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Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
March 07 2004 12:46 GMT
#1
I was wondering what the Dt/Sair build was, I never seem too have the right timing.

Is it stargate first, or citadel?

I'm lost , help me out! !
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
March 07 2004 13:01 GMT
#2
stargate
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 07 2004 20:51 GMT
#3
kekeke...stargate +_+;;;
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-07 22:53:55
March 07 2004 22:51 GMT
#4
Very intelligent and deep thought provoking post as usual FreeZ ;p

Ryan you're best bet is to start off with an 7/8 pylon gate and zealot harass drones to keep his zerglings occupied in his base,run around and try to take as little shots as possible from zerglings while picking off drones.

Thats the easy part,now while your doing this,keep building probes and teching as you can afford it,try to keep constant zealot from that 1 gate and harass wherever you can.The most important thing to do is keep an eye on his eggs,i know it sounds strange but you really have to pay attention to his zergling count,if he knows you're 1 gate and continues building zerglings,make a forge and a battery asap,and get ready to hold onto your ramp for dear life.

Even if he doesn't know you're 1 gate,you still have to be very mindful to zerglings,as they are the most lethal unit to any protoss player.

So eventually you'll lose your zealots,picked off a few drones,now by the time you lose your zealots you should have a cybernetics core done or almost done,get sair first,depending on your zealot count(3-4 is a good number) you can build a dragoon + stargate,if you have 2-3 zealots then skip the dragoon,because as i said,zerglings are your worst enemy.

With your corsair,go straight to his base and check his hatcheries to know his strategy,then pick off overlords accordingly.Later you can go back and get the ones around your base/cliff.Meanwhile of course teching to dt's.

From there its up to you ace,but its a solid start build i've used with success many times against good zergs.

There is another more skilled build order to this smuft taught me,but its kind of insane,just try this for now ;p
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 07 2004 22:56 GMT
#5
On March 08 2004 07:51 TranCe wrote:
Very intelligent and deep thought provoking post as usual FreeZ ;p

Ryan you're best bet is to start off with an 7/8 pylon gate and zealot harass drones to keep his zerglings occupied in his base,run around and try to take as little shots as possible from zerglings while picking off drones.

Thats the easy part,now while your doing this,keep building probes and teching as you can afford it,try to keep constant zealot from that 1 gate and harass wherever you can.The most important thing to do is keep an eye on his eggs,i know it sounds strange but you really have to pay attention to his zergling count,if he knows you're 1 gate and continues building zerglings,make a forge and a battery asap,and get ready to hold onto your ramp for dear life.

Even if he doesn't know you're 1 gate,you still have to be very mindful to zerglings,as they are the most lethal unit to any protoss player.

So eventually you'll lose your zealots,picked off a few drones,now by the time you lose your zealots you should have a cybernetics core done or almost done,get sair first,depending on your zealot count(3-4 is a good number) you can build a dragoon + stargate,if you have 2-3 zealots then skip the dragoon,because as i said,zerglings are your worst enemy.

With your corsair,go straight to his base and check his hatcheries to know his strategy,then pick off overlords accordingly.Later you can go back and get the ones around your base/cliff.Meanwhile of course teching to dt's.

From there its up to you ace,but its a solid start build i've used with success many times against good zergs.

There is another more skilled build order to this smuft taught me,but its kind of insane,just try this for now ;p

But I still love you
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-07 23:04:54
March 07 2004 23:03 GMT
#6
There is a variance to Trance build too. You start with the same 7/8 pylon and harass with some zealots. You do all what trance told you and then instead of switching to dk you can sometime go to a reaver drop if you see he's going lurks, of course while exp. Try to get as much drones as possible and don't lose your reaver cuz you will need it to break his lurk containment.
Bill and Bill
Profile Joined March 2004
United States167 Posts
March 08 2004 00:09 GMT
#7
Good post, Lord of Trance.
The Average Adult Has One Testicle.
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
March 08 2004 00:52 GMT
#8
make sure to get storm and 3 or so cannons with the expo because he will surely go hydras :O
i know it sounds obvious but i must have lost so many games forgetting storm :D
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
March 08 2004 07:17 GMT
#9
Trance tich us the insane build!
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Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
March 08 2004 08:11 GMT
#10
the whole point of the build is to hold him off long enough untill your expo and defense around it is set up. So once your dts are out and you are safe from any threat (make sure ovies around your base are dead), expo and defend vs his tech (you should know it a long time ago).
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 08 2004 08:47 GMT
#11
On March 08 2004 09:09 Bill and Bill wrote:
Good post, Lord of Trance.

Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
March 08 2004 09:13 GMT
#12
Thanks a million trance, would you be up for another best of 5? :D
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
AutumnLight
Profile Joined July 2003
Ukraine2488 Posts
March 08 2004 09:35 GMT
#13
another 3-0 ryan,I don't think he has the time
Pray for War.
Ryan307 :)
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States1289 Posts
March 08 2004 11:43 GMT
#14
T_T
Dont let the action of factual things fracture your casual swing
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 08 2004 20:03 GMT
#15
Ryan, I can do a best of 5 with you
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
March 10 2004 08:32 GMT
#16
Best of 5 with FreeZ,he's sexier then me anyway [=

Smuft's build he showed me was something like,

7 pylon->8 gate->zealot->gas->zealot->cybernetics core->2nd pylon

run zealots around as much as you can and don't die to mass lings,and you're in a fine position for a reaver drop ;p

Not dying to lings is the thing.since if he decides to 3 hatch ling then you're basically dead,but if he makes drones then he's basically dead.
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
March 10 2004 08:32 GMT
#17
hence the insanity. ;p
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
March 10 2004 08:48 GMT
#18
my favorite semi-gamble is to mass ranged goons with some lot backup vs zerg. Especially if it comes by suprise (you kill ovvi with first goon, then get range and add 2 more gates) it can really by effective. Good micro + a couple zlots can rape pretty much anything that comes your way. Just remember to attack quick enough not to be raped by mass muta and dont be afraid of sunks. It is a good noskill strategy.
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
March 10 2004 08:58 GMT
#19
Yea it is,Rush)_Season- beat me with it once,it was pretty sad.I did a typical 3 hatch zerg expansion to lurker and when i had 4 sunks and 4 eggs he shows up with like 15 dragoons and 2 zealots.

i don't condone this strat though,its annoying as hell and roman you're gay for bringing it up. ;]
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
March 10 2004 09:36 GMT
#20
lol
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