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BbBoS
United Kingdom25 Posts
I have played a few games on SC2, but I have seen a lot of VODs of SC1 and BW looks a lot more intresting, and I would like to give it a go. I was wondering if there are any D/D- players on Iccup I can practice with so I can get better, and also any beginner Terran stratergys because I only know about Marine, Medic Thanks  | ||
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Firien
Poland115 Posts
 first you will most probably be doing mostly some wariation of 1 rax fast expansion vs every race (with factories and tanks for tvp and tvt, and 1rax fe with bio units vs zerg) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Terran_Strategy its now your new bible :D I highly recomend you day9 podcasts for brood war http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89581 also check out liquipedia frequently. If you encounter some bigger problem while playing, or want just to know what went wrong in a game you lost, make a post here and we will try to help  other than that there are some day9 vids that were made for sc2 but apply to bw too, namely two last dailies with low level rep analyzys, and #132 (mental checklist) that are really really worth watching no matter what rts you play. mind you; if you will be playing on iccup, be prepared for losses, and by losses i mean a fuckton of losses to about everybody from every strat. Try to have a good mindset while you play, dont expect too much when you start | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
Liquipedia is a great place to start, if you still get raped over at iCCup, don't worry, happens to the best of us. StarCraft has a very steep learning curve, don't lose hope because it will be rewarding if you persevere. It is good to get a practice partners (there are a good number of them over here) but once you play with random people, prepare to get raped. StarCraft BW is fun to watch but it's very hard to play. | ||
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Usurper
Macedonia283 Posts
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
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iamrawr
Canada8 Posts
 http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/iamrawr.html | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On August 13 2010 11:57 iamrawr wrote: Hi, welcome to bw :D. I'll pratice with ya if you want to, just add me. Im only d level http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/iamrawr.html Hey , want to game? I'm in channel "guru" | ||
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
I'm a D- protoss. | ||
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KoS-Templar
United States76 Posts
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iamrawr
Canada8 Posts
maybe another day, don't plan on playing starcraft tonight | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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micro7295
United States68 Posts
anyway there was no way i was ready for multiplayer. well i looked over those lil uh starcraft strategy guides that came with the game and i read em over and over til i knew everything lolz i had an appreciation for starcraft at that point so i tried a custom game 1v1 against a cpu. i was zerg, the bot was terran. and u wouldnt believe it. i was crushing him right? he set up 2 bunkers near his base and i think, 2 siege tanks behind em so i nailed em with spawn broodlings and rushed in my zerglings and hydralisks. unfortunately i was new to the concept of MICROING lol so i didnt do very good and i ended up destroying a bunker but accidentally made dumb decisions like pile 8 zerglings on 1 marine (FAIL) and i had to retreat my hydralisks. after that lil episode he rebuilt the bunker and got another tank and he pushed 1 of my expansions (successfuly my leftover hydras were no match for marines and tanks without good micro skills) and i felt like i lost when he set up defenses around that base. so i was like ah dang it did i just lose to a bot? so i used map reveal cheat cuz i was like, i lost anyways and i looked at his main and it was dry bones without defenses i was like omg i shouldve made a drop!! lmao that was so fail for me. he didnt have a starport, see...it was a noob cpu and i didnt know what 2 expect.anyway thats my lil experience however pathetic it may have been (i assure u im much better naow lol) oh yeah i went on multiplayer at some point and i was like, cool map triggers! lol. starcraft has some crazy cool maps on multi. i remember seeing this 1 map where there were tons of custom stuff like, CC was 9999 hp and renamed to gate and the player settings was like 6 guardians of heaven and 1 player was on team hell or something and i watched the game for a bit. it rolled like, the guardians try 2 stop the hell push (which was zerg. figures) with special buildings and units etc and at some point 1 dude said gate to c2 or something i had no idea what that meant xD it was cool though. i believe hell ended up losing. im not sure. 1 of the coolest maps ive seen so far. i have no idea if this still exists though | ||
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ZavikZyke
United States382 Posts
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Biff The Understudy
France7902 Posts
They are the best terran tutorial you will find. Just listen to them and copy what he does and says. One advice: play agressive. Don't play stupid macro game cuz you won't learn anything until your mechanics are amazing. Don't hesitate to go for old school 2 rax vs zerg, and exercise to 3rd base timing push in TvP. | ||
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BbBoS
United Kingdom25 Posts
I made this before I went to bed, now I've woken up I will be playing on Iccup in 10 - 20 minutes or so under the name BbBoS Tell me if any of you guys are on and if so what lobby your in :D I will also have a look at those quides too in a sec ^^ | ||
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pandaBee
United States251 Posts
a little info about me though... i've been playing BW for just a little more than a month. Started sometime this summer I play casually for the most part... 2 games a day perhaps but playing it for the 5 weeks that i did those games add up so now i have around ~ 210 games under my belt my record atm is i think .... 70:140 ish win:loss so maybe i'd be too good for you seeing that i am more experienced.. haha ^^;; but if you still want to play (since most people on iccup have played 2 years +) then sure. add me. naughtynights is my ign see you online | ||
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BbBoS
United Kingdom25 Posts
Idc if I win or loss, just nice to play Will be on later today though, busy atm | ||
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
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seRapH
United States9763 Posts
On August 13 2010 22:26 NIIINO wrote: Hey im new in BW but also in old battle net, where i can see my full name and how to join to game ? and also my hotkeys ctrl+1-9 doesnt work, the name you sign up with is your full name. nothing's hidden. to join games just hit join game, unless it has a password in which case you'll have to manually input the game name and password. hotkeys... they should work, 1-0, i can't imagine why they wouldnt... good luck playing! also if anyone's reading this i'm still looking for a D/D+ zerg to grind about a million PvZs with because i suck major ass at that mu | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
On August 13 2010 22:26 NIIINO wrote: Hey im new in BW but also in old battle net, where i can see my full name and how to join to game ? and also my hotkeys ctrl+1-9 doesnt work, Sounds like it would be impossible to play without hotkeys, where are you from? What keyboard type to you have (language). | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
#2: You should see 'How to improve' by ver, it is stickied right in this BW strategy forum. | ||
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BbBoS
United Kingdom25 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6638 Posts
On August 13 2010 23:49 BbBoS wrote: also how do I upload replays :s http://repdepot.net/ is your best choice. | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
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BbBoS
United Kingdom25 Posts
?http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=37592 Ty for link | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
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JMave
Singapore1804 Posts
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micro7295
United States68 Posts
also keep ur hotkeys clean. this is important | ||
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micro7295
United States68 Posts
oh yeah and hotkey ur comsat as terran. itll help against any race (and extra energy goes to scouting enemy bases, u can do this more often than u think so keep it constant) like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran | ||
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qoma
United States34 Posts
On August 15 2010 04:55 micro7295 wrote: oh dude the biggest mistake new players tend 2 do is they dont make enough units. this is absolutely huge. trust me as terran, ur eco will give u more than enough to make plenty of units and buildings, just make sure u expand and know how 2 push with mechs and dont forget 2 keep adding units 2 it oh yeah and hotkey ur comsat as terran. itll help against any race (and extra energy goes to scouting enemy bases, u can do this more often than u think so keep it constant) like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran omg I can't tell you how many times i've done this, i have (what i think) is enough units to do some damage and i end up getting run over by an army 3 times the size of mine. I'm trying to work on it. GL with practicing, if you want to practice (I'm no where near good though) just pm me :D | ||
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Yotta
United States270 Posts
On August 15 2010 04:55 micro7295 wrote: I'd agree if your goal is to start winning as quickly as possible.like ive said b4 in other threads, i simply dont recommend starting out as terran If you want to get good at terran as quickly as possible, nothing beats playing and studying terran. | ||
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Roflhaxx
Korea (South)1244 Posts
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trulla
Chile303 Posts
On August 13 2010 09:47 BbBoS wrote: Hello, I have played a few games on SC2, but I have seen a lot of VODs of SC1 and BW looks a lot more intresting, and I would like to give it a go. I was wondering if there are any D/D- players on Iccup I can practice with so I can get better, and also any beginner Terran stratergys because I only know about Marine, Medic Thanks i'm C- terran and i'd play with u for fun and coaching if you like... My iCCup accounts are trulla and cW-]trulla Have fun playing BW. | ||
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micro7295
United States68 Posts
On August 15 2010 06:29 qoma wrote: omg I can't tell you how many times i've done this, i have (what i think) is enough units to do some damage and i end up getting run over by an army 3 times the size of mine. I'm trying to work on it. GL with practicing, if you want to practice (I'm no where near good though) just pm me :D lolol yeah, as a zerg player, what ud think is enough, like 1 or 2 groups of 12, actually matches up badly against other races with 1-2 12 groups. aside from this little detail, ppl get crushed when vsing their own race because their units is totally inadequate. i will be fighting a zerg player with like what, 10 hydras at his base and a few zerglings and nothing else and i scout him and im like, this would be GG. and theyre like wat? and i throw down my hammer and micro his ass and im left with like 20 hydras and a buttload of zerglings and theyre like oh. GG. of course this no longer happens in ladder for me see what happens is that new players dont scout. this is a big OOPS. players should always be scouting. second is that because of this. theyre lulled into a false sense of security and theyre flowing with money by now so theyre like wheeee im rich! and another mistake would be they start to tech RANDOMLY like ill be charging in there with my hydra push and theyll have techy stuff like queens nest and spire and hydra den and ONE evo chamber and pool and theyll be getting hive already and therell be like 8 base defenses like 5 sunkens and 3 spores and ill be like WTF NOOB where the hell r ur units? did u bury all of em and they died by suffocation? WTH and theyll be like...damn u haxor...oh and theyll have only 1 hatchery. the one being upgraded into a hive. it is...extremely sad, to see a zerg player in such a bad condition. | ||
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Magus
Canada450 Posts
On August 15 2010 10:52 micro7295 wrote: lolol yeah, as a zerg player, what ud think is enough, like 1 or 2 groups of 12, actually matches up badly against other races with 1-2 12 groups. aside from this little detail, ppl get crushed when vsing their own race because their units is totally inadequate. i will be fighting a zerg player with like what, 10 hydras at his base and a few zerglings and nothing else and i scout him and im like, this would be GG. and theyre like wat? and i throw down my hammer and micro his ass and im left with like 20 hydras and a buttload of zerglings and theyre like oh. GG. of course this no longer happens in ladder for me see what happens is that new players dont scout. this is a big OOPS. players should always be scouting. second is that because of this. theyre lulled into a false sense of security and theyre flowing with money by now so theyre like wheeee im rich! and another mistake would be they start to tech RANDOMLY like ill be charging in there with my hydra push and theyll have techy stuff like queens nest and spire and hydra den and ONE evo chamber and pool and theyll be getting hive already and therell be like 8 base defenses like 5 sunkens and 3 spores and ill be like WTF NOOB where the hell r ur units? did u bury all of em and they died by suffocation? WTH and theyll be like...damn u haxor...oh and theyll have only 1 hatchery. the one being upgraded into a hive. it is...extremely sad, to see a zerg player in such a bad condition. You're making Hydras in ZvZ? Second, you're letting them live until Hive? Edit: Them meaning, the opponents. | ||
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micro7295
United States68 Posts
sometimes ill make lots of hydras just because im used to using hydras (i know hydras arent very good for a mid game ZvZ) theyre so nice to micro. not weak like marines yet not big like dragoons i know theres ppl who will agree with me on that | ||
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meathook
1289 Posts
On August 13 2010 10:20 SilverSkyLark wrote: Welcome to where real men play. QFE It's great to see new ppl undertaking BW in lieu of the unfaithful sequel. As mentioned previously, being new in BW can be frustrating, but once you overcome the growing pains, it becomes extremely rewarding. Just remember to play more games even if you lose. Watch pro replays and vods, and try to adhere to their ways. If you lose a game and don't know why, watch the replay and pay attention to your opponent. Never forget to scout! I wish you luck and fun. | ||
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sushi.oi.zz
Hong Kong72 Posts
On August 13 2010 14:12 ZavikZyke wrote: Welcome to the best RTS game man has ever created. As a fellow Terran, I will warn you that Terran is the most mechanically demanding race. It will be frustarting at first, losing to mutas and 2 gate pressure builds but bear through that. Go onto liquidpedia and read he Terran strats. For build orders read Stylish's guide for Terrans here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=86770 this man is the best teacher for Terrans Finally, go have fun don't get too mad when you lose and simply enjoy yourself. Good luck and have fun :D i think it's actually zerg. ._. Well to play zerg well at least. to play mech, all you gotta do is sit there, unless you're crawling/pushing. but i may be wrong | ||
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Hautamaki
Canada1311 Posts
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
On August 16 2010 02:53 Hautamaki wrote: I think zerg requires a better ability to read and adapt to your opponent with perfect timing of units/drones. I think terran requires a higher effective apm. I could be wrong as a toss player but that's always been my impression. Yep that's about right, zerg needs good game sense as in when to make drones and when to make units etc. Terran is the most mechanically demanding race. | ||
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micro7295
United States68 Posts
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BbBoS
United Kingdom25 Posts
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meathook
1289 Posts
On August 16 2010 10:20 BbBoS wrote: Out of curiousity is there a channel on ICCup where people from TL.net hang out at, because I think that would be good ?Op IRC | ||
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oskuboi
Finland72 Posts
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WhoNeedsMacro
Canada43 Posts
Add me too if you want some help o_o low D+ zerg I think... nAn.illusion | ||
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micro7295
United States68 Posts
On August 18 2010 04:53 WhoNeedsMacro wrote: LOL OSKUBOI Add me too if you want some help o_o low D+ zerg I think... nAn.illusion funny that ur username would be who needs macro when u say ur a D zerg player | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
for fun, i recommend playing 3v3 bgh just to get the basic idea of the game (what units work, how to keep producing stuff, right unit composition, how to attack/micro) 1v1 with the friend at your level so its back and forth learning the standard maps like fighting spirit. i dunno, i hope you enjoy learning bw. i believe it is a much better game than sc2 if you stand the old school graphics | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On August 16 2010 05:42 micro7295 wrote: against experienced players both zerg or protoss, its harder than u think to mech turtle as terran It's pretty damn easy to mech turtle. It's hard to win by mech turtling, because your opponent will take a lot of bases and try to deny your third. To actually win through turtling, you have to either turtle into a timing attack (usually this will fail unless the opponent makes a big mistake or you perform some degree of harassment to delay the opponent so they won't be ready for your attack) or you have to split the map. Neither of these is easy on a reasonable map. | ||
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gamecrazy
United States421 Posts
I'm D level. I can't say more about build orders than what liquipedia and stylish already have up for terran bo's. | ||
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Meepman
Canada610 Posts
I'm a D level zerg and I was just going to start getting back into bw. PM me if you wanna play some games : ) | ||
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commiboi
United States74 Posts
. Goodluck with broodwar and nice to see someone who prefers broodwar. | ||
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jackofclubs81
United States196 Posts
)I'm 1100(right on the border between d and d-). pm me if ur interested in playing, I play protoss btw. | ||
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LifeLine
Canada1 Post
ID: (Life]Line | ||
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PeT[uK]
United States412 Posts
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BbBoS
United Kingdom25 Posts
Cause it would be easier to find you guys Also not played BW at all because I been busy, but I got time for some games now for anyone that wants to play | ||
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
what channel are you planning on playing at- and what is your game name? and yes TL does have a vent channel- however it is not always strictly brood war, you can find it on the bottom of the web page. If you are on iccup server go to channel 'op irc' and that is where a lot of TL players hang out | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
I want to play Toss. ID: ForAiur93. Hope someone on here wants to play. Oh, and I can't host because I don't have my port forwarded. | ||
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:43 TheAngelofDeath wrote: I'm in the same boat as the OP. I always love watching BW, but I am yet to sit down and really play it. I just don't find SC2 as fun. I am yet to play on Iccup, and could really use a mentor/trainer or partner to learn with. I want to play Toss. ID: ForAiur93. Hope someone on here wants to play. Oh, and I can't host because I don't have my port forwarded.what server are you on right now? i can play a few games if you like | ||
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:44 Ramiel wrote: what server are you on right now? i can play a few games if you like Well since I just started Iccup they just put me in the basic D ladder. So I'm there. Edit: Had to log off, will be back later. | ||
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
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Vaporum
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ID: Vaporum | ||
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Voidrax
Malaysia2 Posts
ID: Voidrax | ||
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
you can add me but im a really pvt noob. stats says 4-17 LOL. However i still think i can defeat you, but also remember that im really good at giving advices to new comers. So i think after some games you can beat me. Meet me at iccup trainning channel. | ||
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ironsven
Croatia1 Post
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Superterran123
United States2 Posts
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qzlsecret
Mexico126 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6638 Posts
On May 23 2011 20:14 SeCReTT wrote: can anyone help me too ? What specifically are you after? Basic introduction to the game? Basic build orders? How/where to watch progames/vods? What race do you play? Have you tried iccup? | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
Edit: Fuck, why are there so few Commas in the English language. I like german better, where there are over 9000 Commas in one sentence. | ||
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
On May 23 2011 20:14 SeCReTT wrote: can anyone help me too ? Haha, nice bump! Made me pm someone about helping him in BW without realising the date. I guess, for that short sentence, its better bump.... Yeah, easiest way to meet people is going to op Teamliquid. | ||
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ChinaGreenTea
Netherlands49 Posts
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qzlsecret
Mexico126 Posts
What specifically are you after? Basic introduction to the game? Basic build orders? How/where to watch progames/vods? What race do you play? Have you tried iccup? i tried iccup yes and all what you ask for i need help with i think protoss will be my race not shure im D of course i have skype vent and TS so anyone up to help me out and have fun thank you ^^ | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6638 Posts
On May 24 2011 13:25 SeCReTT wrote: hhihihi sorry i tried iccup yes and all what you ask for i need help with i think protoss will be my race not shure im D of course i have skype vent and TS so anyone up to help me out and have fun thank you ^^ Well to watch progames you want the Small Vod Thread : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875 Have you looked at Liquipedia? Here is the Protoss section: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Protoss_Strategy There's a lot of information about build orders etc. on there so take a good look ^^ Also go to op teamliquid on iccup and you should find someone who will play some practice games with you or you can try #teamliquidbw on IRC (quakenet). Other than that search around the forum, especially the BW General section as there are a lot of threads from new players asking advice. | ||
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qzlsecret
Mexico126 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3392 Posts
I m DA]Baal on iccup, you can also PM me here on TL if you want to schedule a meeting (unemployed so enough freetime ^^) | ||
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qzlsecret
Mexico126 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On May 25 2011 11:33 SeCReTT wrote: okay man ill pm Try playing on USEast instead of iCCup if you're new. The skill level is considerably lower, it's pretty chill, and there are lots more team games. Also, if you just hop in some clan, you can get instant practice partners/coaches! | ||
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Ravencruiser
Canada519 Posts
On May 27 2011 13:52 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Try playing on USEast instead of iCCup if you're new. The skill level is considerably lower, it's pretty chill, and there are lots more team games. Also, if you just hop in some clan, you can get instant practice partners/coaches! If you do decide to play on east, for the love of SCIENCE get Bwdetector (Anti-hack). Google it. I am not exaggerating in the least when I say 75% of bnet kids hack. Seriously, probably even higher. It's pretty much safe to assume hack when you join pub games. Even then, you'll still face kids who only maphack, which is 100% undetectable. Oh the joy of bnet. | ||
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YejinYejin
United States1053 Posts
On May 28 2011 12:33 Ravencruiser wrote: If you do decide to play on east, for the love of SCIENCE get Bwdetector (Anti-hack). Google it. I am not exaggerating in the least when I say 75% of bnet kids hack. Seriously, probably even higher. It's pretty much safe to assume hack when you join pub games. Even then, you'll still face kids who only maphack, which is 100% undetectable. Oh the joy of bnet. There's a new hack going around where a ghost can launch a nuke and hit anywhere on the map. I saw some scrubs on iCCup doing this, where they both play Terran, turtle like mad (4 bunkers all behind a wall of supply depots with tanks and turrets everywhere) and then they just tech to nuke. Then they launch one with a ghost from inside their main, and they can target an opponent's main or something. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
On May 28 2011 13:35 DTK-m2 wrote: There's a new hack going around where a ghost can launch a nuke and hit anywhere on the map. I saw some scrubs on iCCup doing this, where they both play Terran, turtle like mad (4 bunkers all behind a wall of supply depots with tanks and turrets everywhere) and then they just tech to nuke. Then they launch one with a ghost from inside their main, and they can target an opponent's main or something. Lol, and I thought only my clan mate was hacked by this recently. Was really funny and infuriating to see that kind of hack. Luckily, that player has been banned. He manage to get to C rank by doing this. Is maphack really undetectable? I thought iCCup antihack blocks it? | ||
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Funnytoss
Taiwan1471 Posts
On May 31 2011 21:57 Black[CAT] wrote: Lol, and I thought only my clan mate was hacked by this recently. Was really funny and infuriating to see that kind of hack. Luckily, that player has been banned. He manage to get to C rank by doing this. Is maphack really undetectable? I thought iCCup antihack blocks it? It's still possible to play games on iCCup without antihack... I do it sometimes if I'm desperate for a game, or if the guy says he's on a Mac, and I take him at his word. | ||
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