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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
April 23 2005 04:21 GMT
#41
On April 21 2005 06:45 volair wrote:
carriers do have their place. usually if you win against terran you win because you are winning the open ground battles and are getting more expansions then the terran. you can turn your economic superiority into 6 carriers rather quickly by plopping down 3-6 stargates instantly after a major battle that you come out on top of.



you can also just make units and arbiters and win all the same, with much less risk involved


maybe you could even turn your economic advantage into mass scouts? You can afford it, so it must be good
DANCE ALL DAY
volair
Profile Joined April 2005
United States20 Posts
April 27 2005 00:43 GMT
#42
grot, you fool! there is more reason to using carriers then "i can afford them so why not". you get carriers because they own terran hard. come forth on east realm b.net for a demonstration if you like.
NOBODY DIES A VIRGIN. LIFE ----- US ALL.
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
April 27 2005 01:05 GMT
#43
On April 27 2005 09:43 volair wrote:
grot, you fool! there is more reason to using carriers then "i can afford them so why not". you get carriers because they own terran hard. come forth on east realm b.net for a demonstration if you like.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL

GROT WOULD TEAR YOU APART

I'll play you on his behalf - /m exalted on east. I'm sure he won't mind me posting a topic after we have a liquiownage.
too easy
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 27 2005 01:45 GMT
#44
hey, i like volair. when i saw in the other thread that was responding to a banned guy in a year old topic, i had quite a chuckle.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
volair
Profile Joined April 2005
United States20 Posts
April 27 2005 02:22 GMT
#45
ill be on 9-11 or so eastern time tonight. ill own you so hard you will cry.
NOBODY DIES A VIRGIN. LIFE ----- US ALL.
SainT
Profile Joined February 2005
Chile1067 Posts
April 27 2005 06:53 GMT
#46
On April 27 2005 11:22 volair wrote:
ill be on 9-11 or so eastern time tonight. ill own you so hard you will cry.

hmm i wanna play... where @?
Well i'm a lucky man...
MannerMentos
Profile Joined June 2005
United States9 Posts
June 22 2005 11:26 GMT
#47
omg jesus loves you bigballs ^ ^ great strats, ich liebe dich :D
Kelly, Ich werde Sie lieben, bis Sie sterben
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
June 22 2005 12:18 GMT
#48
do you have sex with dead wildebeasts?
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-22 12:36:17
June 22 2005 12:36 GMT
#49
so did that ^ game ever get played or just get turned into another dead challenge
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
phexac
Profile Joined March 2004
United States186 Posts
June 23 2005 01:11 GMT
#50
The whole Imma own you aside, saying that going carrier is a bad idea in any situation is just plain dumb. Let's see...on one side almost every toss programer and top player uses carriers in a significant portion of long games, and on the other side we have Grot. Hum I wonder who is right here...
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
June 23 2005 03:48 GMT
#51
On June 23 2005 10:11 phexac wrote:
The whole Imma own you aside, saying that going carrier is a bad idea in any situation is just plain dumb. Let's see...on one side almost every toss programer and top player uses carriers in a significant portion of long games, and on the other side we have Grot. Hum I wonder who is right here...


you should go on east tonight, volair will be on from 9-11
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-23 03:59:23
June 23 2005 03:57 GMT
#52
I wouldn't make arbs vs oov nada etc -_-;; Anywayz I am making a lot of arbs these days kekekek. However vs really good gosu terrans I am forced to go carriers --;; Once you get an advantage directly carrier -_-;;
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
June 23 2005 07:05 GMT
#53
thats false

carriers are for people who are ridiculous with them. i think arbiters are much easier to use. carriers also require a certain feel. you need to know precisely when to go them, what mixture to make your army, how to raid bases and use them to your advantage. it takes a lot of skill to go carriers while arbiters are just a good complement to a ground army.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
June 23 2005 07:28 GMT
#54
That's what I am saying. There are moments that carriers are good and moments where arbiters are good. You can't say that arbiters will "always" make you win the game.
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
June 23 2005 07:48 GMT
#55
that's not what youre saying at all. youre saying you would rather go carriers against a good player. im saying you need to be very skilled to even use them effectively or gols will beat you.

and i never said arbiters will always win you the game.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
June 23 2005 08:24 GMT
#56
oops ok kekeke
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
June 23 2005 09:16 GMT
#57
to be honest, carriers are better than arbiters, but i feel so much more comfortable going arbiters. adding to that, outside of korea the only people ive seen who actually knew how to use arbiters were zelotito, leg, smuft and grrrr, and 3 of those players all lived in korea. i really think unless you have an amazing skill with them and know all the subtleties that come along with going carriers, arbiters are better.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
June 23 2005 10:15 GMT
#58
I have been using both these days. Both seems very good and a must in late game +_+
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 24 2005 09:06 GMT
#59
Bigballs you left out rekrul intentionally? kekeke But yes your strategies works good and very detailed. People who looking forward to master pvt is a must read. However it's not as simple as what bigball put it, you still have to partice alot to actually get it to work. I'm sure bigballs hasn't tell all his secret yet ^^ it's time to give it all up~!~!
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-24 13:13:11
June 24 2005 13:12 GMT
#60
bigballs wrote
3) storm sucks. if you are playing a good terran, the only use for storm is on drops, and im far too slow to get everything i need done while harassing their minerals. i also dont like having my shuttles away from home in case they decide to drop



Now, I don't consider myself that good of a player, but I've played enough TvP against some very, very good protoss players and I have to say that this is absolutely, 100% untrue. Storm is very useful in many ways; not only in a harass capacity (300 apm toss make very good use of storm drops), but against pushes (especially when T gets lazy and just unsieged army attacks), and even on slow pushes (if P is attacking and gets storm on vults/small cluster of tanks, it makes a big difference). Saying storm sucks is just...

dumb.
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