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Apoptosis United States78 Posts March 10 2004 08:30 GMT #1 I notice that many pros, whether for the sake of simplicity or for defensive purposes, build thier tech structures closely together. However, many people seem to think that it is best to keep your tech buildings seperate, so a scouting unit or comsat especially can't discover all of your purposes and plans immediatly with a single scan. Assuming I am not going for a DT rush, reaver drop, etc, how should my tech structures be placed? Keeping them close together is excellent for defending that valuable tech, but anti-recon also serves a strong purpose.

Dang-it United States557 Posts March 10 2004 08:42 GMT #2 build your tech out of your base some people do that or you can just build secretly in your corner and if your going to drop with reaver and he sees that you made that drop ship maker thingy(yea i forgot the name ^^ then just build the reaver supply building thingy in another corner or somewhere on map

Roman United States2595 Posts March 10 2004 08:45 GMT #3 well personally its best to have it all together for time purposes. If you have nothing to hide (like DT or reaver), doesnt really matter if they see it.

z7-TranCe Canada3158 Posts March 10 2004 08:50 GMT #4 I've always placed my spread apart,i rarely place 2 pylons beside each other and most of the time this has never been a problem. I think its better then clumping everything together because as you said,recon reasons,as well as the vision it offers you,that pylon on the edge of your base could spot a dropship passing by and save you 20 probes,stuff like that. Another thing about build placement is how easily you can get to and from your choke,if your buildings are clumped in the path then you run the risk of having your probes getting caught in them (yes this does happen),also your units going in to your main should be able to freely go to the nexus without having to lose time running around buildings. There's also the splash aspect,a group of buildings will go down alot faster to spash type units,but this is all minor stuff. Its mostly a question of style,Rekrul will build his gateways in a big line,i like to build mine spaced out more,game deciding?hardly,i could rape him with my gateways built in the middle of the map. None of this,however,applies to PvZ,in this matchup you'll want to clump and make sure your cannons cover as much as possible.There's nothing worse then having 6 muta's show up and kill your templar tech because its 'spread out'. But basically these are all very small things,its a matter of style.Unless your playing professionally,just build the way you think is cool.

Dang-it United States557 Posts March 10 2004 08:56 GMT #5 so thats what i do wrong in tvz when they go muta O_O haha

FreeZEternal Korea (South)3396 Posts March 10 2004 23:09 GMT #6 I like to build all my gates in a big line and all my techs behind my gateways+_+..specially vs terran... but vs zerg..everything changes

x[ReaPeR]x United States3447 Posts March 11 2004 04:05 GMT #7 In that dude's guide, he said to clump them. For instance. If you build a Stargate one place and a Fleet Beacon in another, then you have doulbe the chances of your Carrier tech being scanned.

Apoptosis United States78 Posts March 11 2004 08:43 GMT #8 He said to clump things like the citadel + temaplar archives, fleet beacon + gate so that you dont have double the chance of being discovered. However, most tech he recommended to seperate so it's not detected by one scan.

Dang-it United States557 Posts March 11 2004 10:00 GMT #9 he said only clump when playing zerg

STIMEY d okgm fish Canada6140 Posts March 11 2004 14:36 GMT #10 fucking mutas ;O it dependz on matchup (first, how they usually scout you, how they react, what you want etc; second, not getting screwed by likely attacks, e.g. mutas killing your archives)

z7-TranCe Canada3158 Posts March 11 2004 17:13 GMT #11 FreeSoul said it,just remember to put your hidden stuff out of the path of drops and out of the usual scan area ;p

Dang-it United States557 Posts March 12 2004 08:42 GMT #12 i hate 8 vs 6 on lt and terran uses that little area where he can cliff your nexus or something when he like somehow has tiem to do so or you let him when u dont know it ><

Klogon MURICA15980 Posts March 12 2004 10:54 GMT #13 On March 11 2004 19:00 Dang-it wrote: he said only clump when playing zerg Not always. Some people build spire in the expansion while building a den at main. But usually you want your tech in a concentrated area.

StaSiS United States147 Posts March 12 2004 12:14 GMT #14 No... playing against Zerg, not as Zerg

SpuniasauR Australia1500 Posts March 14 2004 14:27 GMT #15 which guide are u referring to reaper??? cuz draeger said in his guide that having ur shit together is easier to find and upgrade etc and wont waste u time in midgame when ur trying to find where u ditched ur friggin observatory! and that makes sense, right? i like keeping the tech by the building that uses it, so i know when im gettin obs that observatory or support bay is there to upgrade with. also i know to rebuild straight away in case it goes down. and of course hide tech u dont want him to see edit- referring to ur first post freesoul, do pros have time to frig about finding their tech?? they do hide when they cheese, but otherwise they only got a fraction of a second to macro/upgrade/ etc when they look back home, cuz they must micro. i think thats why reachs' pylon placement sux hard ballz. he rushes a pylon cuz he spends 99% of time microing!!

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