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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
December 09 2004 13:46 GMT
#21
On December 09 2004 19:31 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2004 18:52 pooper-scooper wrote:
it is much harder to make a ling proof wall though


In some positions it simply isn't possible. The only one you can do a ling proof wall on is the one depot build @ 9. There are many variations, such as the standard 2 depot wall in @ 9, (if you don't want to give the enemy equal ground).

In team games when playing against zergs I usually wall and place an SCV in the "crack" on the inside with the marines behind it. Works quite well actually.


It is possible if you build a third depot above the little gap where the lings normally slip in. There is a small gap for lings to fit through on the left and right of depots, but lings can't get through the top/bottom of them.
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J1
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada579 Posts
December 09 2004 14:39 GMT
#22
On December 09 2004 22:46 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2004 19:31 ManaBlue wrote:
On December 09 2004 18:52 pooper-scooper wrote:
it is much harder to make a ling proof wall though


In some positions it simply isn't possible. The only one you can do a ling proof wall on is the one depot build @ 9. There are many variations, such as the standard 2 depot wall in @ 9, (if you don't want to give the enemy equal ground).

In team games when playing against zergs I usually wall and place an SCV in the "crack" on the inside with the marines behind it. Works quite well actually.


It is possible if you build a third depot above the little gap where the lings normally slip in. There is a small gap for lings to fit through on the left and right of depots, but lings can't get through the top/bottom of them.


if the zerg player uses the burrow trick (burrow in one spot and unburrow on top of each other) they will get inside ur wall no matter how concealed it is
Playing games in the ways of the DIAO...
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28781 Posts
December 09 2004 16:21 GMT
#23
On December 09 2004 19:31 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2004 18:52 pooper-scooper wrote:
it is much harder to make a ling proof wall though


In some positions it simply isn't possible. The only one you can do a ling proof wall on is the one depot build @ 9. There are many variations, such as the standard 2 depot wall in @ 9, (if you don't want to give the enemy equal ground).

In team games when playing against zergs I usually wall and place an SCV in the "crack" on the inside with the marines behind it. Works quite well actually.


lingproof wallins are possible on every position on temple.

on 6/12 make a standard wallin and swap the middle depot for an academy
on 9 everyone knows how
on 3 make a standard wallin and place a third depot right above the two you have. (in such a fashion that 2/3 of the depot is above the right depot, and 1/3 of the depot is above the left one. )
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Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
December 09 2004 19:43 GMT
#24
At 9 o' clock I always make a ling-proof, zealot-proof, and marine-proof wall. It's much easier to do at that position, but slightly annoying if I want to send a marine out to scout.

I'm like, wtf?! Go through marine! Lift rax .
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2720 Posts
December 09 2004 20:01 GMT
#25
On December 09 2004 23:39 J-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2004 22:46 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On December 09 2004 19:31 ManaBlue wrote:
On December 09 2004 18:52 pooper-scooper wrote:
it is much harder to make a ling proof wall though


In some positions it simply isn't possible. The only one you can do a ling proof wall on is the one depot build @ 9. There are many variations, such as the standard 2 depot wall in @ 9, (if you don't want to give the enemy equal ground).

In team games when playing against zergs I usually wall and place an SCV in the "crack" on the inside with the marines behind it. Works quite well actually.


It is possible if you build a third depot above the little gap where the lings normally slip in. There is a small gap for lings to fit through on the left and right of depots, but lings can't get through the top/bottom of them.


if the zerg player uses the burrow trick (burrow in one spot and unburrow on top of each other) they will get inside ur wall no matter how concealed it is


yes, but it's quite hard to do it, when there are marines shooting at you, because most players still build some marines, especially zvt and by the time you have burrow, the terran may have marines/vulture unless you are doing some sort of fast burrow build
I have returned
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
December 09 2004 20:39 GMT
#26
hahahaha.....u are isnane
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13358 Posts
December 09 2004 21:16 GMT
#27
If you're on a desert map you can't wall in properly (the ramps are too fat).

I've always wondered why toss players don't abuse this more
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17053 Posts
December 10 2004 04:37 GMT
#28
I've wondered too :O Same with the Ice ramps, but seriously, who plays on ice maps anyway

Drone's responce was probably one of the most helpful. One thing to watch out for, though, is that even a Zealot can get through some things that Probes/SCVs/Drones cannot, an example being a one pylon wall on Bifrost. Zealots get through more things than workers is what I'm trying to say haha :O
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SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
December 10 2004 04:49 GMT
#29
On December 10 2004 01:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2004 19:31 ManaBlue wrote:
On December 09 2004 18:52 pooper-scooper wrote:
it is much harder to make a ling proof wall though


In some positions it simply isn't possible. The only one you can do a ling proof wall on is the one depot build @ 9. There are many variations, such as the standard 2 depot wall in @ 9, (if you don't want to give the enemy equal ground).

In team games when playing against zergs I usually wall and place an SCV in the "crack" on the inside with the marines behind it. Works quite well actually.


lingproof wallins are possible on every position on temple.

on 6/12 make a standard wallin and swap the middle depot for an academy
on 9 everyone knows how
on 3 make a standard wallin and place a third depot right above the two you have. (in such a fashion that 2/3 of the depot is above the right depot, and 1/3 of the depot is above the left one. )

ling proof wall @ 3!? now thats gosu..
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
December 10 2004 04:53 GMT
#30
i always mess up my wall when i first play lt....just experience with the depot position abit and u will get the hand of it.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
December 10 2004 08:23 GMT
#31
why o why did u tell him?

it couldve been another free win against the evil terran empire!
A firebat to your Zergling.
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
December 10 2004 09:08 GMT
#32
u can make it lingproof at 6 with an academy.. but thats maybe not a "real wall" anyway, but it could be good if you see a rush coming and havent started your second depot yet.
GulleFjuN@Europe
ProudCappi
Profile Joined October 2004
United States366 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-10 12:46:18
December 10 2004 12:45 GMT
#33
On December 10 2004 17:23 SpuniasauR wrote:
why o why did u tell him?

it couldve been another free win against the evil terran empire!


lol

Well, I asked because I saw zeals coming up my ramp, and I thought to myself "yes, finally something besides a goon rush". And then they got through
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evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
December 11 2004 04:49 GMT
#34
Why dont you just scv/float with rine? its alot safer if you dont know how to wall properly.
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Alpha
Profile Joined September 2004
France1495 Posts
December 11 2004 09:04 GMT
#35
well..... yeah i think that's better but u need to line pretty well ur scv, other way ur death
The psi bolts enlighten me.
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