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Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
July 26 2004 04:11 GMT
#41
I haven't any of what's been posted but this is what i have to say! :O

1) you can't play mineral only nats like you can LT. FAR TOO MANY players have played so much LT that, when faced with another map, they try to make their LT strategies work on those maps. So the first step is to try to change your playing style completely for different maps. It is my firm beleif that, if you know how to play a different kind of map correctly, it can be a very balanced game

2) i think a map like nostalgia has more of a time based advantage. For example, in an early game TvZ, the terran has the advantage (assuming he has good micro) with a strong medic marine contain. The zerg is limited to 1 gas for lurkers, which the terran can micro against. Although the terran will eventually have to run away, the delay allows the terran to get up his own expo and a few tanks etc. Once the zerg breaks his front and gets more geysers, then the zerg gets back to even ground. They key at this point is for the terran to use his early game advantage to keep the game even. Its far too easy for the terran to just let the zerg expo across the whole map to where its 4 geysers vs 1 geyser.

I recommend the sync vs siva game on nostalgia. Kinda shows how the balance changes from early game (sync uses M&M to cover middle of map) to middle and late game (siva trying to expand to many gas naturals and sync continuing to kill them off)

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Netherlands4523 Posts
July 26 2004 04:15 GMT
#42
Nostalgia is impossible to win on if Terran makes no mistake. 1-0 Upgrade 4 scvs wandering on map to scout for geysers and micro'ing their soon to be 1-1 marines vs 1h lurker while macro'ing of an expo is o_O!!!
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Profile Joined April 2004
United States2814 Posts
July 26 2004 04:58 GMT
#43
there's only one answer to PvZ on nostalgia.. wwrd? let's wait and see what Reach does vs julyzerg when everything is on the line and he's had time to practice :O
4.Aiur
Profile Joined October 2002
United States995 Posts
July 26 2004 05:12 GMT
#44
On July 26 2004 13:58 NonY wrote:
there's only one answer to PvZ on nostalgia.. wwrd? let's wait and see what Reach does vs julyzerg when everything is on the line and he's had time to practice :O
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Profile Joined July 2004
United States202 Posts
July 27 2004 01:33 GMT
#45
On July 26 2004 14:12 4.Aiur wrote:
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On July 26 2004 13:58 NonY wrote:
there's only one answer to PvZ on nostalgia.. wwrd? let's wait and see what Reach does vs julyzerg when everything is on the line and he's had time to practice :O
IN REACH WE TRUST!


gogo july :p

so its better for Z in zvp but its kinda better for t in zvt?
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Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden1019 Posts
July 27 2004 01:47 GMT
#46
On July 25 2004 18:49 PheeRed.User wrote:
? Protoss definitely beneifts the most from min only maybe not in early parts of game but protoss really doesent need alot of gas for any matchup than pvz and zeals are your main unit in pvz

Even if I play T I know that is wrong, you need storm in PvZ it is a must!!! You can noway play a long PvZ without the use of storm. And now you say "Overun the zerg with zlots" well that wont work since hes making lurkers and expoing. Or are you gonna get zlot speed and then observer? Well, then he has the map already :p
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Netherlands13554 Posts
July 27 2004 05:45 GMT
#47
On July 27 2004 10:33 t3h.sWaRm wrote:
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On July 26 2004 14:12 4.Aiur wrote:
On July 26 2004 13:58 NonY wrote:
there's only one answer to PvZ on nostalgia.. wwrd? let's wait and see what Reach does vs julyzerg when everything is on the line and he's had time to practice :O
IN REACH WE TRUST!


gogo july :p

so its better for Z in zvp but its kinda better for t in zvt?


It all depends on style and adaptation abilities.

Nostalgia is my favourite map
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Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
July 27 2004 06:21 GMT
#48
i've always thought nostalgia was great for zerg as long as he could break out. i've never seen terran come up with any counter for defiler on nostalgia, they just can't get enough tanks, upgrades, OR vessels.
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
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