pvt. It seems progamers go carriers at least 4x as much as arbs in pvt. Those who belive arb tech is better please explain.
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On April 19 2005 22:30 exalted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2005 20:27 Locked wrote:On April 19 2005 15:47 ihatett wrote:
Should all races put 4 on gas? terran should never put 4 on gas toss/zerg not sure Where did you make up this theory.
casper said so ;D
statistics put not more than a little gas gained as terran (atleast any of the ones i've seen)
edit: i also see progamers go for carriers much more than arbiters, am i just watching the wrong VODs and reading all the wrong reports or what X_X
in fact the only time i can remember arbs really being used is when rA used the hallucination/recall against goodfriend on parallel lines....
i see many many games with carriers, particularly reach or maybe kingdom lategame
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That's a really great glossary!
I'm amazed how accurate those definitions are
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many thx.
i login BN Forums very few. so i miss that dics.
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I'm not arguing against it, but I don't understand how putting more probes on gas makes them harvest faster. With 3 probes, each one waits for a split second before entering.
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carriers do have their place. usually if you win against terran you win because you are winning the open ground battles and are getting more expansions then the terran. you can turn your economic superiority into 6 carriers rather quickly by plopping down 3-6 stargates instantly after a major battle that you come out on top of.
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RiSE get to school. 
Love this guide, helping my PvT a lot (much needed :o)
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Thnx for the guide i've been working on my PvT recently and i think this will help me out in the long run 
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