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(I) tank mode rush with scvs

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RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
January 11 2010 01:44 GMT
#1
I decided to mix things up while on ICCUP and started playing TvP (I never play as T) I played 5 games using the same strategy and to my surprise I never lost a game. The build I used was 2 fac tanks skipping any research, when the 3rd tank was produced I'd pull 10 or so scvs and attack his base.

Here are the games I played in order:

Andromeda Cross positions - 1gate range robo gate

Heartbreak ridge - 4 gate

Fighting spirit Cross positions - 1 gate expo

Python Close positions - 2 gate expo

Lost temple Cross positions - 1 gate expo

I looked on Liquipedua and the closest thing to this is the joyO rush. Is this a viable strategy past D rank? Because it sure is fun to do.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
January 11 2010 01:54 GMT
#2
DT rush destroys it
2 gate goon destroys it.
12 nexus destroys it

It's still viable either way yes. Usually I thought you ended up getting siege mode eventually but I could be wrong. You should build some marines though as well and just cut down on the numbers of scvs brought a little bit I think..?

Not positive on this advice.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 11 2010 01:54 GMT
#3
I remember a similar thread awhile ago, and the general consensus was it wasn't viable against DTs or reavers, but was otherwise decent.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
January 11 2010 01:55 GMT
#4
heartbreak ridge game 4 gate??
ils
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RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
January 11 2010 02:06 GMT
#5
I just played vs DT and i got destroyed
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
January 11 2010 02:10 GMT
#6
if you add marines its similar to a strong fd, i imagine.

you really should have lost the second game (that was the only one i watched, i admit)
and should have transitioned into vultures.

i can see that this could be destroyed by decent micro
boomer hands
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 11 2010 02:19 GMT
#7
cute build but it's auto lose vs a decent opponent and quite a few different build orders
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
January 11 2010 02:26 GMT
#8
LOL
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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
January 11 2010 02:27 GMT
#9
u really need vultures to kill toss tanks just to get goons dead
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24772 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 02:40:03
January 11 2010 02:39 GMT
#10
Try doing a Joyo a few times... you'll probably have the same success at lower levels if you can control it and choose the right maps to do it when not cross positioned.

2 fact tank is basically an all in heh
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Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
January 11 2010 02:42 GMT
#11
Personally I don't see how this build would get pwned harder by Dts than a regular FD
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_Air_
Profile Joined December 2008
United States146 Posts
January 11 2010 02:47 GMT
#12
lol?


Regular FD has mines which counter the DT. This build isnt even close to mines at all.


See the difference?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17741 Posts
January 11 2010 02:47 GMT
#13
On January 11 2010 11:42 Nub4ever wrote:
Personally I don't see how this build would get pwned harder by Dts than a regular FD

at least with a fd you have mines to buy time for turrets. Also you get a faster 2nd cc so even if you get damaged you can comeback better then if you did that build.
ils
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 11 2010 02:50 GMT
#14
Personally, I don't see why you'd skip on Vultures. Mines are so damaging pre-Observer (especially at the D-level where the opponent is much more likely to mismicro against them).
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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
January 11 2010 03:01 GMT
#15
who cares about how effective it is against the same old boring standard builds. Its about creativity and innovation, hes not gonna win a starleague with this, but this seems like a fun strategy for D players and with friends.

seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
January 11 2010 03:12 GMT
#16
On January 11 2010 12:01 dani_caliKorea wrote:
who cares about how effective it is against the same old boring standard builds. Its about creativity and innovation, hes not gonna win a starleague with this,

On January 11 2010 10:44 ViruX wrote:
Is this a viable strategy past D rank?

On January 11 2010 12:01 dani_caliKorea wrote:
but this seems like a fun strategy for D players and with friends.

On January 11 2010 10:44 ViruX wrote:
Because it sure is fun to do.
boomer hands
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 03:19:31
January 11 2010 03:19 GMT
#17
How can it be "similar to a Strong FD"? A strong FD only has 1 factory, and is still focused on getting your expand up...

Also, what the hell is 4 gate?
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 03:57:43
January 11 2010 03:56 GMT
#18
Agh, I lost to this build just last week, I went 1 gate expo >.<

There was nothing that I could do, but it is very cheesy(obviously) and like other cheeses, I wouldn't expect this to get you higher than C-. Definitely don't play the same person twice.

Also, what the hell is 4 gate?

It is a pretty all-in build for protoss in which he makes 4 gateways and then pure dragoons. There is no money to tech or expo because everything has to be spent on goons and pylons :/
_Air_
Profile Joined December 2008
United States146 Posts
January 11 2010 11:43 GMT
#19
How the fuck did u beat a protoss that went 4 gate?

That must be the worst protoss player...


No offense or anything but a '4 gate' build, although an awful build, should still roll any 2 fac attempts
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia962 Posts
January 11 2010 12:20 GMT
#20
2fact with 3tank, 7-8 marine, couple scv and mine researching with vulture rally once tanks moved out ispretty gay, pretty strong, pretty hopeless vs DTs or reaver in good hands.
Rolls 1gate nexus, 12nexus, micro dependant vs 2gate nexus.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
January 12 2010 05:07 GMT
#21
On January 11 2010 11:39 micronesia wrote:
Try doing a Joyo a few times... you'll probably have the same success at lower levels if you can control it and choose the right maps to do it when not cross positioned.

2 fact tank is basically an all in heh



I just learned the Joyo rush. Damn fun, except you need good micro. Is Joyo considered all in?
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love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
January 12 2010 06:45 GMT
#22
On January 11 2010 21:20 Soulforged wrote:
2fact with 3tank, 7-8 marine, couple scv and mine researching with vulture rally once tanks moved out ispretty gay, pretty strong, pretty hopeless vs DTs or reaver in good hands.
Rolls 1gate nexus, 12nexus, micro dependant vs 2gate nexus.

False. does not roll 12-nex.
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Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia962 Posts
January 12 2010 07:09 GMT
#23
On January 12 2010 15:45 love1another wrote:
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On January 11 2010 21:20 Soulforged wrote:
2fact with 3tank, 7-8 marine, couple scv and mine researching with vulture rally once tanks moved out ispretty gay, pretty strong, pretty hopeless vs DTs or reaver in good hands.
Rolls 1gate nexus, 12nexus, micro dependant vs 2gate nexus.

False. does not roll 12-nex.

So long as map's not the big one, of course. Especially does not on desti with its bridges.
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